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Knixkik
Posts: 35411 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #11 USA |
1/31/2023 1:55 PM
martin wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:I think Jerami Grant is a closer baseline. A combo forward in his prime who can guard both forward spots and possibly some guards. OG is the better defender but Grant is superior offensively. It’s a great comparison player wise, although OG is younger and better. But unfortunately the BG and AG (before Gobert and after Gobert) comes into play here. Murray is the baseline deal for a fringe star player in his mid 20s in this market. |
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BigDaddyG
Posts: 39743 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 1/22/2010 Member: #3049 |
1/31/2023 2:08 PM
Knixkik wrote:martin wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:I think Jerami Grant is a closer baseline. A combo forward in his prime who can guard both forward spots and possibly some guards. OG is the better defender but Grant is superior offensively. I'd say Grant is better just off his versatility on the court. Also, calling OG a fringe all star players is a leap. Randle, who is having his best season, and Siakam are fringe all star players this year. Murray had a strong case for being a top 10 guard last season. OG has never had a season that good. If OG were that good, the Raptors wouldn't be talking trade in the first place. Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
- The Tick
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fishmike
Posts: 53800 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/19/2002 Member: #298 USA |
1/31/2023 2:11 PM
Knixkik wrote:Grant is MUCH better offensive player than OG, and guys it's considerable. Grant has dispelled any of the of the "good scorer on a bad team" worries with the season he's having.martin wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:I think Jerami Grant is a closer baseline. A combo forward in his prime who can guard both forward spots and possibly some guards. OG is the better defender but Grant is superior offensively. Grant is a legit 2nd option. OG is much more like DeAnre Hunter. "winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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Rookie
Posts: 26969 Alba Posts: 28 Joined: 10/15/2008 Member: #2274 |
1/31/2023 2:16 PM LAST EDITED: 1/31/2023 2:17 PM
fishmike wrote:Knixkik wrote:Grant is MUCH better offensive player than OG, and guys it's considerable. Grant has dispelled any of the of the "good scorer on a bad team" worries with the season he's having.martin wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:I think Jerami Grant is a closer baseline. A combo forward in his prime who can guard both forward spots and possibly some guards. OG is the better defender but Grant is superior offensively. I agree with this. Grant is the better offensive player and it’s not even close. I hope he doesn’t have any bad feelings about when we drafted his brother |
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BigDaddyG
Posts: 39743 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 1/22/2010 Member: #3049 |
1/31/2023 2:51 PM
Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
- The Tick
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Knixkik
Posts: 35411 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 7/24/2001 Member: #11 USA |
1/31/2023 3:20 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: There it is. |
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BigDaddyG
Posts: 39743 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 1/22/2010 Member: #3049 |
1/31/2023 3:55 PM
Cam Johnson... The Knicks don't have a throwaway piece to match that unless the Raps are interested in clearing cap space.
Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
- The Tick
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fishmike
Posts: 53800 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 7/19/2002 Member: #298 USA |
1/31/2023 4:23 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:Cam Johnson... The Knicks don't have a throwaway piece to match that unless the Raps are interested in clearing cap space.would you rather have Cam than Obi? Cam Johnson is a sniper but he's like not good at any other part of the game really is he?Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: I would think our best would be like Obi/Reddish and the Milw/Wash/Det picks "winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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TPercy
Posts: 28010 Alba Posts: 1 Joined: 2/5/2014 Member: #5748 |
1/31/2023 4:30 PM
Just popping in to say no thanks!
The Future is Bright!
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BigDaddyG
Posts: 39743 Alba Posts: 9 Joined: 1/22/2010 Member: #3049 |
1/31/2023 5:07 PM
fishmike wrote:BigDaddyG wrote:Cam Johnson... The Knicks don't have a throwaway piece to match that unless the Raps are interested in clearing cap space.would you rather have Cam than Obi? Cam Johnson is a sniper but he's like not good at any other part of the game really is he?Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL: If I'm looking at it objectively, I'd say the Raptors would prefer a sniper like Cam. They already Y have a bunch of athletic tweener forwards, but they need shooting. Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right.
- The Tick
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Nalod
Posts: 71067 Alba Posts: 155 Joined: 12/24/2003 Member: #508 USA |
2/6/2023 1:20 PM
Dejuante Murray was an allStar. OG is not.
Gorbert was multiple DOPY and all star. OG is not. As mentioned, RJ may prove to be better. Many are down on RJ these days. Im ok if we do nothing this week. The hype is off the charts and we are not in contention. Have a plan, stick to it and good things happen. Thing of it is, we don't know the plan. |
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NYStateOfMind
Posts: 21807 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 1/24/2014 Member: #5741 USA |
2/6/2023 1:42 PM
Several posters have mistakenly concluded that other posters pointing out RJ's lackluster play and not being held accountable, for wanting him gone. Not me, RJ is talented, tough, and stays confident to a fault at times, but he needs coaching to reach the next level and should remain a Knick unless moved for a difference-maker like an SGA. Some might want him gone, but I think most are just tired of the lack of b-ball smarts in his decisions, which keeps him stuck in his current gear. He has at least another level to hit and deserves time to do so and mature, hopefully in NY. Same with a level-headed Randle. Vets & coaches just need to help them reach their peaks.
A starting line-up of JB, RJ, Randle, Mitch, & Grimes is a damn solid foundation for success, IQ off the bench for sure. I'd add Obi, iHart, & McBride if they stay. Add 1 or 2 rotational players and I see a 2nd round playoff team. Cam is doomed here, Rose seems cooked, Sims is limited but might learn and have a role. I even think EF on the 2nd unit is a damn solid spark plug as seen in Philly. Who knows how the Euro-stash will pan out in the NBA? Plenty of positives for this team, and that is why some posters expect more. Nalod wrote:Dejuante Murray was an allStar. OG is not. |