Knixkik wrote:

martin wrote:Trading Jrue for RJ plus whatever barely makes sense from Portland’s perspective.

They already have Sharpe, Scoot, Anfernee Simons, Matisse Thybulle, 1st round #23 Kris Murray. Jeramy Grant’s best position is probably SF.

Trade gotta work both ways.

It’s nitpicking but J Grant is absolutely a 4 these days. Barrett isn’t perfect but you can’t have enough wings. Portland will have to take back significant salary in a holiday trade. I think Barrett will make more sense than most bad contracts some contenders will have to attach to make the money work. The Knicks have the assets, and Barrett is a player they can easily talk themselves into just like Ayton. If you look around at other teams who will be in the market for Jrue, not sure there’s any team that can offer a contract or player that is more reasonable than Barrett for a rebuilding team.

“Cant have enough wings”, i agree but would we would a bit thin if we trade RJ as said?

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joec32033 wrote:I am not looking to hijack this thread but Barrett seems to be the most versatile guy on this roster. Everyone has included him in trades for stars like DMitchell, Giannis, Dame, Harden, Lavine, Derozan, George to secondary stars/high quality role players like OG, now Holiday, Grant to lower end talent like Bogdanovic, draft picks, Keldon Johnson.....

If that is not the definition versatility I don't know what is.

He’s a young player on a reasonable contract that can play multiple positions. It makes sense.

technomaster wrote:Wait what, the just-turned 33 year old Holiday is old?

He's coming off a regular season where he averaged 19.3ppg, 7.4apg, 5.1rpg, with .479 FG%, .384 3pt%, and .859FT%.

While I agree he's on the wrong side of 30, he probably as a few more years as a relatively elite player and is every bit as impactful as Brunson, especially if you factor in his elite D (and Brunson's lack of it).

Throwing him as a 3rd option gives you a player just as reliable as Brunson/Randle were last season.

His presence on the team would certainly change the youth movement, but swapping him in for RJ, Grimes, or Quickley (or even 2 of them) would give this team much more of a championship vibe this season.

fishmike wrote:

joec32033 wrote:I am not looking to hijack this thread but Barrett seems to be the most versatile guy on this roster. Everyone has included him in trades for stars like DMitchell, Giannis, Dame, Harden, Lavine, Derozan, George to secondary stars/high quality role players like OG, now Holiday, Grant to lower end talent like Bogdanovic, draft picks, Keldon Johnson.....

If that is not the definition versatility I don't know what is.

more like a fan base willing to trade RJ for anything lol. He's so versatile Knick fans will trade him for ANYONE

He in the "Randle tradeable Zone" from the last few years.
WE don't really think RJ contributed to the 47 win and 2nd round season?
Fact is as 3rd option and his inconsistency makes him expendable for star. In some aspects I agree.
Im not that blind! LOL.........
Evan is hostage trade fodder and RJ is the young starter. Add 2-4 picks and your got something. Problem is as much as we love Josh Hart, he is limited offensively and RJ still has yet to hit his ceiling. He is not that far off, but im sure the Coaches understand the deal more than we do. We know the stat line that makes him valuable. What we don't know is how to get him there besides "more is better".

Knixkik wrote:

fishmike wrote:

joec32033 wrote:I am not looking to hijack this thread but Barrett seems to be the most versatile guy on this roster. Everyone has included him in trades for stars like DMitchell, Giannis, Dame, Harden, Lavine, Derozan, George to secondary stars/high quality role players like OG, now Holiday, Grant to lower end talent like Bogdanovic, draft picks, Keldon Johnson.....

If that is not the definition versatility I don't know what is.

more like a fan base willing to trade RJ for anything lol. He's so versatile Knick fans will trade him for ANYONE

I hope we keep RJ long term. But we would be crazy not to trade him for a 2-way star. For all his upside, the Knicks were better statistically when he was off the floor last year. I do think that will improve though.

martin wrote:Philly gotta trade for Jrue Holiday, to complete The Process.

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The culture is set. Any older player we get better be here to elevate us to the next step.

fishmike wrote:

technomaster wrote:Wait what, the just-turned 33 year old Holiday is old?

He's coming off a regular season where he averaged 19.3ppg, 7.4apg, 5.1rpg, with .479 FG%, .384 3pt%, and .859FT%.

While I agree he's on the wrong side of 30, he probably as a few more years as a relatively elite player and is every bit as impactful as Brunson, especially if you factor in his elite D (and Brunson's lack of it).

Throwing him as a 3rd option gives you a player just as reliable as Brunson/Randle were last season.

His presence on the team would certainly change the youth movement, but swapping him in for RJ, Grimes, or Quickley (or even 2 of them) would give this team much more of a championship vibe this season.

those are pretty much IQ's #s as a starter last year.