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[Game Thread 11/11/22] Knicks vs Pistons 7:30PM
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HofstraBBall
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11/12/2022  9:28 AM
Good win. Although, play was sub par. Would have been blown out again versus a winning team.
RJ played well. Made his shots and was aggressive to the rim and was finishing.
JB played a great all around game. Controlled the game and took over at the end.
JR needs to stop shooting so many three's. Shot 73% from 2. Good to see it did not affect his rebounding or assists but definitely lost confidence in second half on offense.
Hart was a monster on the glass.
IQ chipped in with timely threes and good play.

What happened to Grimes starting?
Though he looked good during his 5 point run in third. Hopefully he gets back in shape and healthy. Excited to see a big year from him. Think he is our wild card.

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11/12/2022  9:44 AM    LAST EDITED: 11/12/2022  9:47 AM
Nice bounce back win even though our old friend Burks and Livers were making it a little scary in the fourth. Biggest play of the game was Brunson's And-1 after the Pistons cut it down to 6 with about 3 minutes to go where Stewart blocked RJ and IQ got that long offensive rebound and passed it to Brunson.

RJ continues to play well and shoot well. That early season slump is over. Loved how he attacked the rim and was in control while finishing. Brunson Randle played well too. No crazy spin moves or iso's. Got all the key rebounds and a clutch fade away in the paint too over Bogdanovic.

Got to take care of business tomorrow before that dreadful road trip!

BTW, I liked the black city jersey's! Nice job by Kith!

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11/12/2022  9:57 AM
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11/12/2022  10:00 AM
Clean wrote:
Panos wrote:WTF happened in this game thread?

It looks like everyone detached from the team already. I will probably be missing a lot of game threads. I don't blame them. My old butt is starting to knockout before the game and wake up at half time or after the game. It used to never happen to but now I wake up and find that I left everything on because I knocked out so fast.

LOL, this old man dozed off in the 4th as well. Glad we won!

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11/12/2022  10:48 AM

This has me at a loss for words. I know our leads are never safe but I never thought it would be this bad. After a second thought it is not as crazy as I initially thought. If you think about it every time teams turn up the heat we get wrecked. We was a top seed the year we made the playoffs. Once the Hawks turned up the heat we got destroyed. Whenever we play top teams we lose. If you think about it teams turn it up in the 4th. So naturally we will be the absolute worst in the NBA in the 4th.
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11/12/2022  11:00 AM
Clean wrote:
This has me at a loss for words. I know our leads are never safe but I never thought it would be this bad. After a second thought it is not as crazy as I initially thought. If you think about it every time teams turn up the heat we get wrecked. We was a top seed the year we made the playoffs. Once the Hawks turned up the heat we got destroyed. Whenever we play top teams we lose. If you think about it teams turn it up in the 4th. So naturally we will be the absolute worst in the NBA in the 4th.

Happens when we get too much one on one where our top three think they have to do things on their own. They need to figure it out and, keep ball moving and play together. Especially against good teams and in crunch time. Last night it was a mixture of decent ball movement but mostly JB, RJ hitting their iso moves. Think time together will help.

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11/12/2022  12:08 PM
We seem to default to poor habits (eg iso) since we don't know when/how to step on the gas pedal and put teams away. In theory we should keep moving the ball and doing the things that built us the lead but we almost always play from a defensive/anxious position and try to hold on instead. That's coaching and needing your top 2 players to have that leadership and killer instinct. After 2nd half of last season I thought RJ may have that - but he still struggles to bank in his layups so that may not matter.
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11/12/2022  12:34 PM
RJ lack of banking on left or right side? Defense is pushing him right and that gives him an opening to the front of the rim, and thus lack of bank. He getting to the line though.
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11/12/2022  2:31 PM
HofstraBBall wrote:
Clean wrote:
This has me at a loss for words. I know our leads are never safe but I never thought it would be this bad. After a second thought it is not as crazy as I initially thought. If you think about it every time teams turn up the heat we get wrecked. We was a top seed the year we made the playoffs. Once the Hawks turned up the heat we got destroyed. Whenever we play top teams we lose. If you think about it teams turn it up in the 4th. So naturally we will be the absolute worst in the NBA in the 4th.

Happens when we get too much one on one where our top three think they have to do things on their own. They need to figure it out and, keep ball moving and play together. Especially against good teams and in crunch time. Last night it was a mixture of decent ball movement but mostly JB, RJ hitting their iso moves. Think time together will help.

this is no different than football teams that start strong and fade, recover at half time, fade.

This is guys playing the way Thibs wants at the beginning of the game. And then they lose track of what to do, or some things are being taken away, and they're not adjusting.

And then our guys are probably getting mentally tired.

I think Thibs also needs to work on his rotations. This idea that you can bury Obi and not give him minutes, crazy. Our best shooter. I get having to earn minutes. But whyis Randle out there? Times are he just shoots blanks. Definitely did other things, boards, etc. Same for RJ who did have a good game.

Thank goodness we beat a team we are supposed to. Last year, we lost these.

500 team.

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11/12/2022  4:26 PM
Will be interesting to see how long Cam starts. Too many games where he fades in the background. I know the talent is there, dont see the motor.
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11/12/2022  5:47 PM
HofstraBBall wrote:
Clean wrote:
This has me at a loss for words. I know our leads are never safe but I never thought it would be this bad. After a second thought it is not as crazy as I initially thought. If you think about it every time teams turn up the heat we get wrecked. We was a top seed the year we made the playoffs. Once the Hawks turned up the heat we got destroyed. Whenever we play top teams we lose. If you think about it teams turn it up in the 4th. So naturally we will be the absolute worst in the NBA in the 4th.

Happens when we get too much one on one where our top three think they have to do things on their own. They need to figure it out and, keep ball moving and play together. Especially against good teams and in crunch time. Last night it was a mixture of decent ball movement but mostly JB, RJ hitting their iso moves. Think time together will help.

This is a sign that this team does not have a leader. It has 3 guys who want to lead. There can be only one

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11/12/2022  7:34 PM
HofstraBBall wrote:
Clean wrote:
This has me at a loss for words. I know our leads are never safe but I never thought it would be this bad. After a second thought it is not as crazy as I initially thought. If you think about it every time teams turn up the heat we get wrecked. We was a top seed the year we made the playoffs. Once the Hawks turned up the heat we got destroyed. Whenever we play top teams we lose. If you think about it teams turn it up in the 4th. So naturally we will be the absolute worst in the NBA in the 4th.

Happens when we get too much one on one where our top three think they have to do things on their own. They need to figure it out and, keep ball moving and play together. Especially against good teams and in crunch time. Last night it was a mixture of decent ball movement but mostly JB, RJ hitting their iso moves. Think time together will help.


The Knicks trio (Randle, Barrett, Brunson) 4 quarters of one on one ISO ball puts me to sleep, and their Knicks teammates to sleep by taking all the fun out of a team-ball game. Fournier's a catch n shoot player, not a one on one ISO player. Cam Reddish and Obi Toppin are slashers that move without the ball looking for the pass, they are not one on one ISO players.
It was terrible the Knicks last 3 season having two shoot-first ISO players in Randle & Barrett.
Now the Knicks have added a 3rd shoot-first ISO player in Brunson. Its good for 1 or 2 quarters in a game, but it's BORING for 4 quarters in every game.
What really make it terrible for the Knicks are they are the 3 most minute players, and their defense are super poor on the defensive end of the court.
If this is the strategy coach Tom Thibs are gonna use the rest of the season, then the Knicks are TANKING for Victor.

Last night was the Knicks 12th game of the season, and Leon Rose & Tom Thibs has refused to let veteran star (coach/player) D.Rose prepare n tutor n guide an all bench lineup on the court in any of the 12 games.
D.Rose have two creative bench players in Quickley & Obi Toppin who bring ball-movement and a up-tempo performance to the lineup which Cam Reddish or Fournier or Grimes or Hart or Sims could compete in.

Before last night Knicks game ....
NBA fans and myself have the Detroit Piston receiving the 1 to 3 draft pick in 2023 !!!

[Game Thread 11/11/22] Knicks vs Pistons 7:30PM

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