Nalod wrote:Triple, He should have enough money saved to cover his cobra costs and do all you said just to stay out of jail if proven guilty.
I suppose your views in the past freely objectifying women as you have would leave a bit short on the prism that would be understanding.

I'm a good basketball analyst. That would be true anywhere. Literally anywhere.

With due diligence, the Knicks might find that Miles Bridges and his personal life is a complete disaster zone equal to what's being hurled in social media right now.

Or maybe not.

I don't make too many touts on this board, nor do I suggest too many draft pick targets nor trade targets. But when I do, they count.

If there is more to this story than meets the eye, there might be a lot of hidden value here for this team in terms of a personnel decision. I'm not saying Bridges is innocent. I'm not saying he's guilty ( but so far it doesn't look good). I'm saying due diligence.

As for the PR, the way to do it, if the Knicks are going to do it, is to time it so that another story swallows it up. For example, the Supreme Court made a ruling about gun laws that was controversial, then not long after the abortion issue came out and no one was talking about guns anymore. I'm not making this a political thread, I'm saying if you have to push bad news to the public and your fan base, time it so that you know uglier news comes out soon afterwards that dominates the national discussion. What I just described is exactly in Leon Rose's wheelhouse. I'm not saying he should do it, I'm saying he's skilled enough at this part of the "game" to do it if he wanted to do it.

So TPercy is right, I do know exactly how to spin this if it needed to be massaged into the general public. But lots of teams know how to do this, it's part of their job and they have to do this kind of stuff all the time.

Are you asking me if I buy into the concept of the "Believe All Women" mantra? My take is the same - due diligence. If someone says they are being abused, hear them out, investigate it, and find out. Dig for the truth of the matter. So am I going to say believe everyone blindly? I'm going to say "Listen Carefully With Human Empathy And Evaluate With Full Context"

I'll say this much, if I was in Leon Rose's shoes, and I can do a quick vetting of the situation and it comes up with a workable situation, I'd sign Miles Bridges to an inexpensive long term contract. High Risk/High Reward situation.

You like to take personal shots at myself and Briggs. It's your thing. But also you want to virtue signal about objectivity. Listen, due diligence doesn't make the Knicks complicit. It makes them as practical investigators into a complex situation.

I suppose we ask what is the leagues role here and as an employer what is charlotte or any teams role here? Enable fruther because he possesses a rare talent and pay him while he for the team to personally gain? If you do exhibit distain for women in pubic comments and you were in a position of authority as an employee of the knicks you would be scrutinized by fans, other employees, and sponsers.

I have a wife and daughter. If you don’t have positive experiences with women or have women in your life that you are protective of you might not understand a certain perspective.

ESOMKnicks wrote:Nah, screw that. Even if it turns out that the wife was whoring around with other guys while he was on the road, and the kids ended up not being biologically his, I think he is just not that good or needed by our team to get into such a complicated scheme. Spree he ain't. Let some other team reclaim him.

Okay, I take it back, stats-wise this guy is actually better than Spree at the same age. Wonder why he has not been voted an All-Star yet.

In a court of law domestic violence is never justified. In a court of public opinion (and my own personal opinion) the surrounding circumstances matter. If he has been a good husband otherwise, and his wife has been cheating or humiliating him to no end, then I would not mind having him on the team.

The mouthpiece throwing incidents, not pretty, but not such a big deal either. Steph Curry also used to do it, and that did not tarnish his nice guy image.

ESOMKnicks wrote:

ESOMKnicks wrote:Nah, screw that. Even if it turns out that the wife was whoring around with other guys while he was on the road, and the kids ended up not being biologically his, I think he is just not that good or needed by our team to get into such a complicated scheme. Spree he ain't. Let some other team reclaim him.

Okay, I take it back, stats-wise this guy is actually better than Spree at the same age. Wonder why he has not been voted an All-Star yet.

In a court of law domestic violence is never justified. In a court of public opinion (and my own personal opinion) the surrounding circumstances matter. If he has been a good husband otherwise, and his wife has been cheating or humiliating him to no end, then I would not mind having him on the team.

The mouthpiece throwing incidents, not pretty, but not such a big deal either. Steph Curry also used to do it, and that did not tarnish his nice guy image.

No way. It's totally cool for a woman to get acquitted for killing her abusive husband. It happens all the time.

If your wife is cheating or humiliating you just get a divorce. Not sure where you are going there.

SergioNYK wrote:I'm gonna bite my tongue here cause I don't wanna get banned. I'll just say character matters. Especially when you're trying to repair the reputation of this team and establish a culture.

And your an entertainment company selling a product. If it appears Charlotte is rescinding the Qualified offer he is a free agent. Seems as if the league would suspend him while his legal issues are sorted out.

The court of public opinon does matter because the NBA sell tickets to them. In the past these things were less important as it was kept hush hush. Now its not. Some feel that its overly sensitive and if Trump can grab Pussies why we being all sensitive to it. Im not hear to school anyone or the morality if it.

If Miles Bridges had a contact there is a protocal for this via the CBA and the union. Fair or not it is what it is. Im not verse on it so if anyone wants to chime in. But he does not. His employer has cut him loose.
This puts them in a bad spot as they drafted and developed this kid and he allowed to play a free agent. Does he get mad at hornets for turning their back or accept that he owes them something? Not an easy situation for anyone to digest. I won’t pretend I know this dude or paint him typical.

Triple, from a talent gathering stand point is not incorrect. something the old Oakland Raiders would have done but it was swept under the rug then. Fans/society as a whole does not dismiss this as it might have in the past. The court of law will sort this out.

ESOMKnicks wrote:

gradyandrew wrote:

ESOMKnicks wrote:

ESOMKnicks wrote:Nah, screw that. Even if it turns out that the wife was whoring around with other guys while he was on the road, and the kids ended up not being biologically his, I think he is just not that good or needed by our team to get into such a complicated scheme. Spree he ain't. Let some other team reclaim him.

Okay, I take it back, stats-wise this guy is actually better than Spree at the same age. Wonder why he has not been voted an All-Star yet.

In a court of law domestic violence is never justified. In a court of public opinion (and my own personal opinion) the surrounding circumstances matter. If he has been a good husband otherwise, and his wife has been cheating or humiliating him to no end, then I would not mind having him on the team.

The mouthpiece throwing incidents, not pretty, but not such a big deal either. Steph Curry also used to do it, and that did not tarnish his nice guy image.

No way. It's totally cool for a woman to get acquitted for killing her abusive husband. It happens all the time.

If your wife is cheating or humiliating you just get a divorce. Not sure where you are going there.

Yes, and as punishment for her cheating you also hand over to her your kids, at least half of your assets, plus commit to support her lifestyle from there on.

So, where I am going with this is that I might find some understanding for a person who may lose his $*it when facing such enviable prospects.

You can get mad, lose your s***, fine- nothing wrong with getting angry. How on earth do you leap from that to choking/punching/hitting your wife AND in front of you kids is okay/ understandable. Pathetic. If you can't control your rage, get out of the f***ing situation and don't beat your partner, you are not the f***ing victim. People who physically abuse their partners are pathetic- the "oh I couldn't control my rage" is total BS- do you think if their partners were twice the size of them and twice as strong, they'd still have trouble containing their rage?

SergioNYK wrote:I'm gonna bite my tongue here cause I don't wanna get banned. I'll just say character matters. Especially when you're trying to repair the reputation of this team and establish a culture.

Sergio
Speak your peace. I'm OK with it. I've never shied away from people speaking their peace.

Back to Miles Bridges, there aren't a ton of teams out there with cap space left. Also Charlotte has to account for the odds of drawing in key free agents in general( not that likely) So holding onto Bridges with a qualifying offer and letting him stew and hiding him for a while might be an OK strategy. But they might still rescind and cut him.

You are absolutely correct. Character does matter. We also don't know the entire story of this domestic violence situation. Obviously it doesn't look good. But it's still worth investigating.