blkexec wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

ToddTT wrote:I remember some posts on a Raptors forum where the sentiment was that OG was overvalued.

I wonder what they’re seeing that we’re not aware of.

Could just be some grumpy hard to please fans. I’ve heard those exist.

He's not much of an intiator from what I've seen. Tough, straight line driver, but not anyone you want leading your offense. But there were rumors a year ago that he felt he should be an offensive focal point

I like OG for this team. Yes it feels like hes overpaid if you only look at his offensive output. He brings a lot more to the table. Plus a new environment would be good for him. Not sure how this impacts RJ, but in a vacuum he’s a nice fit next to JB and Jules.

New environment be good for him? How do you know this?

“He brings more to the table”? What is that? Im not being snarky, do you watch many Raptor games? I don’t so if your seeing somthing please describe it.
As for Moving RJ back to SG and OG at SF, how does that change the ball movement and chemistry?
RJ ball movement is inconsistent at times can be quite good, others he is going to the rim and thats it.
My point is how is OG to fit in?
Issue I see is Raptors put in a ceiling for him and not sure he hits it but now has to pay him.
ANd there is but so much a team can pay and they lock themselves up.

Im not pro or against, Im just not seeing a description for his game. As for “new scenery”, thats kind of subjective to the individual and whats in his head.

HofstraBBall wrote:

fishmike wrote:I would 100% do that trade. It's impossible not to. I think that propels us into the type of team that can defend at a title level. We would still be crazy young and have enough draft picks to continue to add guys to the pipeline.

I would look for a more versatile big off the bench than IHart (long term) unless he levels up some

Brunson/RJ/OG/Randle/Mitch
IQ/Grimes/Hart would be my 8 guys... there's still pretty big upside imo w/ IQ/Grimes/RJ/Mitch being as young as they are as well

If it was up to me, I would go after Siakam. Watching Raptor games, he is their best player. The guy all teams plan to defend. IF these two are allegedly available, I would go after the alpha.
Imo, OG is too complacent. Does not have that dog mentality on offense.
Could be argued RJ has that more. Something I have always said is needed in NY. The kind of confidence that players need with all the loudmouth fans in the stands telling them how to play.
See OG as a better taller Frank. Just not confident enough to be elite.
Pascal is the guy. Just don't think Rapts would give their best player up.
Second issue for me is that, OG will be available in a couple of years. If you are giving up considerable assets now, it has to be for someone that can take you deep in the playoffs and someone who will not be attainable if you don't act now.

Also, if we were to trade for OG, I believe Rapts would absolutely want RJ in return along with youngins like IQ or Obi and three firsts. Think if not, they would stay out and give the Barnes, OG, Siakam experiment another year.

Valid points. Where does Siakam fit? You just gave Mitch 60 mil. Signed Hart. Have Sims. At the center position.

Randle is entrenched at the PF spot.

You could probably get OG cheaper and he is a better fit.

Just not sure how that would work out.

Edit after research.

I am looking at OG as an older better defensive more possibly efficient offensive TJ if they had the same usage.