Panos wrote:Why is everyone down on Burks. He is not a bad player, he just needs to go back to the bench and not play PG. He fills a role.

I like Burks, I like EF, I like Kemba - but I think the point is in aggregate, they're not contributing to the further development of the franchise, and we have needs that have to be filled somehow, and clearing cap would allow us to try to screw up again

Caseloads wrote:Really don’t want Westbrook - he would ruin the development of the yoots

Could be bought out in the offseason since he would have 1 yr left.

Philc1 wrote:Trade Burks, EF and Walker for Westbrook who has one year left on his deal

No to WB

knicks1248 wrote:

newyorknewyork wrote:Only move to make and makes perfect sense for both teams.

Randle, Fournier, Burks, & Walker to Lakers
Russ, Ariza, Bazemore, Ellington, 2027 first, 2030 first.

Lakers
LA is desperate with not much wiggle room to propel them into contender status to capitalize on Bron's last couple of years. This gives them a big production boost. Randle can go back to his draft roots. Has past chemistry with AD in the frontcourt. Can spot cover for him when he has his routine injury. Playing off of Bron and AD can take a ton of pressure off him. With mins staggered right he can lead or co-lead a 2nd unit. Fournier & Burks are big upgrades over what Ariza, Bazemore & Ellington are providing the Lakers this moment and will thrive playing with stars like Bron & AD. Kemba offers a better fit than what Westbrook is bringing to the table for this team. Good enough 3pt shooter to fill a role. Lakers overall become deeper and more talented. Those later draft picks will hurt, but that's the cost of doing business.

Knicks
NY unloads salaries and frees up the rotation for younger players. Randle is owed $26, $28, $30, & $32mil over the next 4 years and that terrifies me with the rate that this is going. He was horrible his first yr, great in the bubble, terrible in the playoffs, and having a pretty crappy season this yr. When you tally it all up only have a great bubble yr to put stock in. After Knicks waive Ariza, Bazemore & Ellington. Grimes & Reddish should be able to see consistent quality mins. Reddish, Toppin, Mitch can be fully evaluated so decisions can be made on extensions or trade bait by seasons end. Knicks are currently top 10 in the lottery. This deal probably pushes NY to top 5. Those 2 looong play future Laker picks could be GOLD given they will probably suck terribly after Bron and AD retire or move on . And they owe Pelicans a lot of their future pipeline leading up to it. Top5 pick in 2022 use to dangle at SA(Murray) or OKC(SGA), Or use available cap on Brunson if available.

Free up salary to do what, sign some other 2nd tier Player like Randle and Fournier that wont move the needle, draft some other avg role player that wont move the needle.

Play more young players and hire Fizdale to chop trees down and win 17 games, then let those same young player walk or lose value like frank or knox after losing 60 games

We don't have no young studs and RJ is avg 34 minutes, and your suggesting we throw in the towel so we can see Mcbride and Sims play more, two 2nd round picks.

It's crazy for you to even come with this silly IDEA when Both Phil and Mills failed miserably with that same plan..

In order to tank you'll have to fire the Coach and the president.

These 5 lines you wrote tell me that you didn't read past what you bolded. Then you proceeded to push the narrative you are looking to push in typical 1248 fashion. Which is why you get the lack of respect you do for your tired posting.

Example: Westbrook will be on the team with IQ and Rose coming back soon. Mitch, Toppin, Noel, Taj would still be on the roster as well. So how would this specifically lead to Mcbride and Sims who weren't mentioned in my post playing more? When everyone moved directly frees up time and usage for Grimes, Reddish & Toppin, who were specifically mentioned.

A top 5 pick alone has more value and flexibility than anything we currently have on the roster outside of RJ. With the freed up cap and top 5 pick, it can be used to go after someone like Dejuante Murray or SGA. The freed up mins and usage for Reddish & Mitch allows them to be evaluated as long term pieces or trade bait for someone else as the team gets built. Same for IQ & Obi.

Say hypothetically we had to package Obi & #6 pick for Murray. Grimes looked good the rest of the yr and showed to be a keeper. So now Murray, Grimes, RJ are the long term Guard-Wing rotation. Knicks then look to potentially package some combination of IQ, Reddish, Mitch(S&T), 4 2nd round picks in the 2023, 2 2023 future first, in war chest for a big man to pair with that backcourt(Christian Woods?).

The point for Phil and Mills was to be able to stack up a war chest to be able to have the flexibility to make these type of moves. They were in earl stages so didn't have the assets to fall on. Rose is in a position where he can do all those moves and still have all his future picks and cap flexibility.

But your a borderline troll so this will mostly go over your head and you will just troll along pushing the narrative you want to push.

franco12 wrote:

Panos wrote:Why is everyone down on Burks. He is not a bad player, he just needs to go back to the bench and not play PG. He fills a role.

I like Burks, I like EF, I like Kemba - but I think the point is in aggregate, they're not contributing to the further development of the franchise, and we have needs that have to be filled somehow, and clearing cap would allow us to try to screw up again

I like Burks too and his suckage this year has been due to Thibs forcing him to play PG. But his contract sucks

Philc1 wrote:Trade Burks, EF and Walker for Westbrook who has one year left on his deal

F that! Smh

Would much rather get another player on the Lakers... Horton-Tucker. Younger, better and no freaking baggage. Oh did I mention he won't cost 47 million next year. I am good with Randle and EF. Unless we get much much better. Westbrook does not get that done. Walker needs to go, and we need to unload some of our mediocre Center clog.

SkyWalker wrote:My 10 year old son loves EF and his 3 point shooting. He'll be very sad if he gets traded. I don't think EF has been THAT awful. If he played with a good PG he would probably get at least 3-4 more good looks per game and that would be a huge difference for him. His defense is what it is.

Knick Fans hate the French.

BigDaddyG wrote:

Nalod wrote:

SkyWalker wrote:My 10 year old son loves EF and his 3 point shooting. He'll be very sad if he gets traded. I don't think EF has been THAT awful. If he played with a good PG he would probably get at least 3-4 more good looks per game and that would be a huge difference for him. His defense is what it is.

Knick Fans hate the French.

Except Ronny Turiaf. He's cool.

Nice

knicks1248 wrote:

Philc1 wrote:Trade Burks, EF and Walker for Westbrook who has one year left on his deal

dude what is your obsession with WB, a guy who's playing at the lowest level of his career.

The Dude flat out sucks, shooting worst than any player getting his minutes..

Because WB was literally the only semi realistic shot to get rid of the Fournier and Burks contracts