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Keep Grimes with starters when Barrett is back..
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foosballnick
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2/14/2022  10:29 AM
Jmpasq wrote:
Knixkik wrote:Fournier should eventually be supplanted by Grimes at least going into next year.

Starting 5: Mitch, Randle, Barrett, Grimes and Brunson.

Better defense and shot creation without losing shooting.

I hope we can ship him to Dallas in a Brunson sign and trade. Fournier and their pick back for Brunson. Then try to dump Noel and Burks to open cap room to sign Turner.

Turner
Randle
Barrett
Grimes
Brunson

Jalen Duren
Obi
Reddish
IQ
Rose

Guessing that Brunson will be looking for $20M plus. Dallas might want a player like Quickly back in order to make this work from a Salary perspective - potentially instead of the 1st rounder.

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2/14/2022  10:44 AM
fishmike wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:Who is Grimes? Do you mean H2O.2? With defense!

He has shown he will be a keeper. Seems to be unfazed by the spotlight.
He has earned more minutes. We will see how the biz side affects that as does Thibs loyalty to vets.

He's getting them. Why are people worried? Problem hasnt been RJ/Fournier. Both have had a very good last month and a half. Grimes has played well and is the Thib's goto wing off the bench at this point. Problem remains PG

Concern may be that when Rose comes back those minutes may diminish. Do think Thibs holds him in high regards and will find minutes for him.

100% in terms of PG being our main need. Seems like a recurring topic for us Knick fans.
Curious if the Knicks start giving Deuce some minutes to see if that is an option next year at least as a back up. Know that time will only come if Knicks continue to drop in the standings. Brunson keeps getting talked about but I have seen guys get so hyped that it only leads to disappointment. Like what he has done but wonder if it is due to playing along side one of the best players in the NBA. Still feel he is the best option of what is available. Guess we will see what the cost will be. Which may be paid since there is no other real strong long term options. Given the UFA's available this summer:
ie Wright, Dragic, Beverley, Jones, Bradley, Rondo, Payton, Neto etc.

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2/14/2022  6:11 PM
TLover wrote:Grimes has proven to be a reliable 2-way player who has a handle to take over at PG.. Randle takes up the ball most of the time anyway. Bring Kemba off the bench till D. Rose is back.

Pg: Grimes
SG: Barrett
SF: Fournier
PF: Randle
C: Mitch

PG: Kemba/Rose
SG: Burkes
SF: Reddish
PF: Obi
C: Noel

The Knicks 2nd unit bench lineup started the season off by outscoring 65% of the Knicks opponents, whereas the Knicks starter lineup were only outscoring 30% of their opponents. Coach Thibs solution for the starter lineup was to blame one player in the starter lineup (Kemba). And putting D.Rose in the starter lineup, which D.Rose refused.

Rookie McBride or Kemba are a much better PG than Burks & Randle.
Rookie Grimes are a better SG than Barrett, especially alongside Kemba or McBride.
Cam Reddish 2-Way hustle performance are a better complimentary-player at SF than Barrett, Cam just need a steady lineup he could build chemistry in.
Randle need to start playing as a PF instead of point-forward, plus Randle's minutes need to decrease to receive 24 to 28 min of playing time a game.
MitchRob are owed an $$$ extension, because without him the Knicks chances of winning games drop to 35%.

The tandem of Randle & Barrett has NO chemistry on offense or defense, plus the two players has problem playing at any position, and their abundance of turnovers show poor passing-skills .. And the two players has been the most minute played players on the Knicks roster the past 3 seasons.

Obi Toppin and Quickley need more playing time than 7 to 12 min a game to improve his talent on the court.

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2/14/2022  9:57 PM
foosballnick wrote:
Jmpasq wrote:
Knixkik wrote:Fournier should eventually be supplanted by Grimes at least going into next year.

Starting 5: Mitch, Randle, Barrett, Grimes and Brunson.

Better defense and shot creation without losing shooting.

I hope we can ship him to Dallas in a Brunson sign and trade. Fournier and their pick back for Brunson. Then try to dump Noel and Burks to open cap room to sign Turner.

Turner
Randle
Barrett
Grimes
Brunson

Jalen Duren
Obi
Reddish
IQ
Rose

Guessing that Brunson will be looking for $20M plus. Dallas might want a player like Quickly back in order to make this work from a Salary perspective - potentially instead of the 1st rounder.

Dallas will want their first rounder back in any potential Brunson sign and trade.

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2/14/2022  10:09 PM
Root for Dinwiddie to be very good. Makes them less dependant on Brunson.
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2/15/2022  7:09 AM
fishmike wrote:
Jmpasq wrote:
Knixkik wrote:Fournier should eventually be supplanted by Grimes at least going into next year.

Starting 5: Mitch, Randle, Barrett, Grimes and Brunson.

Better defense and shot creation without losing shooting.

I hope we can ship him to Dallas in a Brunson sign and trade. Fournier and their pick back for Brunson. Then try to dump Noel and Burks to open cap room to sign Turner.

Turner
Randle
Barrett
Grimes
Brunson

Jalen Duren
Obi
Reddish
IQ
Rose

Boy for a guy who bitches about every move your two targets are Turner and Brunson? That is terrible. Neither move the needle or are impact players. Turner is wildly overrated on this forum, has literally been the same player since coming into the league and Brunson is skilled midget. Please... these are the guys you want to lock up? Better off drafting and stocking up on EU prospects until you have a shot to grab a max worthy guy.

A max worthy guy in Free Agency has worked real well. We couldn't even get Lonzo Ball to sign here. Either we get players that fit around Randle better or you tank and trade for Westbrook. I really only see those 2 options. Turner or another center that can stretch the floor and provide rim protection opens up the paint for Randle and Barrett. This team basically plays 4 on 5 on offense. Brunson isn't perfect by any means, but what other PG's are available? This is a horrible draft in general, but for PG's its especially bad. This all comes back to drafting Obi over Haliburton.

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2/15/2022  7:38 AM
Jmpasq wrote:
fishmike wrote:
Jmpasq wrote:
Knixkik wrote:Fournier should eventually be supplanted by Grimes at least going into next year.

Starting 5: Mitch, Randle, Barrett, Grimes and Brunson.

Better defense and shot creation without losing shooting.

I hope we can ship him to Dallas in a Brunson sign and trade. Fournier and their pick back for Brunson. Then try to dump Noel and Burks to open cap room to sign Turner.

Turner
Randle
Barrett
Grimes
Brunson

Jalen Duren
Obi
Reddish
IQ
Rose

Boy for a guy who bitches about every move your two targets are Turner and Brunson? That is terrible. Neither move the needle or are impact players. Turner is wildly overrated on this forum, has literally been the same player since coming into the league and Brunson is skilled midget. Please... these are the guys you want to lock up? Better off drafting and stocking up on EU prospects until you have a shot to grab a max worthy guy.

A max worthy guy in Free Agency has worked real well. We couldn't even get Lonzo Ball to sign here. Either we get players that fit around Randle better or you tank and trade for Westbrook. I really only see those 2 options. Turner or another center that can stretch the floor and provide rim protection opens up the paint for Randle and Barrett. This team basically plays 4 on 5 on offense. Brunson isn't perfect by any means, but what other PG's are available? This is a horrible draft in general, but for PG's its especially bad. This all comes back to drafting Obi over Haliburton.

So, Turner has another year on his current deal, so you can't just dump Noel and Burks and sign Turner. Also, Lonzo was a RFA, so he had to agree to a deal AND the Knicks had to send out stuff to Pelicans and they couldn't.

So those 2 deals aren't reality.

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2/15/2022  11:35 PM
RJ is starting at the 2 and EF was the big free agent signing by Rose and Perry. Grimes is not starting
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2/15/2022  11:36 PM
Nalod wrote:Root for Dinwiddie to be very good. Makes them less dependant on Brunson.

Tyus Jones is a way more realistic plan and might not even need a sign and trade.

Keep Grimes with starters when Barrett is back..

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