Panos wrote:Another DNP Clarkson. Hmmm

He was spotted passing fries though a sliding window the other day

nycericanguy wrote:its crazy we had a better record last season WITHOUT Mitch and Shamet.

ask yourself where this team would be without Mitch? There's EASILY 5-6 games this season we dont win without him, we are probably literally a .500 team without Mitch. And Thibs had us 30-16.

and oh yea Brown is down to an 8 man rotation despite having much more depth this season, didn't take long. to me that tells me he's kind of panicking a bit.

The 8-man rotation tells me both yabusele and Clarkson were bust signings, so this is the same team as last year. I’d love to get a playable 9th man at the deadline and then ride out the season. Worry about the other stuff after the season.

martin wrote:Game was too hard to watch. My eyes hurt

I mean - I saw a stat that OG is 1st player this season to record a 7 turnover with 0 assist game.

This guy is just amazing - against Philly he looked great because he had clear lanes to the rim and was simply catching and dunking.

If he has to make a basketball play or a quick decision on the move - cross your fingers and say a prayer.

Add in Mikal who only makes a great pass when he guesses right - otherwise he's throwing stupid passes all over. Hart comes in and just starts turning the ball over left and right. Kat makes a nice 3 - so next time he tries a step-back off the dribble wing 3 while kicking his legs into the defenders groin. Follows that up with a drive to nowhere as he falls to the floor screaming. Also on 2 or 3 other drives Kat point blank hit the defender with his knee/elbow/hand.

This front line is just WHEW when it comes to dribbling/passing.

Throw in Deuce who if he's not letting a 3 fly is basically trying to get the ball out of his hands and back to Jalen as fast as possible.

Throw in Mitch who still can't dribble/pass. Throw in Yabu who can only do a dribble hand off on the perimeter.

Who else am I missing???

DLeethal wrote:We are back to the starting lineup being absolute garbage and now we are at the point where KAT is deemed unplayable down the stretch. Something has gotta give. I will not miss KAT and Mikal if we move on from these guys. Thanks for the memories, but this team needs something else. I was not impressed by anything last night. Team is still in a funk, but at least we are finding ways to win games. But still lots of red flags, just like there was before the losing streak when we were scraping out wins while playing poorly.

Watching this game early and Kat was easily the best player on the floor, making some great passes, controlling the boards and made a few shots. Meanwhile rest of crew was simply brutal with the ball in their hands - OG lead the abomination and set basketball back 75 years.

As the game progressed Kat went in the tank and started doing all of his normal Kat stuff - basically imploding his way to the bench.

But early on in this game - you watch this team and we won't go far without Kat offensively scoring/passing - he's by far the most talented dude on the floor. I'll still trade him for right deal -- hopefully we can find one.

I do have severe doubts we are going anywhere special with the up/down play of Hart, OG, Mikal -- just crazy, poor decisions all over.

nycericanguy wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

nycericanguy wrote:its crazy we had a better record last season WITHOUT Mitch and Shamet.

ask yourself where this team would be without Mitch? There's EASILY 5-6 games this season we dont win without him, we are probably literally a .500 team without Mitch. And Thibs had us 30-16.

and oh yea Brown is down to an 8 man rotation despite having much more depth this season, didn't take long. to me that tells me he's kind of panicking a bit.

The 8-man rotation tells me both yabusele and Clarkson were bust signings, so this is the same team as last year. I’d love to get a playable 9th man at the deadline and then ride out the season. Worry about the other stuff after the season.

Clarkson's been a rotation player everywhere he's been and he;s not that old.

what about Kolek? Diawara? McCuller?

honestly there isn't one guy on this roster that it feels like Brown is getting the best of outside of maybe Deuce.

Brown can't teach these guys how to dribble, pass and shoot -- this is basic stuff that has nothing to do with the coach. We were playing great thru the tournament - offense was flowing, guys were defending, ball was moving. This **** basketball they are playing isn't the coach it's on the team. Maybe it's all trade rumor related and everyone thinks their being shipped out but IMO very big reach to blame staff for some of the plays these guys are making.

LivingLegend wrote:Leon Rose and Kat interaction pre-game yesterday looked very uncomfortable - forced/quick/unfriendly.

Well they actively trying to trade him!

Wasn't Brown hired in big part because he was supposed to get the most out of KAT? Have to say Brown's done a terrible job here. There is definitely a disconnect. It just doesn't feel like Brown even sees KAT as an All-NBA All-Star level player. He doesn't even feature him offensively in some games. Say what you want about Thibs but he made it a priority to feature KAT! Especially when Brunson would sit. KAT was always the go-to guy with that second unit and no KAT is just regulated to standing there just waiting for the ball late in the shot clock. It also doesn't help that KAT is having a bad year shooting the ball and isn't getting calls. Not sure how you fix this if Brown's system isn't made for someone of KAT's skillset. Maybe putting a true PG in that second unit like Kolek would help but then who do you sit?

We'll see what happens over the next week and at the trade deadline but it's feeling more and more like a divorce might be best for both sides.

LivingLegend wrote:

martin wrote:Game was too hard to watch. My eyes hurt

I mean - I saw a stat that OG is 1st player this season to record a 7 turnover with 0 assist game.

This guy is just amazing - against Philly he looked great because he had clear lanes to the rim and was simply catching and dunking.

If he has to make a basketball play or a quick decision on the move - cross your fingers and say a prayer.

Add in Mikal who only makes a great pass when he guesses right - otherwise he's throwing stupid passes all over. Hart comes in and just starts turning the ball over left and right. Kat makes a nice 3 - so next time he tries a step-back off the dribble wing 3 while kicking his legs into the defenders groin. Follows that up with a drive to nowhere as he falls to the floor screaming. Also on 2 or 3 other drives Kat point blank hit the defender with his knee/elbow/hand.

This front line is just WHEW when it comes to dribbling/passing.

Throw in Deuce who if he's not letting a 3 fly is basically trying to get the ball out of his hands and back to Jalen as fast as possible.

Throw in Mitch who still can't dribble/pass. Throw in Yabu who can only do a dribble hand off on the perimeter.

Who else am I missing???