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Estimated range of all our 1st round picks for the next few years?
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martin
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7/28/2022  3:03 PM
SergioNYK wrote:
martin wrote:
SergioNYK wrote:I will always expect the worst with this franchise (20 years of evidence) so I don't feel good at all about surrendering unprotected picks 3-7 years from now. Chances are likely 90% of the current roster will be gone so how can you take that risk? Especially when you're trading for a player who is NOT an MVP level franchise changing player.

I don't mean to sound flippant, but why do you bother watching or following the Knicks?

If your take is that the team sucks and will continue to suck for no apparent reason, why bother?

The Knicks FO is completely different as of 2+ years ago and have acted completely different than previous FO's. They are a team that is stacked with assets and decent young players. Literally one of only a handful of teams that is in the market to be able to trade for a semi star.

I'm not one of those doom and gloom everything and everyone sucks fans! I get great joy out of watching RJ, Obi, IQ, Grimes, Sims and I also support Thibs! The only aspects of this current team I'm pessimistic about are Randle and Fournier. I don't see them changing for the better. Especially Randle.

As far giving this front office the benefit of doubt, I'm not there yet. Aside from drafting 'pretty good, not great' what have they done? We got gentlemen swept against Atlanta in the pandemic year and we were mediocre last year. They had an awful offseason last summer and haven't really made any big move aside from Brunson who I do like but we'll wait and see if he moves he needle much.

And let's see first if these so-called assets can get us something. Just because I do not blindly support the team 110% and already trust Leon and co. doesn't mean I'm not fan!

In a vacuum, you don't think going from a 21 win team (and this wasnt the Steph Curry with Klay are out for the year and no one is left type bad season) to 4th seed is not very much? I get that it may have been during COVID but every team had the same challenges.

And you don't have to give any front office the benefit of doubt, you just have to assess them, doesn't seem like you are actually doing that.

IMO you are very much a doom and gloom fan

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Philc1
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7/29/2022  11:19 AM    LAST EDITED: 7/29/2022  11:22 AM
Rose created cap room to sign a much needed legit starting pg while also getting back future picks (albeit range protected but still). Overall it was brilliant maneuvering on his part and way more preferable than whatever mediocre wing prospect we would have drafted at 11 that was going to sit on the bench next 3 years doing nothing
Nalod
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7/29/2022  11:54 AM
Dallas read Brunsons value wrong and the market for him. knicks ability to create cap space to pay up too.
Not everything you say is wrong Philc. I might add Cam Reddish could be as good or better than any wing we could have drafted in the short term. That is still an option.
Regardless, as currently constructed,

EF
Brunson
RJ

As our wing/back court. Personally I don’t see any trade with Utah happening direct or indirect without EF leaving the knicks. My take is Knicks value Grimes more then IQ. Utah might also.

Estimated range of all our 1st round picks for the next few years?

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