wargames wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Unless there is a chance for a deal to get us an all-star. We could use EF's 3pt shooting next season. Broke Stark's record. Helps draw the defense further out. More room for Brunson to work, among others.

Yeah but Grimes could do that and defends better. This team was a four seed based on defense, and Fournier in the starting lineup isn't cutting it. Plus with Brunson here there will be less shots overall. I am not saying dump his contract, but see if there is a better 2-way player on the market and move him.

I would say just swap him with Grimes, but he is paid too much to be coming off the bench behind a guy on his rookie contract.

Thibs is the coach and he cares about winning, probably a whole lot more than you or i.

He will start Grimes if he legit earns it. And the FO won't care if Fournier is off the bench or not playing, as long as this team is winning (and making Dolan happy!)

franco12 wrote:

wargames wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Unless there is a chance for a deal to get us an all-star. We could use EF's 3pt shooting next season. Broke Stark's record. Helps draw the defense further out. More room for Brunson to work, among others.

Yeah but Grimes could do that and defends better. This team was a four seed based on defense, and Fournier in the starting lineup isn't cutting it. Plus with Brunson here there will be less shots overall. I am not saying dump his contract, but see if there is a better 2-way player on the market and move him.

I would say just swap him with Grimes, but he is paid too much to be coming off the bench behind a guy on his rookie contract.

Thibs is the coach and he cares about winning, probably a whole lot more than you or i.

He will start Grimes if he legit earns it. And the FO won't care if Fournier is off the bench or not playing, as long as this team is winning (and making Dolan happy!)

Where was this vibe when Thibs was playing crap vets in front of the youth before or when Thibs was forced to play Kemba and everyone knew he hated Kemba? The smart move is they move Fournier for a better 2-way wing now and make that legit playoff push they have wanted too for a while.

franco12 wrote:

wargames wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Unless there is a chance for a deal to get us an all-star. We could use EF's 3pt shooting next season. Broke Stark's record. Helps draw the defense further out. More room for Brunson to work, among others.

Yeah but Grimes could do that and defends better. This team was a four seed based on defense, and Fournier in the starting lineup isn't cutting it. Plus with Brunson here there will be less shots overall. I am not saying dump his contract, but see if there is a better 2-way player on the market and move him.

I would say just swap him with Grimes, but he is paid too much to be coming off the bench behind a guy on his rookie contract.

Thibs is the coach and he cares about winning, probably a whole lot more than you or i.

He will start Grimes if he legit earns it. And the FO won't care if Fournier is off the bench or not playing, as long as this team is winning (and making Dolan happy!)

Thats how I see it, as well. Grimes needs to show he can keep hitting 3s, going into his sophomore year. Thats Fournier's bread and butter. Let the cream rise to the top!

GustavBahler wrote:

franco12 wrote:

wargames wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Unless there is a chance for a deal to get us an all-star. We could use EF's 3pt shooting next season. Broke Stark's record. Helps draw the defense further out. More room for Brunson to work, among others.

Yeah but Grimes could do that and defends better. This team was a four seed based on defense, and Fournier in the starting lineup isn't cutting it. Plus with Brunson here there will be less shots overall. I am not saying dump his contract, but see if there is a better 2-way player on the market and move him.

I would say just swap him with Grimes, but he is paid too much to be coming off the bench behind a guy on his rookie contract.

Thibs is the coach and he cares about winning, probably a whole lot more than you or i.

He will start Grimes if he legit earns it. And the FO won't care if Fournier is off the bench or not playing, as long as this team is winning (and making Dolan happy!)

Thats how I see it, as well. Grimes needs to show he can keep hitting 3s, going into his sophomore year. Thats Fournier's bread and butter. Let the cream rise to the top!

He also needs to stay healthy! Fournier played 80 games (shout out to Burkes who played 81, will miss him more than I think we know)

Chandler wrote:i was wondering if Phx would be interested

They coulda had Burks from us who is a similar player with an expiring contract

BigDaddyG wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

Chandler wrote:i was wondering if Phx would be interested

They coulda had Burks from us who is a similar player with an expiring contract

I think they have their eyes set on bigger fish.

The KD Rental?

It'll be absolutely criminal.

{Getting rid of Kemba Walker was the 1st step to regaining our #1 Defense of 2020 and sticking Evan Fournier on the bench and out of the starting 5 would become the 2nd step to featuring a top tier Defense}.

NYKMentality wrote:Send him to the bench because of Evan Fournier starts over Quentin Grimes?

It'll be absolutely criminal.

{Getting rid of Kemba Walker was the 1st step to regaining our #1 Defense of 2020 and sticking Evan Fournier on the bench and out of the starting 5 would become the 2nd step to featuring a top tier Defense}.

Fournier starts over Grimes because he’s better than Grimes.

wargames wrote:

franco12 wrote:

wargames wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Unless there is a chance for a deal to get us an all-star. We could use EF's 3pt shooting next season. Broke Stark's record. Helps draw the defense further out. More room for Brunson to work, among others.

Yeah but Grimes could do that and defends better. This team was a four seed based on defense, and Fournier in the starting lineup isn't cutting it. Plus with Brunson here there will be less shots overall. I am not saying dump his contract, but see if there is a better 2-way player on the market and move him.

I would say just swap him with Grimes, but he is paid too much to be coming off the bench behind a guy on his rookie contract.

Thibs is the coach and he cares about winning, probably a whole lot more than you or i.

He will start Grimes if he legit earns it. And the FO won't care if Fournier is off the bench or not playing, as long as this team is winning (and making Dolan happy!)

Where was this vibe when Thibs was playing crap vets in front of the youth before or when Thibs was forced to play Kemba and everyone knew he hated Kemba? The smart move is they move Fournier for a better 2-way wing now and make that legit playoff push they have wanted too for a while.

One thing.. Grimes is NOT just as good as Fournier. He may have more upside but he's not even close. Fournier has a lot of skills on offense and is much more a complete player.

I like Thibs a lot but how Fournier is used next year will show some coaching chops. Fournier had the highest EFG% on the team behind Obi and of course Mitch. To Thibs credit he took the 3rd most shots (not enough) behind of course our two LOWEST EFG% in RJ/Randle (hopefully that changes as well)

Fournier's defense isnt good but its not in the Jose Calderon zone. He plays hard, hits guys, fights through screens... but we all know its not effective. Fournier's offense is fantastic and why he's paid.

He's got value and it may be the Knicks. We'll see.

seems so long ago!

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/32443145/new-york-knicks-outlast-boston-celtics-wild-albeit-sloppy-double-opener

I like Kuzma a lot, though he’d probably impede the development of Obi as a combo forward.