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Nalod
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2/4/2022  3:02 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
foosballnick wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:This has been well documented across the NBA...

Berman is reporting the knicks are looking for a 2 for one trade, and the key word is "LOOKING"

Which means they made this trade with no counter in mind, no other trades on the back burner. If the trade deadline passes with no movement, this will go down as the one of the stupidest trades in KNICKS HISTORY..

Holy Histrionics Batman!

Worse than the Curry Trade? The Bargnani Trade? The McDyess Trade? Trading for Jalen Rose? Eisley? Trading away Spree? Steve Francis? Trading away Ewing and taking on $90M of salary cap for 4 years?

I didn't say the worse, I said one of the worst ever, and trust me, there's a long list of trades that have set us back yrs.

backtracking is never a good look. You won’t really know how a trade works out unti:

1. Said player is in rotation
2. Trade deadline comes and goes
3. draft
4. Free agency
5. his contract status changes
6. Did we repurpose him in another trade
7. did we make trades to open up playing time
8. Look in hindsight 3 years his development either on the team or elsewhere
9. how did the team perform in the time after.

OR you can set your hair on fire freaking the **** out like a damn spazz.

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franco12
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2/4/2022  3:53 PM
so after what we got in the draft with the players we have - Grimes, Jokubaitis, McBride and Sims, the the Knick front office had simply lost the paper work on the Charlotte First rounder, we'd still have come out of that draft winners.

Knox was gone after this year. Cam is under contract for 2 more years.

I don't understand how this is that hard to comprehend.

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2/4/2022  4:03 PM
Nalod wrote:
martin wrote:
Nalod wrote:Some play Chess, and those that play checkers.
Just becuase you don’t understand something does not mean its a dumb move. Its just not apparent.
Reddish has played mostly garbage time and has not enough time to practice and blend in.
Also, he is a young 22. I suppose the question is what does the FO think of him as an asset on the court or as a trade not just this month but this season and beyond.
Is it really incomprehensible that the knicks might have a plan that exceeds the trade deadline and this season? I suppose that being “Patient” means drafting conceptual players to fill conceptual needs.
Or does this conflict with fans youtube highlight gullibility thinking those never miss clips translate to fantastic NBA careers?
Might it be better to comment until after the draft deadline? There is a reason for him to be here. We just don’t know why. Does that make it dumb?
Waith the season and see if we sit Burks and give minutes if we not playoff bound?
Maybe, we are after a player and part of the package is “We’ll do it, if you can figure a way to get Reddish in the deal”? Thats plausible. Or, “Zion can’t do a thing until healthy, but he tells his agent that he really wants to be in NYC with his dukie’s and would consider knicks under that circumstance”. Thats plausible. Personally I think thats a big stretch.
Its plausible that we make a big deal he is in it, or we want him in the aftermath as not to leave thy cupboard bare like we did with the Melo deal. (JROD, relax, its not a slight on him, it was on FO not having enough around him!)
Or on someones whiteboard in MSG desires a long athletic 3 to play with randle and RJ or off the bench for quality minutes. Might not be for this season.
Chess, a game not for short attention spans.

What do you call it when someone can't keep up with Connect4?

1248

Have to admit I LOL'd

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2/4/2022  4:20 PM
franco12 wrote:so after what we got in the draft with the players we have - Grimes, Jokubaitis, McBride and Sims, the the Knick front office had simply lost the paper work on the Charlotte First rounder, we'd still have come out of that draft winners.

Knox was gone after this year. Cam is under contract for 2 more years.

I don't understand how this is that hard to comprehend.

Because some people need instant gratification and only see players and moves as either absolutely amazing or absolute disaster and nothing in between

Nalod
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2/4/2022  10:50 PM
foosballnick wrote:
Nalod wrote:
martin wrote:
Nalod wrote:Some play Chess, and those that play checkers.
Just becuase you don’t understand something does not mean its a dumb move. Its just not apparent.
Reddish has played mostly garbage time and has not enough time to practice and blend in.
Also, he is a young 22. I suppose the question is what does the FO think of him as an asset on the court or as a trade not just this month but this season and beyond.
Is it really incomprehensible that the knicks might have a plan that exceeds the trade deadline and this season? I suppose that being “Patient” means drafting conceptual players to fill conceptual needs.
Or does this conflict with fans youtube highlight gullibility thinking those never miss clips translate to fantastic NBA careers?
Might it be better to comment until after the draft deadline? There is a reason for him to be here. We just don’t know why. Does that make it dumb?
Waith the season and see if we sit Burks and give minutes if we not playoff bound?
Maybe, we are after a player and part of the package is “We’ll do it, if you can figure a way to get Reddish in the deal”? Thats plausible. Or, “Zion can’t do a thing until healthy, but he tells his agent that he really wants to be in NYC with his dukie’s and would consider knicks under that circumstance”. Thats plausible. Personally I think thats a big stretch.
Its plausible that we make a big deal he is in it, or we want him in the aftermath as not to leave thy cupboard bare like we did with the Melo deal. (JROD, relax, its not a slight on him, it was on FO not having enough around him!)
Or on someones whiteboard in MSG desires a long athletic 3 to play with randle and RJ or off the bench for quality minutes. Might not be for this season.
Chess, a game not for short attention spans.

What do you call it when someone can't keep up with Connect4?

1248

Have to admit I LOL'd

No shame in that!

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2/5/2022  12:14 AM
Nalod wrote:Some play Chess, and those that play checkers.
Just becuase you don’t understand something does not mean its a dumb move. Its just not apparent.
Reddish has played mostly garbage time and has not enough time to practice and blend in.
Also, he is a young 22. I suppose the question is what does the FO think of him as an asset on the court or as a trade not just this month but this season and beyond.
Is it really incomprehensible that the knicks might have a plan that exceeds the trade deadline and this season? I suppose that being “Patient” means drafting conceptual players to fill conceptual needs.
Or does this conflict with fans youtube highlight gullibility thinking those never miss clips translate to fantastic NBA careers?
Might it be better to comment until after the draft deadline? There is a reason for him to be here. We just don’t know why. Does that make it dumb?
Waith the season and see if we sit Burks and give minutes if we not playoff bound?
Maybe, we are after a player and part of the package is “We’ll do it, if you can figure a way to get Reddish in the deal”? Thats plausible. Or, “Zion can’t do a thing until healthy, but he tells his agent that he really wants to be in NYC with his dukie’s and would consider knicks under that circumstance”. Thats plausible. Personally I think thats a big stretch.
Its plausible that we make a big deal he is in it, or we want him in the aftermath as not to leave thy cupboard bare like we did with the Melo deal. (JROD, relax, its not a slight on him, it was on FO not having enough around him!)
Or on someones whiteboard in MSG desires a long athletic 3 to play with randle and RJ or off the bench for quality minutes. Might not be for this season.
Chess, a game not for short attention spans.

"Or on someones whiteboard in MSG desires a long athletic 3 to play with randle and RJ or off the bench for quality minutes."

Most likely its as simple as this.

Hawks had him on the market and someone in the scouting department liked him. The guy has defensive upside. Size. And can stretch the floor. Like you said he's young, showed some promise in ATL's playoff run, and looks to be a nice investment for a 1st round pick which may or may not end up being anything special considering how good charlotte might end up being.

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2/5/2022  3:15 AM
Leon & Perry gonna get caught out there just like a few of the other ex-GM
Dolan's Fam watch all the $$$ moves of the Knicks & Rangers GMs

Knox was the 9th pick AND Cam was a 10th pick .. When you look at both players performance, they both are equal.
How much does it cost for a late first-rounder in the draft? $2M or $1.5M
Leon & Perry got something ($$$) under the table.

The Atlanta Hawks went on a 7 game win streak after the team kicked Cam out of the locker room.
Plus the Hawks put a end to the NBA #1 winning team Suns 11 game winning streak.
I do understand the reason Cam's not getting any playing time, what I don't understand is trading Knox and a first rounder for a guy not better than Knox.

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2/5/2022  7:58 AM
Kemet wrote:Leon & Perry gonna get caught out there just like a few of the other ex-GM
Dolan's Fam watch all the $$$ moves of the Knicks & Rangers GMs

Knox was the 9th pick AND Cam was a 10th pick .. When you look at both players performance, they both are equal.
How much does it cost for a late first-rounder in the draft? $2M or $1.5M
Leon & Perry got something ($$$) under the table.

The Atlanta Hawks went on a 7 game win streak after the team kicked Cam out of the locker room.
Plus the Hawks put a end to the NBA #1 winning team Suns 11 game winning streak.
I do understand the reason Cam's not getting any playing time, what I don't understand is trading Knox and a first rounder for a guy not better than Knox.

Knicks see potential in reddish where they didn’t in Knox.
Is that potential fulfilled? Future will answer.

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2/5/2022  8:17 AM
Nalod wrote:
Kemet wrote:Leon & Perry gonna get caught out there just like a few of the other ex-GM
Dolan's Fam watch all the $$$ moves of the Knicks & Rangers GMs

Knox was the 9th pick AND Cam was a 10th pick .. When you look at both players performance, they both are equal.
How much does it cost for a late first-rounder in the draft? $2M or $1.5M
Leon & Perry got something ($$$) under the table.

The Atlanta Hawks went on a 7 game win streak after the team kicked Cam out of the locker room.
Plus the Hawks put a end to the NBA #1 winning team Suns 11 game winning streak.
I do understand the reason Cam's not getting any playing time, what I don't understand is trading Knox and a first rounder for a guy not better than Knox.

Knicks see potential in reddish where they didn’t in Knox.
Is that potential fulfilled? Future will answer.

that, and maybe RJ is the future and Cam is an old buddy- and who knows, maybe there is a move afoot to get Zion.

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2/5/2022  8:24 AM
smackeddog wrote:
franco12 wrote:so after what we got in the draft with the players we have - Grimes, Jokubaitis, McBride and Sims, the the Knick front office had simply lost the paper work on the Charlotte First rounder, we'd still have come out of that draft winners.

Knox was gone after this year. Cam is under contract for 2 more years.

I don't understand how this is that hard to comprehend.

Because some people need instant gratification and only see players and moves as either absolutely amazing or absolute disaster and nothing in between

Exactly. It’s the same concept where if you’re not a title contender, many believe you blow it up and bottom out.

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2/5/2022  9:23 AM
franco12 wrote:
Nalod wrote:
Kemet wrote:Leon & Perry gonna get caught out there just like a few of the other ex-GM
Dolan's Fam watch all the $$$ moves of the Knicks & Rangers GMs

Knox was the 9th pick AND Cam was a 10th pick .. When you look at both players performance, they both are equal.
How much does it cost for a late first-rounder in the draft? $2M or $1.5M
Leon & Perry got something ($$$) under the table.

The Atlanta Hawks went on a 7 game win streak after the team kicked Cam out of the locker room.
Plus the Hawks put a end to the NBA #1 winning team Suns 11 game winning streak.
I do understand the reason Cam's not getting any playing time, what I don't understand is trading Knox and a first rounder for a guy not better than Knox.

Knicks see potential in reddish where they didn’t in Knox.
Is that potential fulfilled? Future will answer.

that, and maybe RJ is the future and Cam is an old buddy- and who knows, maybe there is a move afoot to get Zion.

Or just an uptick in the locker room chemistry. The past is in the past but it still stings to think we had Knox miles and Mikal in the same gym going head to head and convinced ourselves on Kk. Of course ther was shai etc too but the same friggin gym

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2/5/2022  10:07 AM
If They can’t make room for him via a trade and Thibs keeps this up. It’s a legitimate fiasco. Right now it’s more or a wait and see situation.
The algorithm gives and the algorithm takes away
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2/5/2022  1:02 PM
wargames wrote:If They can’t make room for him via a trade and Thibs keeps this up. It’s a legitimate fiasco. Right now it’s more or a wait and see situation.

at the end players play and players execute or don’t.
Knox might not have fit the bill or Thibs which is ok given he inherited him.
Did He want Redish? Did he not? What is the timeline for labeling a fiasco?
One week? One month? ONe season? Knox had little value to us. Is Redish better at SF in the next two years than anyone available in the bottom 16 picks that the charlotte pick represented?
That we have Grimes coming and RJ as near stud, how does this all fall into place?
Lets visit this in two years?

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2/6/2022  10:10 AM
Our perimeter D sucks and arguably our 2 best perimeter defenders were on the bench second half of last night while Monk was getting wide open looks
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2/6/2022  11:20 AM
Wait until next season when they draft some more kids to not play either…
The algorithm gives and the algorithm takes away
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2/10/2022  8:54 PM
Feel free to bash the **** out the front office. Unbelievable they didn't trade away a wing to open up playing time for the young players
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