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knicks1248
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2/8/2022  8:43 AM
Cam is a career 38% shooter, and 32% from 3.

Not sure why we would trade 2 1st round picks (knox was picked 9th) for him.

Atl hasn't missed a beat without him, which pretty much tells you the impact he had with them

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Nalod
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2/8/2022  9:04 AM
knicks1248 wrote:Cam is a career 38% shooter, and 32% from 3.

Not sure why we would trade 2 1st round picks (knox was picked 9th) for him.

Atl hasn't missed a beat without him, which pretty much tells you the impact he had with them

so in your brain “not sure why” type statements are “Well, Since I don’t understand it must be stupid thing to do”. Thats how many of us view that.

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2/8/2022  9:34 AM
knicks1248 wrote:Cam is a career 38% shooter, and 32% from 3.

Not sure why we would trade 2 1st round picks (knox was picked 9th) for him.

Atl hasn't missed a beat without him, which pretty much tells you the impact he had with them

We get it. You want to replace the FO ...... again.

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2/8/2022  10:12 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/8/2022  10:13 AM
Nalod wrote:
TheGame wrote:Reddish did not lose us that game. He played decent defense. We lost due to lack of ball movement in 4th and just an inability to hit the open shots we did get. Games like this one and the Lakers game show why having Rose back will make a major difference in our ability to win close games.

and often the opponent gets some credit for executing. Knicks lose, but Jazz won too.
Merciful I fell asleep in the 4th. IQ shot was not falling and he was not able to help in other ways.

Lol I almost fell asleep also. The broadcast was lifeless, even Breen had an off night. I can imagine it’s not easy to step into a Thibs offense. It takes time to acclimate and develop chemistry and find your role. Reddish just came from a team with a PG, we had Burks and IQ last night. He needs playing time.

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2/8/2022  12:19 PM
Nalod wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:Cam is a career 38% shooter, and 32% from 3.

Not sure why we would trade 2 1st round picks (knox was picked 9th) for him.

Atl hasn't missed a beat without him, which pretty much tells you the impact he had with them

so in your brain “not sure why” type statements are “Well, Since I don’t understand it must be stupid thing to do”. Thats how many of us view that.

We live in the moment unfortunately. If Cam had a career day, 1248 would've never posted this thread. And some other optimistic fan (could've been me) would post that the FO is amazing and Cam is the future. Why are knick fans so quick to jump to conclusions on everything and everybody? I believe its a sickness you get when you haven't won a championship longer than most fans been alive. There should be a name for this issue. We all (including 1248) need some counseling.

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2/8/2022  2:24 PM
blkexec wrote:
Nalod wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:Cam is a career 38% shooter, and 32% from 3.

Not sure why we would trade 2 1st round picks (knox was picked 9th) for him.

Atl hasn't missed a beat without him, which pretty much tells you the impact he had with them

so in your brain “not sure why” type statements are “Well, Since I don’t understand it must be stupid thing to do”. Thats how many of us view that.

We live in the moment unfortunately. If Cam had a career day, 1248 would've never posted this thread. And some other optimistic fan (could've been me) would post that the FO is amazing and Cam is the future. Why are knick fans so quick to jump to conclusions on everything and everybody? I believe its a sickness you get when you haven't won a championship longer than most fans been alive. There should be a name for this issue. We all (including 1248) need some counseling.

If Cam had a career best some would say Thibs held him back all along.
Naturally its safe to assume we get all the goodness of Cam........That knox was a bust and the pick we gave would be better than Cam. So its easy to beat anything Cam does. "Open concept whining".

UK is "Group therapy". True that we are all damaged fans.

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2/8/2022  3:29 PM
foosballnick wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:Cam is a career 38% shooter, and 32% from 3.

Not sure why we would trade 2 1st round picks (knox was picked 9th) for him.

Atl hasn't missed a beat without him, which pretty much tells you the impact he had with them

We get it. You want to replace the FO ...... again.

You guys have been through enough losing season to know what it takes to maintain a JOB

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2/8/2022  4:27 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
foosballnick wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:Cam is a career 38% shooter, and 32% from 3.

Not sure why we would trade 2 1st round picks (knox was picked 9th) for him.

Atl hasn't missed a beat without him, which pretty much tells you the impact he had with them

We get it. You want to replace the FO ...... again.

You guys have been through enough losing season to know what it takes to maintain a JOB

I have a job that I've maintained, so I know what it takes to maintain a job. I would think that switching the FO and Coaching Staff every 2 years is not a recipe for success in the NBA.

knicks1248
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2/8/2022  5:29 PM
foosballnick wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
foosballnick wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:Cam is a career 38% shooter, and 32% from 3.

Not sure why we would trade 2 1st round picks (knox was picked 9th) for him.

Atl hasn't missed a beat without him, which pretty much tells you the impact he had with them

We get it. You want to replace the FO ...... again.

You guys have been through enough losing season to know what it takes to maintain a JOB

I have a job that I've maintained, so I know what it takes to maintain a job. I would think that switching the FO and Coaching Staff every 2 years is not a recipe for success in the NBA.

Are you also a coach/GM/President for a professional sports team.

Well I'm assuming that whatever you do, your producing which is why you can maintain a job.

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2/8/2022  6:45 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
foosballnick wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
foosballnick wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:Cam is a career 38% shooter, and 32% from 3.

Not sure why we would trade 2 1st round picks (knox was picked 9th) for him.

Atl hasn't missed a beat without him, which pretty much tells you the impact he had with them

We get it. You want to replace the FO ...... again.

You guys have been through enough losing season to know what it takes to maintain a JOB

I have a job that I've maintained, so I know what it takes to maintain a job. I would think that switching the FO and Coaching Staff every 2 years is not a recipe for success in the NBA.

Are you also a coach/GM/President for a professional sports team.

Well I'm assuming that whatever you do, your producing which is why you can maintain a job.

Man, you and your assumptions.

I am an advocate of the Cam Reddish trade because I think it made some sense. Knox would be an RFA this coming year and we are unlikely to make a Qualifying Offer. Cam has another year of eligibility and has a better fit as a SF than Knox. Knox was sitting as 4th string PF behind Randle, Toppin and Gibson. Cam is third string SF with a bit more upside to take that position with a length that no other Knicks have at the SF.

Cam has issues. His development is lagging behind Barrett and he lost significant time to injury. He is still young and can be expected to recover. He is 22 and appears to be missing something at the NBA level. Thing is, he commits on defense and appears to have a clean stroke that hasn't yet shown up in his 3pt shot. Generally FT% and 3Pt percentage are correlated. He has an elite FT% for a guy with a 7 foot wingspan and yet has struggled to break 33% 3pt shooting in his career.

This is the epitome of a project option. The Knox/Reddish swap straight up bought us another year of a young player that hasn't developed (and may never) and better fits this roster. The cost of the Charlotte pick is a question whether 1 year of a project is worth a pick likely to vest this year.

I see this as somewhat of a symbolic gesture of this becoming RJ's team. I only know that RJ and Cam played together at Duke and appear to be fond of each other. I think that friendly face and change of scenery might be good for Cam's development (same goes for Knox).

Last, this trade was Knox and likely Charlotte's pick this year for an extra year of control on Reddish AND ATL's 2025 second round pick. We traded back to 2025 2nd round for an extra year of control on a young player.

A comment on 2nd rd picks - They can be more valuable than late 1st round picks. These drafts keep getting deeper. There is talent in the 2nd round often - there is less opportunity then there is talent.

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2/8/2022  11:48 PM
Supposedly Thibs didn’t want the FO to trade for Reddish
can everyone STFU about playing Sham Reddish?

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