fishmike wrote:

Chandler wrote:SHarpe and Holmgren should both scare the pants off FOs for different reasons

Is Chet a new version of KD or Shawn Bradly/KP??? 82 games against much bigger more athletic people.

Sharpe being a specimen. So was DSJ and a a host of others. Are you looking at another but different version of Kobe or some guy who was too chicken to test himself against top competition

i also expect San ANtonio and pick someone that everyone else says was way too early or who the heck is he.

should be fun to see it unfold

if you think the bold I am glad you dont scout for the Knicks... there are zero similarities. Those guys are unicorns.

I don't get your drift or hostility? Scout what, AAU tape? he might be the next Kobe or the next DSJ -- who when entering draft was super highly regarded for explosiveness. We have zero idea how he competes against elite talent

are they identical players -- no, they never are. Have we heard these narratives before about super-elite athleticism or measurables, yes

a little history: players with highest vertical (spoiler having the highest vertical has translated poorly) https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/nba-draft-combine-records-vertical-leap-wingspan/sbsxxzatmj1co22uygivusxo#:~:text=NBA%20Draft%20Combine%3A%20Highest%20vertical,previous%20record%20of%2045.5%20inches.

Chandler wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Chandler wrote:SHarpe and Holmgren should both scare the pants off FOs for different reasons

Is Chet a new version of KD or Shawn Bradly/KP??? 82 games against much bigger more athletic people.

Sharpe being a specimen. So was DSJ and a a host of others. Are you looking at another but different version of Kobe or some guy who was too chicken to test himself against top competition

i also expect San ANtonio and pick someone that everyone else says was way too early or who the heck is he.

should be fun to see it unfold

if you think the bold I am glad you dont scout for the Knicks... there are zero similarities. Those guys are unicorns.

I don't get your drift or hostility? Scout what, AAU tape? he might be the next Kobe or the next DSJ -- who when entering draft was super highly regarded for explosiveness. We have zero idea how he competes against elite talent

are they identical players -- no, they never are. Have we heard these narratives before about super-elite athleticism or measurables, yes

a little history: players with highest vertical (spoiler having the highest vertical has translated poorly) https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/nba-draft-combine-records-vertical-leap-wingspan/sbsxxzatmj1co22uygivusxo#:~:text=NBA%20Draft%20Combine%3A%20Highest%20vertical,previous%20record%20of%2045.5%20inches.

Sharpe's Draft Range: Nos. 4-10

If a surprise name can shake up the top four, we're hearing it is Sharpe. There is some buzz about a team in the top four showing extra interest, though it is difficult to picture him going that high, considering general managers are evaluating Sharpe on 2021 AAU tape and workouts.

The Sacramento Kings would make the most sense, given how his shooting/shot-making would fit next to De'Aaron Fox. He's in the conversation for the Detroit Pistons at No. 5 and likely every team picking sixth to 10th. It's difficult to picture him getting past both the San Antonio Spurs and Washington Wizards.

Question is...do you prefer Sharpe over...
Murray
Griffin
Mathurin
Daniels
Branham
Davis
Agbaji

if you are those teams picking 5 to 10.

I just hope there are some surprise picks so that one of those fall to us.

fishmike wrote:

Chandler wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Chandler wrote:SHarpe and Holmgren should both scare the pants off FOs for different reasons

Is Chet a new version of KD or Shawn Bradly/KP??? 82 games against much bigger more athletic people.

Sharpe being a specimen. So was DSJ and a a host of others. Are you looking at another but different version of Kobe or some guy who was too chicken to test himself against top competition

i also expect San ANtonio and pick someone that everyone else says was way too early or who the heck is he.

should be fun to see it unfold

if you think the bold I am glad you dont scout for the Knicks... there are zero similarities. Those guys are unicorns.

I don't get your drift or hostility? Scout what, AAU tape? he might be the next Kobe or the next DSJ -- who when entering draft was super highly regarded for explosiveness. We have zero idea how he competes against elite talent

are they identical players -- no, they never are. Have we heard these narratives before about super-elite athleticism or measurables, yes

a little history: players with highest vertical (spoiler having the highest vertical has translated poorly) https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/nba-draft-combine-records-vertical-leap-wingspan/sbsxxzatmj1co22uygivusxo#:~:text=NBA%20Draft%20Combine%3A%20Highest%20vertical,previous%20record%20of%2045.5%20inches.

Its not hostility.. you writing off Sharpe "because we have seen this before with guys like Dennis Smith" is just lame sorry. They have nothing to do with each other. You can apply the DSJr argument to any prospect who's athletic. Truth is there are very few guys with Sharpe's profile, so you look really close because that's a big whiff if you are wrong.

Sharpe's profile is Tracy McGrady. Sure its a high school comparison but the physical tools and stats compare there. Compare those two and come back to me. DSjr has adequate size at best. Sharpe would have elite size and length.

Let me ask you, what do you honestly know about Sharpe? Rumored 50" vertical leap https://www.nationofblue.com/shaedon-sharpe-posts-highest-vertical-leap-in-nba-history/

what else? Do you have any idea how he performs against elite competition

fishmike wrote:

Chandler wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Chandler wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Chandler wrote:SHarpe and Holmgren should both scare the pants off FOs for different reasons

Is Chet a new version of KD or Shawn Bradly/KP??? 82 games against much bigger more athletic people.

Sharpe being a specimen. So was DSJ and a a host of others. Are you looking at another but different version of Kobe or some guy who was too chicken to test himself against top competition

i also expect San ANtonio and pick someone that everyone else says was way too early or who the heck is he.

should be fun to see it unfold

if you think the bold I am glad you dont scout for the Knicks... there are zero similarities. Those guys are unicorns.

I don't get your drift or hostility? Scout what, AAU tape? he might be the next Kobe or the next DSJ -- who when entering draft was super highly regarded for explosiveness. We have zero idea how he competes against elite talent

are they identical players -- no, they never are. Have we heard these narratives before about super-elite athleticism or measurables, yes

a little history: players with highest vertical (spoiler having the highest vertical has translated poorly) https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/nba-draft-combine-records-vertical-leap-wingspan/sbsxxzatmj1co22uygivusxo#:~:text=NBA%20Draft%20Combine%3A%20Highest%20vertical,previous%20record%20of%2045.5%20inches.

Its not hostility.. you writing off Sharpe "because we have seen this before with guys like Dennis Smith" is just lame sorry. They have nothing to do with each other. You can apply the DSJr argument to any prospect who's athletic. Truth is there are very few guys with Sharpe's profile, so you look really close because that's a big whiff if you are wrong.

Sharpe's profile is Tracy McGrady. Sure its a high school comparison but the physical tools and stats compare there. Compare those two and come back to me. DSjr has adequate size at best. Sharpe would have elite size and length.

I suggest you re-read my post. I didn't write off anyone. I said the prosect would be scary because you don't know what you're getting. I also put Kobe as the upside comparison who was also a HS comparison and i would argue is better than McGrady so i wasn't selling him short on the high side.

Let me ask you, what do you honestly know about Sharpe? Rumored 50" vertical leap https://www.nationofblue.com/shaedon-sharpe-posts-highest-vertical-leap-in-nba-history/

what else? Do you have any idea how he performs against elite competition

we also know he's very long with a 7 foot wingspan. You have to treat him like a HS kid as far as scouting goes but he's STILL going to usually be the best athlete on the floor when he gets here. It will come down to his workouts and temperament for sure.

You are right he's a wild card I'm only scared taking him 1-3.... anything after that is fine. You always role the dice in the NBA draft with a few exceptions of course

Sharpe was also ranked the #1 recruit... he's not a total unknown

My main point was the wild card one and the GM will need some brass ones choosing Chet or Sharpe. Huge potential upside and i'd argue downside (for different reasons).

Do you remember Hamidou Diallo? ANother Kentucky guy with insane athleticism also incredibly highly ranked out of HS and ALSO did not play a game his first year at Kentucky. People told him to go pro. He instead played the next year at Kentucky. Was a second rounder, won a slam dunk contest, NBA career is on thin ice

My suspicions are that Sharpe's team had Diallo's career in mind and made a judgment it's better for him to turn pro now

fishmike wrote:

Chandler wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Chandler wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Chandler wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Chandler wrote:SHarpe and Holmgren should both scare the pants off FOs for different reasons

Is Chet a new version of KD or Shawn Bradly/KP??? 82 games against much bigger more athletic people.

Sharpe being a specimen. So was DSJ and a a host of others. Are you looking at another but different version of Kobe or some guy who was too chicken to test himself against top competition

i also expect San ANtonio and pick someone that everyone else says was way too early or who the heck is he.

should be fun to see it unfold

if you think the bold I am glad you dont scout for the Knicks... there are zero similarities. Those guys are unicorns.

I don't get your drift or hostility? Scout what, AAU tape? he might be the next Kobe or the next DSJ -- who when entering draft was super highly regarded for explosiveness. We have zero idea how he competes against elite talent

are they identical players -- no, they never are. Have we heard these narratives before about super-elite athleticism or measurables, yes

a little history: players with highest vertical (spoiler having the highest vertical has translated poorly) https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/nba-draft-combine-records-vertical-leap-wingspan/sbsxxzatmj1co22uygivusxo#:~:text=NBA%20Draft%20Combine%3A%20Highest%20vertical,previous%20record%20of%2045.5%20inches.

Its not hostility.. you writing off Sharpe "because we have seen this before with guys like Dennis Smith" is just lame sorry. They have nothing to do with each other. You can apply the DSJr argument to any prospect who's athletic. Truth is there are very few guys with Sharpe's profile, so you look really close because that's a big whiff if you are wrong.

Sharpe's profile is Tracy McGrady. Sure its a high school comparison but the physical tools and stats compare there. Compare those two and come back to me. DSjr has adequate size at best. Sharpe would have elite size and length.

I suggest you re-read my post. I didn't write off anyone. I said the prosect would be scary because you don't know what you're getting. I also put Kobe as the upside comparison who was also a HS comparison and i would argue is better than McGrady so i wasn't selling him short on the high side.

Let me ask you, what do you honestly know about Sharpe? Rumored 50" vertical leap https://www.nationofblue.com/shaedon-sharpe-posts-highest-vertical-leap-in-nba-history/

what else? Do you have any idea how he performs against elite competition

we also know he's very long with a 7 foot wingspan. You have to treat him like a HS kid as far as scouting goes but he's STILL going to usually be the best athlete on the floor when he gets here. It will come down to his workouts and temperament for sure.

You are right he's a wild card I'm only scared taking him 1-3.... anything after that is fine. You always role the dice in the NBA draft with a few exceptions of course

Sharpe was also ranked the #1 recruit... he's not a total unknown

My main point was the wild card one and the GM will need some brass ones choosing Chet or Sharpe. Huge potential upside and i'd argue downside (for different reasons).

Do you remember Hamidou Diallo? ANother Kentucky guy with insane athleticism also incredibly highly ranked out of HS and ALSO did not play a game his first year at Kentucky. People told him to go pro. He instead played the next year at Kentucky. Was a second rounder, won a slam dunk contest, NBA career is on thin ice

My suspicions are that Sharpe's team had Diallo's career in mind and made a judgment it's better for him to turn pro now

I do... but he was not ranked nearly as high as Sharpe. Mocks had Diallo mostly in the late first early 2nd. Nobody expects Sharpe to fall out of the lottery.

Teams will know. He's a CAA guy. Would be nice to see us somehow land a guy because he didnt work out for anyone else (like Amare did)

the point i'm making is Diallo was a was pretty damn high HS prospect: 10th overall in 2017. https://www.maxpreps.com/news/ApmUK4jz9kWIB1yJ7XdZjA/top-10-high-school-basketball-prospect-hamidou-diallo-commits-to-kentucky.htm#:~:text=Video%3A%20Hamidou%20Diallo%20highlights&text=247Sports%20has%20the%206%2Dfoot,in%20the%20Class%20of%202017.

That situation is not that far removed from Sharpe's current situation.

If Sharpe slides to us it will be crazy. Might get a top 3 or 4 talent (if we win), or Diallo 2.0 (if he's atheltic but otherwise fool's gold)

Chandler wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Chandler wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Chandler wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Chandler wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Chandler wrote:SHarpe and Holmgren should both scare the pants off FOs for different reasons

Is Chet a new version of KD or Shawn Bradly/KP??? 82 games against much bigger more athletic people.

Sharpe being a specimen. So was DSJ and a a host of others. Are you looking at another but different version of Kobe or some guy who was too chicken to test himself against top competition

i also expect San ANtonio and pick someone that everyone else says was way too early or who the heck is he.

should be fun to see it unfold

if you think the bold I am glad you dont scout for the Knicks... there are zero similarities. Those guys are unicorns.

I don't get your drift or hostility? Scout what, AAU tape? he might be the next Kobe or the next DSJ -- who when entering draft was super highly regarded for explosiveness. We have zero idea how he competes against elite talent

are they identical players -- no, they never are. Have we heard these narratives before about super-elite athleticism or measurables, yes

a little history: players with highest vertical (spoiler having the highest vertical has translated poorly) https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/news/nba-draft-combine-records-vertical-leap-wingspan/sbsxxzatmj1co22uygivusxo#:~:text=NBA%20Draft%20Combine%3A%20Highest%20vertical,previous%20record%20of%2045.5%20inches.

Its not hostility.. you writing off Sharpe "because we have seen this before with guys like Dennis Smith" is just lame sorry. They have nothing to do with each other. You can apply the DSJr argument to any prospect who's athletic. Truth is there are very few guys with Sharpe's profile, so you look really close because that's a big whiff if you are wrong.

Sharpe's profile is Tracy McGrady. Sure its a high school comparison but the physical tools and stats compare there. Compare those two and come back to me. DSjr has adequate size at best. Sharpe would have elite size and length.

I suggest you re-read my post. I didn't write off anyone. I said the prosect would be scary because you don't know what you're getting. I also put Kobe as the upside comparison who was also a HS comparison and i would argue is better than McGrady so i wasn't selling him short on the high side.

Let me ask you, what do you honestly know about Sharpe? Rumored 50" vertical leap https://www.nationofblue.com/shaedon-sharpe-posts-highest-vertical-leap-in-nba-history/

what else? Do you have any idea how he performs against elite competition

we also know he's very long with a 7 foot wingspan. You have to treat him like a HS kid as far as scouting goes but he's STILL going to usually be the best athlete on the floor when he gets here. It will come down to his workouts and temperament for sure.

You are right he's a wild card I'm only scared taking him 1-3.... anything after that is fine. You always role the dice in the NBA draft with a few exceptions of course

Sharpe was also ranked the #1 recruit... he's not a total unknown

My main point was the wild card one and the GM will need some brass ones choosing Chet or Sharpe. Huge potential upside and i'd argue downside (for different reasons).

Do you remember Hamidou Diallo? ANother Kentucky guy with insane athleticism also incredibly highly ranked out of HS and ALSO did not play a game his first year at Kentucky. People told him to go pro. He instead played the next year at Kentucky. Was a second rounder, won a slam dunk contest, NBA career is on thin ice

My suspicions are that Sharpe's team had Diallo's career in mind and made a judgment it's better for him to turn pro now

I do... but he was not ranked nearly as high as Sharpe. Mocks had Diallo mostly in the late first early 2nd. Nobody expects Sharpe to fall out of the lottery.

Teams will know. He's a CAA guy. Would be nice to see us somehow land a guy because he didnt work out for anyone else (like Amare did)

the point i'm making is Diallo was a was pretty damn high HS prospect: 10th overall in 2017. https://www.maxpreps.com/news/ApmUK4jz9kWIB1yJ7XdZjA/top-10-high-school-basketball-prospect-hamidou-diallo-commits-to-kentucky.htm#:~:text=Video%3A%20Hamidou%20Diallo%20highlights&text=247Sports%20has%20the%206%2Dfoot,in%20the%20Class%20of%202017.

That situation is not that far removed from Sharpe's current situation.

If Sharpe slides to us it will be crazy. Might get a top 3 or 4 talent (if we win), or Diallo 2.0 (if he's atheltic but otherwise fool's gold)