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GustavBahler
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1/11/2023  4:26 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/11/2023  4:26 PM
Agree. All-Star appearances dont mean all that much to me these days. The only metric I care about now is playoff wins. Not championships, or conference titles. Just win some playoff games. Make the other team earn that series.


BigDaddyG wrote:
KnickDanger wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
VDesai wrote:Lets shut down Mr Wannabe Fake All Star

Unfortunately, the only wannabe All Stars in this equation are Randle and JB. I think Haliburton is almost a sure thing.

The new breed of Knicks fan!

What, you want me to shower them with positivity even when it's outside the realm of reality. Look at their stats. I want both Knicks in the All Star game but the reality is that both might miss out. Haliburton is probably a lock, especially with the Pacers playing decently.

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1/11/2023  4:39 PM
SergioNYK wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
KnickDanger wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
VDesai wrote:Lets shut down Mr Wannabe Fake All Star

Unfortunately, the only wannabe All Stars in this equation are Randle and JB. I think Haliburton is almost a sure thing.

The new breed of Knicks fan!

What, you want me to shower them with positivity even when it's outside the realm of reality. Look at their stats. I want both Knicks in the All Star game but the reality is that both might miss out. Haliburton is probably a lock, especially with the Pacers playing decently.

Pacers are just one game better as of right now and Brunson 110% deserves to be an All-Star. So does Randle. Both have the stats and a winning record.

Hal has better stats and a winning record. It's going to be tough for JB and Randle. Like I said, I want both to make it. Make sure to vote on NBA. com.

Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right. - The Tick
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1/11/2023  4:46 PM
okay since everyone else is a puss: we win, and it's not close!!
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1/11/2023  4:47 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
SergioNYK wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
KnickDanger wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
VDesai wrote:Lets shut down Mr Wannabe Fake All Star

Unfortunately, the only wannabe All Stars in this equation are Randle and JB. I think Haliburton is almost a sure thing.

The new breed of Knicks fan!

What, you want me to shower them with positivity even when it's outside the realm of reality. Look at their stats. I want both Knicks in the All Star game but the reality is that both might miss out. Haliburton is probably a lock, especially with the Pacers playing decently.

Pacers are just one game better as of right now and Brunson 110% deserves to be an All-Star. So does Randle. Both have the stats and a winning record.

Hal has better stats and a winning record. It's going to be tough for JB and Randle. Like I said, I want both to make it. Make sure to vote on NBA. com.

But you're making it seem like Haliburton and the Hicks are so much better, which they are not. All 3 - Haliburton, Brunson, Randle - are equally deserving.

And I don't vote for All-Stars. It's rigged anyway and it's a kids game.

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1/11/2023  4:54 PM
SergioNYK wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
SergioNYK wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
KnickDanger wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
VDesai wrote:Lets shut down Mr Wannabe Fake All Star

Unfortunately, the only wannabe All Stars in this equation are Randle and JB. I think Haliburton is almost a sure thing.

The new breed of Knicks fan!

What, you want me to shower them with positivity even when it's outside the realm of reality. Look at their stats. I want both Knicks in the All Star game but the reality is that both might miss out. Haliburton is probably a lock, especially with the Pacers playing decently.

Pacers are just one game better as of right now and Brunson 110% deserves to be an All-Star. So does Randle. Both have the stats and a winning record.

Hal has better stats and a winning record. It's going to be tough for JB and Randle. Like I said, I want both to make it. Make sure to vote on NBA. com.

But you're making it seem like Haliburton and the Hicks are so much better, which they are not. All 3 - Haliburton, Brunson, Randle - are equally deserving.

And I don't vote for All-Stars. It's rigged anyway and it's a kids game.


Nah, I think the Knicks are a better team. There's no harm in saying Hal is having a big season. I think he's a bit overrated, but the way he's producing speaks for itself. Hal's numbers speak for themself. Their better than both Randle and JB's stats. And you can't argue that Randle and JB are playing on a better team because both squads have similar records. Wally's comments were dumb. Hal has a clearer path to the All Star team than our guys. Doesn't take away from their seasons, but the East is tough.
Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right. - The Tick
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1/11/2023  5:00 PM
Am I being naive or aren't all 3 likely to be all stars?
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1/11/2023  5:07 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
SergioNYK wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
SergioNYK wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
KnickDanger wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
VDesai wrote:Lets shut down Mr Wannabe Fake All Star

Unfortunately, the only wannabe All Stars in this equation are Randle and JB. I think Haliburton is almost a sure thing.

The new breed of Knicks fan!

What, you want me to shower them with positivity even when it's outside the realm of reality. Look at their stats. I want both Knicks in the All Star game but the reality is that both might miss out. Haliburton is probably a lock, especially with the Pacers playing decently.

Pacers are just one game better as of right now and Brunson 110% deserves to be an All-Star. So does Randle. Both have the stats and a winning record.

Hal has better stats and a winning record. It's going to be tough for JB and Randle. Like I said, I want both to make it. Make sure to vote on NBA. com.

But you're making it seem like Haliburton and the Hicks are so much better, which they are not. All 3 - Haliburton, Brunson, Randle - are equally deserving.

And I don't vote for All-Stars. It's rigged anyway and it's a kids game.


Nah, I think the Knicks are a better team. There's no harm in saying Hal is having a big season. I think he's a bit overrated, but the way he's producing speaks for itself. Hal's numbers speak for themself. Their better than both Randle and JB's stats. And you can't argue that Randle and JB are playing on a better team because both squads have similar records. Wally's comments were dumb. Hal has a clearer path to the All Star team than our guys. Doesn't take away from their seasons, but the East is tough.
dude's having a fantastic season and is a really good player. Im fine with passing on a kid who at draft lacked NBA size/athleticism/strength, wasnt a pure PG and really only demonstrated great shooting. Good for Hali. Good job Indy. Obviously Obi isnt as good but I have no problem with the FOs reasoning at the time. Turns out Jules has been really hard to not play and Hali's been great. So it goes.

I do think it makes sense to explore a trade for Obi if something pops. He's a valuable backup if not

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1/11/2023  5:11 PM
fishmike wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
SergioNYK wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
SergioNYK wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
KnickDanger wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
VDesai wrote:Lets shut down Mr Wannabe Fake All Star

Unfortunately, the only wannabe All Stars in this equation are Randle and JB. I think Haliburton is almost a sure thing.

The new breed of Knicks fan!

What, you want me to shower them with positivity even when it's outside the realm of reality. Look at their stats. I want both Knicks in the All Star game but the reality is that both might miss out. Haliburton is probably a lock, especially with the Pacers playing decently.

Pacers are just one game better as of right now and Brunson 110% deserves to be an All-Star. So does Randle. Both have the stats and a winning record.

Hal has better stats and a winning record. It's going to be tough for JB and Randle. Like I said, I want both to make it. Make sure to vote on NBA. com.

But you're making it seem like Haliburton and the Hicks are so much better, which they are not. All 3 - Haliburton, Brunson, Randle - are equally deserving.

And I don't vote for All-Stars. It's rigged anyway and it's a kids game.


Nah, I think the Knicks are a better team. There's no harm in saying Hal is having a big season. I think he's a bit overrated, but the way he's producing speaks for itself. Hal's numbers speak for themself. Their better than both Randle and JB's stats. And you can't argue that Randle and JB are playing on a better team because both squads have similar records. Wally's comments were dumb. Hal has a clearer path to the All Star team than our guys. Doesn't take away from their seasons, but the East is tough.
dude's having a fantastic season and is a really good player. Im fine with passing on a kid who at draft lacked NBA size/athleticism/strength, wasnt a pure PG and really only demonstrated great shooting. Good for Hali. Good job Indy. Obviously Obi isnt as good but I have no problem with the FOs reasoning at the time. Turns out Jules has been really hard to not play and Hali's been great. So it goes.

I do think it makes sense to explore a trade for Obi if something pops. He's a valuable backup if not

Yeah, restricted free agency is tough. Say a team likes Obi, sees his potential and overpays. That leaves the Knicks losing an asset for nothing. If they don't see him being a key part of the future, then it's better to try and get some value back now.

Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right. - The Tick
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1/11/2023  5:19 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
fishmike wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
SergioNYK wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
SergioNYK wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
KnickDanger wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
VDesai wrote:Lets shut down Mr Wannabe Fake All Star

Unfortunately, the only wannabe All Stars in this equation are Randle and JB. I think Haliburton is almost a sure thing.

The new breed of Knicks fan!

What, you want me to shower them with positivity even when it's outside the realm of reality. Look at their stats. I want both Knicks in the All Star game but the reality is that both might miss out. Haliburton is probably a lock, especially with the Pacers playing decently.

Pacers are just one game better as of right now and Brunson 110% deserves to be an All-Star. So does Randle. Both have the stats and a winning record.

Hal has better stats and a winning record. It's going to be tough for JB and Randle. Like I said, I want both to make it. Make sure to vote on NBA. com.

But you're making it seem like Haliburton and the Hicks are so much better, which they are not. All 3 - Haliburton, Brunson, Randle - are equally deserving.

And I don't vote for All-Stars. It's rigged anyway and it's a kids game.


Nah, I think the Knicks are a better team. There's no harm in saying Hal is having a big season. I think he's a bit overrated, but the way he's producing speaks for itself. Hal's numbers speak for themself. Their better than both Randle and JB's stats. And you can't argue that Randle and JB are playing on a better team because both squads have similar records. Wally's comments were dumb. Hal has a clearer path to the All Star team than our guys. Doesn't take away from their seasons, but the East is tough.
dude's having a fantastic season and is a really good player. Im fine with passing on a kid who at draft lacked NBA size/athleticism/strength, wasnt a pure PG and really only demonstrated great shooting. Good for Hali. Good job Indy. Obviously Obi isnt as good but I have no problem with the FOs reasoning at the time. Turns out Jules has been really hard to not play and Hali's been great. So it goes.

I do think it makes sense to explore a trade for Obi if something pops. He's a valuable backup if not

Yeah, restricted free agency is tough. Say a team likes Obi, sees his potential and overpays. That leaves the Knicks losing an asset for nothing. If they don't see him being a key part of the future, then it's better to try and get some value back now.

Knicks can always match. Teams have surely done that.. and assuming said team is using cap space then the Knicks could work out at S&T for draft comp (vs. just matching and dealing with it later)
"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
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1/11/2023  5:24 PM
fishmike wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
fishmike wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
SergioNYK wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
SergioNYK wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
KnickDanger wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
VDesai wrote:Lets shut down Mr Wannabe Fake All Star

Unfortunately, the only wannabe All Stars in this equation are Randle and JB. I think Haliburton is almost a sure thing.

The new breed of Knicks fan!

What, you want me to shower them with positivity even when it's outside the realm of reality. Look at their stats. I want both Knicks in the All Star game but the reality is that both might miss out. Haliburton is probably a lock, especially with the Pacers playing decently.

Pacers are just one game better as of right now and Brunson 110% deserves to be an All-Star. So does Randle. Both have the stats and a winning record.

Hal has better stats and a winning record. It's going to be tough for JB and Randle. Like I said, I want both to make it. Make sure to vote on NBA. com.

But you're making it seem like Haliburton and the Hicks are so much better, which they are not. All 3 - Haliburton, Brunson, Randle - are equally deserving.

And I don't vote for All-Stars. It's rigged anyway and it's a kids game.


Nah, I think the Knicks are a better team. There's no harm in saying Hal is having a big season. I think he's a bit overrated, but the way he's producing speaks for itself. Hal's numbers speak for themself. Their better than both Randle and JB's stats. And you can't argue that Randle and JB are playing on a better team because both squads have similar records. Wally's comments were dumb. Hal has a clearer path to the All Star team than our guys. Doesn't take away from their seasons, but the East is tough.
dude's having a fantastic season and is a really good player. Im fine with passing on a kid who at draft lacked NBA size/athleticism/strength, wasnt a pure PG and really only demonstrated great shooting. Good for Hali. Good job Indy. Obviously Obi isnt as good but I have no problem with the FOs reasoning at the time. Turns out Jules has been really hard to not play and Hali's been great. So it goes.

I do think it makes sense to explore a trade for Obi if something pops. He's a valuable backup if not

Yeah, restricted free agency is tough. Say a team likes Obi, sees his potential and overpays. That leaves the Knicks losing an asset for nothing. If they don't see him being a key part of the future, then it's better to try and get some value back now.

Knicks can always match. Teams have surely done that.. and assuming said team is using cap space then the Knicks could work out at S&T for draft comp (vs. just matching and dealing with it later)

Yeah, but the risk in matching is that you're overpaying for a player you may not want. Also, Mavs fans where sure that they were going to get something back for JB and we didn't give them s@#t. I guess my main point is crap happens and it's best to eliminate as much uncertainty as possible.
Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right. - The Tick
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1/11/2023  5:28 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
fishmike wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
fishmike wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
SergioNYK wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
SergioNYK wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
KnickDanger wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
VDesai wrote:Lets shut down Mr Wannabe Fake All Star

Unfortunately, the only wannabe All Stars in this equation are Randle and JB. I think Haliburton is almost a sure thing.

The new breed of Knicks fan!

What, you want me to shower them with positivity even when it's outside the realm of reality. Look at their stats. I want both Knicks in the All Star game but the reality is that both might miss out. Haliburton is probably a lock, especially with the Pacers playing decently.

Pacers are just one game better as of right now and Brunson 110% deserves to be an All-Star. So does Randle. Both have the stats and a winning record.

Hal has better stats and a winning record. It's going to be tough for JB and Randle. Like I said, I want both to make it. Make sure to vote on NBA. com.

But you're making it seem like Haliburton and the Hicks are so much better, which they are not. All 3 - Haliburton, Brunson, Randle - are equally deserving.

And I don't vote for All-Stars. It's rigged anyway and it's a kids game.


Nah, I think the Knicks are a better team. There's no harm in saying Hal is having a big season. I think he's a bit overrated, but the way he's producing speaks for itself. Hal's numbers speak for themself. Their better than both Randle and JB's stats. And you can't argue that Randle and JB are playing on a better team because both squads have similar records. Wally's comments were dumb. Hal has a clearer path to the All Star team than our guys. Doesn't take away from their seasons, but the East is tough.
dude's having a fantastic season and is a really good player. Im fine with passing on a kid who at draft lacked NBA size/athleticism/strength, wasnt a pure PG and really only demonstrated great shooting. Good for Hali. Good job Indy. Obviously Obi isnt as good but I have no problem with the FOs reasoning at the time. Turns out Jules has been really hard to not play and Hali's been great. So it goes.

I do think it makes sense to explore a trade for Obi if something pops. He's a valuable backup if not

Yeah, restricted free agency is tough. Say a team likes Obi, sees his potential and overpays. That leaves the Knicks losing an asset for nothing. If they don't see him being a key part of the future, then it's better to try and get some value back now.

Knicks can always match. Teams have surely done that.. and assuming said team is using cap space then the Knicks could work out at S&T for draft comp (vs. just matching and dealing with it later)

Yeah, but the risk in matching is that you're overpaying for a player you may not want. Also, Mavs fans where sure that they were going to get something back for JB and we didn't give them s@#t. I guess my main point is crap happens and it's best to eliminate as much uncertainty as possible.
Brunson wasnt an RFA.. I'm sure they would have matched if they could. He was a 4 year player and a 2nd round pick. They had some Bird rights but def not RFA status
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Chandler wrote:okay since everyone else is a puss: we win, and it's not close!!

I'd love to agree, but. Indy is 8 & 2 in their last 10, we're 4 & 6 and under 500 at home.

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Didn’t listen to whole pod but Caitlin Cooper of Indy Cornrows is amazing. She rattles off 10 Indiana games from memory as if she is reading boxscore after boxscore giving of details of each and how they unfold while I can barely tell you who the Knicks played over their last 3 games. Start at 5:50

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fishmike wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
fishmike wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
fishmike wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
SergioNYK wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
SergioNYK wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
KnickDanger wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
VDesai wrote:Lets shut down Mr Wannabe Fake All Star

Unfortunately, the only wannabe All Stars in this equation are Randle and JB. I think Haliburton is almost a sure thing.

The new breed of Knicks fan!

What, you want me to shower them with positivity even when it's outside the realm of reality. Look at their stats. I want both Knicks in the All Star game but the reality is that both might miss out. Haliburton is probably a lock, especially with the Pacers playing decently.

Pacers are just one game better as of right now and Brunson 110% deserves to be an All-Star. So does Randle. Both have the stats and a winning record.

Hal has better stats and a winning record. It's going to be tough for JB and Randle. Like I said, I want both to make it. Make sure to vote on NBA. com.

But you're making it seem like Haliburton and the Hicks are so much better, which they are not. All 3 - Haliburton, Brunson, Randle - are equally deserving.

And I don't vote for All-Stars. It's rigged anyway and it's a kids game.


Nah, I think the Knicks are a better team. There's no harm in saying Hal is having a big season. I think he's a bit overrated, but the way he's producing speaks for itself. Hal's numbers speak for themself. Their better than both Randle and JB's stats. And you can't argue that Randle and JB are playing on a better team because both squads have similar records. Wally's comments were dumb. Hal has a clearer path to the All Star team than our guys. Doesn't take away from their seasons, but the East is tough.
dude's having a fantastic season and is a really good player. Im fine with passing on a kid who at draft lacked NBA size/athleticism/strength, wasnt a pure PG and really only demonstrated great shooting. Good for Hali. Good job Indy. Obviously Obi isnt as good but I have no problem with the FOs reasoning at the time. Turns out Jules has been really hard to not play and Hali's been great. So it goes.

I do think it makes sense to explore a trade for Obi if something pops. He's a valuable backup if not

Yeah, restricted free agency is tough. Say a team likes Obi, sees his potential and overpays. That leaves the Knicks losing an asset for nothing. If they don't see him being a key part of the future, then it's better to try and get some value back now.

Knicks can always match. Teams have surely done that.. and assuming said team is using cap space then the Knicks could work out at S&T for draft comp (vs. just matching and dealing with it later)

Yeah, but the risk in matching is that you're overpaying for a player you may not want. Also, Mavs fans where sure that they were going to get something back for JB and we didn't give them s@#t. I guess my main point is crap happens and it's best to eliminate as much uncertainty as possible.
Brunson wasnt an RFA.. I'm sure they would have matched if they could. He was a 4 year player and a 2nd round pick. They had some Bird rights but def not RFA status

Forgot about that. Still say it's better to flip Obi sooner rather than later.
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Be interesting to see who starts

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martin wrote:Didn’t listen to whole pod but Caitlin Cooper of Indy Cornrows is amazing. She rattles off 10 Indiana games from memory as if she is reading boxscore after boxscore giving of details of each and how they unfold while I can barely tell you who the Knicks played over their last 3 games. Start at 5:50

Yeah, she's always góod read or listen. KFS is good too, but Indy Cornrows is next level.

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