martin wrote:

gradyandrew wrote:

martin wrote:I don't mean to sound so blunt but...

Why would the Knicks do this? Especially after that go-around with Kemba?

How does this help the team?

Why would Oladipo think this is a good situation for him?

gradyandrew wrote:I think he could be in the starting lineup:
Oladipo/ Rose/ 1st round pick
Fournier/ IQ/ Grimes
Barrett/ Burks/ Reddish
Randle/ Toppin/ Gibson
Robinson/ Noel/ Sims

Appreciate the honesty!
I think the Knicks will be looking for an upgrade at the point. Brunson appears out of range without working out a sign and trade, costing the Knicks players. The idea here is using the MLE to take a swing at a talented player without giving up assets. I think Oladipo's injury was different, not chronic like Kemba. Adding him to the Knicks could be key to getting a top defense again. He was one of the better point of attack defenders when healthy.
Oladipo does it because of ties to Scott Perry and the opportunity to rebuild his brand in New York.

Oladipo is not a PG, he is a SG.

The last 4 years, these are the total games he has played for the regular season: 36, 19, 33, 8 (plus the playoffs).

His market is the vet min.

He is not a starter.

We have IQ/Rose at PG. With McBride in the wings.

And Burks is suddenly a backup SF? In the past decade, he's played about one full season as a SF.

jrodmc wrote:

martin wrote:

gradyandrew wrote:

martin wrote:I don't mean to sound so blunt but...

Why would the Knicks do this? Especially after that go-around with Kemba?

How does this help the team?

Why would Oladipo think this is a good situation for him?

gradyandrew wrote:I think he could be in the starting lineup:
Oladipo/ Rose/ 1st round pick
Fournier/ IQ/ Grimes
Barrett/ Burks/ Reddish
Randle/ Toppin/ Gibson
Robinson/ Noel/ Sims

Appreciate the honesty!
I think the Knicks will be looking for an upgrade at the point. Brunson appears out of range without working out a sign and trade, costing the Knicks players. The idea here is using the MLE to take a swing at a talented player without giving up assets. I think Oladipo's injury was different, not chronic like Kemba. Adding him to the Knicks could be key to getting a top defense again. He was one of the better point of attack defenders when healthy.
Oladipo does it because of ties to Scott Perry and the opportunity to rebuild his brand in New York.

Oladipo is not a PG, he is a SG.

The last 4 years, these are the total games he has played for the regular season: 36, 19, 33, 8 (plus the playoffs).

His market is the vet min.

He is not a starter.

We have IQ/Rose at PG. With McBride in the wings.

+1
That's what struck me immediately. Why move IQ to SG behind Fournier? He looked as good if not better at the PG position at the end of the season than anyone we had.
If Oladipo is that good defensively, I'm all for sliding him in immediately behind Fournier at the 2. Fournier builds up leads with that three, and then Oladipo can come in and hold the opponent in check.

And Burks is suddenly a backup SF? In the past decade, he's played about one full season as a SF.

Burks could be traded. The roster is not as locked in as we often think it does. One might even jettison DRose if he expressed a desire to content right away.

gradyandrew wrote:

jrodmc wrote:+1
That's what struck me immediately. Why move IQ to SG behind Fournier? He looked as good if not better at the PG position at the end of the season than anyone we had.
If Oladipo is that good defensively, I'm all for sliding him in immediately behind Fournier at the 2. Fournier builds up leads with that three, and then Oladipo can come in and hold the opponent in check.

And Burks is suddenly a backup SF? In the past decade, he's played about one full season as a SF.

I don't get where you are going with this. In 2021-22 Burks played 74% of his minutes as the backup SF in successful lineups of Rose IQ Burks and Obi. The front office signed Kemba on a two year deal because Thibs wanted to keep that lineup. Burks only became starting PG after Kemba was injured.

Not making IQ the starter until the end was also telling- Thibs knows IQs role. You can flip it to Rose as SG and IQ as PG if you like. It seems This philosophy has been pretty consistent- lockdown defense with the first unit and an offensive explosion with the second.

I like Burks, hope we get to keep him somehow. If nothing else, he doesn't remind anyone of Elfrid Payton.

sadistic for proposing it

masochistic if we do it