Nalod wrote:Philc1 wrote:Nalod wrote:Philc1 wrote:Allanfan20 wrote:Philc1 wrote:Allanfan20 wrote:Still incredible. The people arguing for Ohtani to be the MVP shouldn’t be allowed to watch sports again
I guess no one else should be allowed to win mvp ever again because Ohtani pitches
It’s not even a close argument. Judge is at the top in all of the important categories and he steals bases and he’s a gold glove calibre fielder. Ohtani being top ten in all categories is not enough and Judge has the WAR. He’s doing all of this as pitchers try to pitch around him. That’s close to a triple crown as pitchers try to pitch around him.
The Yankees would probably be a wild card team or non-playoff team without him.
I agree the Yankees wouldn’t even make the playoffs without judge. Cashman sucks
who is the GM of the team that has Aaron Judge?
Cashman.
He sucks because team got off to the most torrid start and on pace to win 130 games?
Then didn't?
Oh, he ruined a great team? Wait, he built a great team?
Second best record in AL, and he sucks because they made trades that have not gave fruit?
Do you root for them to lose so you can promote this "he sucks" narrative and improve your social standing or actually win but look foolish?
As if you need any help.
Gene Michael drafted Aaron Judge. The Yankees are successful because no salary cap and Gene Michael’s draft picks from years ago including Aaron Judge. Cashman would have been fired years ago if he was GM of another team — Jeter conning him into taking on the Stanton contract alone should have ended his career
We all get hindsight brilliance is easy. there are few long term big contracts that pan out and Stantons is problematic even if Yankees got him early and he had just been MVP.
Its an interesting contract/extension as it now enters a high three year span then drops.
As for salary cap I put a question mark there as perhaps you might added some insight but instead take the low brow route. The tax structure in baseball does permit teams to go over but the price can get silly. You do understand that?
And you have to also understand how the owner signs the check not the GM. In your mind you fire a dude as punishment but rarely do you take the context of the moment and how the decision might be made. Cashman might have objected to it. You don’t know do you? Owners often see stars as money makers leaving more of a challange for the GM to fill the roster with reduced resources. Having stanton hitting behind Judge is a hell of thing for him and helped him achieve his breakout season.
Fans like you see blame and canonize Gene Michael as a single force. I won’t take a thing away from his contributions but its also important to recognize how good he worked with Cashman to create what they did.
Scouting of players is an artform and luck factors. Read a few articles about Judge and how he morphed from high school into JR college to become a legit prospect. never read Micheal was part of the process. Was he in the room when the scouts presented their reports to those in charge and was part of the process? Sure, why not. Yankees drafted him. Not one man.
Simple, Hal signs the checks and approves the big stuff. And lets not forget Randy Levine, president of the team. Then you have Cashman.
Very frustating when you have a team on historic path then derail in august.
Teams make mistakes as has Cashman. He also made some brilliant moves. Take it in stride. At some point it. Will be time to go. Still young at 55 years old and has been GM/VP for 24 years.
Cashman is going to go down as the greatest GM of our time, for those thinking cash is going to get fired your out of your mind, he’s part of the Steinbrenner family he’ll retire a yankee and again go down as the GOAT…. Now has he made mistakes of course he has but he’s also pulled off some of the most brilliant moves. My favorite this year was all the criticism he received for trading Monty, one of the most inconsistent pitchers on the team for what will become a fan favorite in Bader. People love to mention how good Monty was when he was traded to the cards but fail to mention he was god awful he was after his hot start for the cards. Now trading JP Sears for Montas, that will probably go down as an awful trade. Sears is too talented to trade for an end of a rotation pitcher.
Stanton is on the wrong side of 30 but when the trade was made people thought it was a gift from Jeter. Looking at the trade for what we traded it was a gift, especially considering no salary cap in baseball things haven’t gone as planned. We missed our window of prime with the players we have, I don’t think anyone thought the yanks were going to do what we did at the beginning of the season. I honestly thought this year was going to be a fire sale year.
Can’t blame cash for Hal having tight pockets, Cash can only do what he can with what Hal will give him. Hal was given everything his whole life most wealthy children that are given the keys hold tight what they have, he will never be the giver that his father was, for he probably has no talent or work ethic. He is easily content as he’s been his whole life. He had no problems and never will work hard to create a winner. He’s was handed the greatest sports franchise of our time he’s basically the James Dolan of baseball without the overstepping that crushed the Knicks for years.
Don’t blame cash if judge leaves blame Hal.
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