Swishfm3 wrote:I would remind everyone that Suns were pretty bad before Chris Paul arrived and Booker leading the charge

Fans love the starphuch when typing it but we all know the lessons of what happens when the cupboard is empty.
Even Kobe had some seasons when Lakers were not up to par. He could light it up but winning was another story.

Until otherwise seen I doubt PHX falls below playoff level and my theory is they are for sale and won't be having a fire sale anytime soon.
They will need to move on from Paul at some point but while a chip might not be the standard they still can make noise and money which a team for sale should strive for. Nice core that needs some tweeks.

BigDaddyG wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:

KnickDanger wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:I think you’re highly mistaking his value . He’s a top 10 nba player when healthy and close to top 5

Agree, doesnt have to work as hard as Mitchell to dominate. In part because he's a bigger guard.

I agree with both of you...

but I guess he's a couple seasons removed from scoring 28ppg in the Finals though and should be remembered as a chucker

Simply put, in my perception Booker "moves the needle" a large degree more than Mitchell. Meaning an Ainge's ransom might be worth it. Similar stats and Booker is slightly younger though two years longer in the league (Tank babies note both 13th picks, two years apart). Booker's bigger and significantly a much better defensive presence. All moot though I assume.

Booker is approaching top 10 status. A couple retirements and he will be a top 10 mainstay, imo. I'd break the bank for him.

It would depend on what else is left on the roster. You might be looking at Melo all over again and while agree, Booker is a top 20 player, he's not good enough to singlehandedly carry a team to the playoffs.

Starters would be Brunson/Booker/RJ/Randle/Mitch
bench would be McBride/IHart and whatever is left.

Having Rokus in the pipeline really helps. I'm not sure Booker is the guy who elevates this squad to a conference title contender but that team is pretty young and sure has some pop. Also we have seen this FO do a pretty good getting role players in late the draft to fill out the roster.

I personally would be inclined to NOT do this as I really value our young guy and enjoy this process... but Booker is a star player and his contract I think makes us a viable trade partner IF the Suns blow it up

BigDaddyG wrote:

fishmike wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:

KnickDanger wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:I think you’re highly mistaking his value . He’s a top 10 nba player when healthy and close to top 5

Agree, doesnt have to work as hard as Mitchell to dominate. In part because he's a bigger guard.

I agree with both of you...

but I guess he's a couple seasons removed from scoring 28ppg in the Finals though and should be remembered as a chucker

Simply put, in my perception Booker "moves the needle" a large degree more than Mitchell. Meaning an Ainge's ransom might be worth it. Similar stats and Booker is slightly younger though two years longer in the league (Tank babies note both 13th picks, two years apart). Booker's bigger and significantly a much better defensive presence. All moot though I assume.

Booker is approaching top 10 status. A couple retirements and he will be a top 10 mainstay, imo. I'd break the bank for him.

It would depend on what else is left on the roster. You might be looking at Melo all over again and while agree, Booker is a top 20 player, he's not good enough to singlehandedly carry a team to the playoffs.

Lets say the young players you send out are Obi/IQ/Grimes and the vets are Rose/Fournier (where to Suns or somewhere else to make this work) and some draft comp

Starters would be Brunson/Booker/RJ/Randle/Mitch
bench would be McBride/IHart and whatever is left.

Having Rokus in the pipeline really helps. I'm not sure Booker is the guy who elevates this squad to a conference title contender but that team is pretty young and sure has some pop. Also we have seen this FO do a pretty good getting role players in late the draft to fill out the roster.

I personally would be inclined to NOT do this as I really value our young guy and enjoy this process... but Booker is a star player and his contract I think makes us a viable trade partner IF the Suns blow it up

Booker's versatility on offense would fill most of the strengths IQ and Grimes provide. Obi is stuck at his current role as long as Obi is here. I wouldn't be completely happy if they were gone, but I could live with it. Rokus is 6'5"-ish, so he could slide in and get minutes at the 2. But how many picks are you willing to give up? Three to four unprotected picks, 2 more of the other picks?

Clearly its a question of cost. But assume the cost is Fournier, IQ, Grimes and Obi, 3 unprotected and 2 swaps. Maybe we push for a later protection.

Brunson/Rose/McBride
Booker/
Barrett/
Randle/Reddish
Robinson/Hart/Sims

Plus they have ancillary picks still. And they have salary cap exceptions to fill in the roster.

Look at it in reverse. If they don't make a trade to consolidate assets, what does the roster look like next year when between 2 and 4 draft picks vest in a single year and you are thinking about bringing in RokJok? Probably have to make A move. Doesn't have to be THIS move, but I mean, if you don't like Booker, is there anything you would make a move for?

HoustonSprewell84 wrote:Booker is worth more than Mitchell.

I’m confused why you would think otherwise. He has had way more Play-off and Olympic success than Mitchell. And he’s younger than Donovan.

Yeah but we didn’t pass on him in the draft for Frank. Because 11 other teams in the 2017 draft didn’t do the same exact thing and pass on Mitchell

Teams with unprotected first rounders in this upcoming draft are probably not trading them away. Any GM who traded a pick that became Wembanyama would have destroyed his legacy beyond repair. So this is perhaps an unusual season where those picks are valued far more highly than they normally would. Long way of saying, the price might be a little lower than usual.

Things won't really even change after the season as any lottery pick is going to be incredibly over-valued. Should be a hoot.