[ IMAGES: Images ON turn off | ACCOUNT: User Status is LOCKED why? ]

2022 Trade deadline musings (and trades)……….
Author Thread
Nalod
Posts: 71087
Alba Posts: 155
Joined: 12/24/2003
Member: #508
USA
2/5/2022  1:41 PM
Chandler wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
Chandler wrote:I find the Powell trade interesting. We supposedly coveted him and I can’t imagine we couldn’t offer a better package.

Pure speculation but it certainly is consistent with the notion we are looking at a bigger deal. Also consistent w notion Damian may be traded as he can’t be happy w the talent exodus. Not saying Damian is coming here but I wouldn’t be surprised either.

Length and size of the contract put us off- Knicks front office has their price and won't exceed it, same reason we (thankfully) gave up on Dinwiddie and Hayward

if that's the basis and they're exercising good discipline, then great. that said, they had all the reason for a mild panic purchase with the way this season is going.

somewhat ironic that Keon Johnson was our draft pick

In the end if Keon pans out the Blazers got cap space, longer and younger. If they did not see a future with Trent jr/Powell its a good move. This season is a wash for them.
Kind of move that allows a domino effect to begin a process of restoration. Small moves add up. This one does not move the dial. They dug a hole for themselves and have to start somewhere. With Olshy gone, is it a new direction or was this the plan all along?

AUTOADVERT
wargames
Posts: 22833
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 5/27/2015
Member: #6053

2/5/2022  6:18 PM
Nalod wrote:
Chandler wrote:
smackeddog wrote:
Chandler wrote:I find the Powell trade interesting. We supposedly coveted him and I can’t imagine we couldn’t offer a better package.

Pure speculation but it certainly is consistent with the notion we are looking at a bigger deal. Also consistent w notion Damian may be traded as he can’t be happy w the talent exodus. Not saying Damian is coming here but I wouldn’t be surprised either.

Length and size of the contract put us off- Knicks front office has their price and won't exceed it, same reason we (thankfully) gave up on Dinwiddie and Hayward

if that's the basis and they're exercising good discipline, then great. that said, they had all the reason for a mild panic purchase with the way this season is going.

somewhat ironic that Keon Johnson was our draft pick

In the end if Keon pans out the Blazers got cap space, longer and younger. If they did not see a future with Trent jr/Powell its a good move. This season is a wash for them.
Kind of move that allows a domino effect to begin a process of restoration. Small moves add up. This one does not move the dial. They dug a hole for themselves and have to start somewhere. With Olshy gone, is it a new direction or was this the plan all along?

Simmons looks like a good enough young piece I think they move CJ now. With that said the Knicks do not need CJ.

The algorithm gives and the algorithm takes away
smackeddog
Posts: 38389
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 3/30/2005
Member: #883
2/6/2022  5:23 AM
I wonder if the Clips would do Noel for either Ibaka or Covington- each are expiring and make slightly more than Noel (Covington would save them more this season and give the bigger luxury tax relief), and would ensure they have a C for next season (by which point hopefully Noel will have had surgery on his knee or whatever the issues).

I also like the rumour of Kemba to the hornets for ish smith (plus a small salary player to make the numbers work) and a second.

Jimbo5
Posts: 20878
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 4/12/2020
Member: #8854

2/6/2022  7:07 AM
Reports from NBA executives states the Randle's trade value is at an all time low(not surprising) maybe killing the idea of a trade by Thursday. I have a strong feeling there won't be anymore trades involving the knicks through Thursday. The knicks are getting ready to buckle down and just to live or die with Randle, Burkes, Evan and kemba. Maybe thibs is just banking on Drose's return to make the team more watchable the rest of the year.
BRIGGS
Posts: 53275
Alba Posts: 7
Joined: 7/30/2002
Member: #303
2/6/2022  10:03 AM
Jimbo5 wrote:Reports from NBA executives states the Randle's trade value is at an all time low(not surprising) maybe killing the idea of a trade by Thursday. I have a strong feeling there won't be anymore trades involving the knicks through Thursday. The knicks are getting ready to buckle down and just to live or die with Randle, Burkes, Evan and kemba. Maybe thibs is just banking on Drose's return to make the team more watchable the rest of the year.

he had a 32-16-7 game. Im gonna guess value rose a bit

RIP Crushalot😞
Philc1
Posts: 28295
Alba Posts: 2
Joined: 9/2/2020
Member: #8897

2/6/2022  10:07 AM
Jimbo5 wrote:Reports from NBA executives states the Randle's trade value is at an all time low(not surprising) maybe killing the idea of a trade by Thursday. I have a strong feeling there won't be anymore trades involving the knicks through Thursday. The knicks are getting ready to buckle down and just to live or die with Randle, Burkes, Evan and kemba. Maybe thibs is just banking on Drose's return to make the team more watchable the rest of the year.

No one wants Randle’s contract it’s a disaster

Philc1
Posts: 28295
Alba Posts: 2
Joined: 9/2/2020
Member: #8897

2/6/2022  10:08 AM
BRIGGS wrote:
Jimbo5 wrote:Reports from NBA executives states the Randle's trade value is at an all time low(not surprising) maybe killing the idea of a trade by Thursday. I have a strong feeling there won't be anymore trades involving the knicks through Thursday. The knicks are getting ready to buckle down and just to live or die with Randle, Burkes, Evan and kemba. Maybe thibs is just banking on Drose's return to make the team more watchable the rest of the year.

he had a 32-16-7 game. Im gonna guess value rose a bit

He had a very good game on national tv. Problem is he has a 4 year $100 million deal starting next year and he has been same ole Randle the rest of the season

BRIGGS
Posts: 53275
Alba Posts: 7
Joined: 7/30/2002
Member: #303
2/6/2022  10:55 AM
Philc1 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Jimbo5 wrote:Reports from NBA executives states the Randle's trade value is at an all time low(not surprising) maybe killing the idea of a trade by Thursday. I have a strong feeling there won't be anymore trades involving the knicks through Thursday. The knicks are getting ready to buckle down and just to live or die with Randle, Burkes, Evan and kemba. Maybe thibs is just banking on Drose's return to make the team more watchable the rest of the year.

he had a 32-16-7 game. Im gonna guess value rose a bit

He had a very good game on national tv. Problem is he has a 4 year $100 million deal starting next year and he has been same ole Randle the rest of the season

1000 nba players can play 1000 games and possibly none of them will do 32-16-7 other than absolute elite level.

RIP Crushalot😞
ToddTT
Posts: 30456
Alba Posts: 53
Joined: 8/30/2001
Member: #105
2/6/2022  11:07 AM
BRIGGS wrote:
Philc1 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Jimbo5 wrote:Reports from NBA executives states the Randle's trade value is at an all time low(not surprising) maybe killing the idea of a trade by Thursday. I have a strong feeling there won't be anymore trades involving the knicks through Thursday. The knicks are getting ready to buckle down and just to live or die with Randle, Burkes, Evan and kemba. Maybe thibs is just banking on Drose's return to make the team more watchable the rest of the year.

he had a 32-16-7 game. Im gonna guess value rose a bit

He had a very good game on national tv. Problem is he has a 4 year $100 million deal starting next year and he has been same ole Randle the rest of the season

1000 nba players can play 1000 games and possibly none of them will do 32-16-7 other than absolute elite level.

Randle needs Mr. Myagi.

I haven’t given up hope, and have come to peace with giving him a pass this year.

Kemba and EF however… I’d be glad to see them replaced by younger players that are not a liability on defense.

Oh good lord... https://www.youtube.com/shorts/XkmGrX7O0lQ
Nalod
Posts: 71087
Alba Posts: 155
Joined: 12/24/2003
Member: #508
USA
2/6/2022  11:37 AM
Philc1 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Jimbo5 wrote:Reports from NBA executives states the Randle's trade value is at an all time low(not surprising) maybe killing the idea of a trade by Thursday. I have a strong feeling there won't be anymore trades involving the knicks through Thursday. The knicks are getting ready to buckle down and just to live or die with Randle, Burkes, Evan and kemba. Maybe thibs is just banking on Drose's return to make the team more watchable the rest of the year.

he had a 32-16-7 game. Im gonna guess value rose a bit

He had a very good game on national tv. Problem is he has a 4 year $100 million deal starting next year and he has been same ole Randle the rest of the season

111 mil over 4. Years. You should look at All NBA salaries and understand he did not extend for last years value. He signed for a 2nd or third best option on a good team. We are not that team yet.
It takes foresight and imagination to build out a team over time. Not instant results.
Knicks are trying to do what most teams attempt, be relevant while improving.

wargames
Posts: 22833
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 5/27/2015
Member: #6053

2/6/2022  12:24 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
Philc1 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Jimbo5 wrote:Reports from NBA executives states the Randle's trade value is at an all time low(not surprising) maybe killing the idea of a trade by Thursday. I have a strong feeling there won't be anymore trades involving the knicks through Thursday. The knicks are getting ready to buckle down and just to live or die with Randle, Burkes, Evan and kemba. Maybe thibs is just banking on Drose's return to make the team more watchable the rest of the year.

he had a 32-16-7 game. Im gonna guess value rose a bit

He had a very good game on national tv. Problem is he has a 4 year $100 million deal starting next year and he has been same ole Randle the rest of the season

1000 nba players can play 1000 games and possibly none of them will do 32-16-7 other than absolute elite level.

A lot of it is teams hate the Knicks. It’s ingrained in the culture of the NBA so teams are like “Randle isn’t good anymore” but he’s averaging 18/9/5 and there are guys in the league who can’t do that their whole careers. His contract isn’t bad for his production level either. Teams just see the situation and are trying to rob the Knicks.

The algorithm gives and the algorithm takes away
Rookie
Posts: 26986
Alba Posts: 28
Joined: 10/15/2008
Member: #2274

2/6/2022  1:00 PM
wargames wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Philc1 wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Jimbo5 wrote:Reports from NBA executives states the Randle's trade value is at an all time low(not surprising) maybe killing the idea of a trade by Thursday. I have a strong feeling there won't be anymore trades involving the knicks through Thursday. The knicks are getting ready to buckle down and just to live or die with Randle, Burkes, Evan and kemba. Maybe thibs is just banking on Drose's return to make the team more watchable the rest of the year.

he had a 32-16-7 game. Im gonna guess value rose a bit

He had a very good game on national tv. Problem is he has a 4 year $100 million deal starting next year and he has been same ole Randle the rest of the season

1000 nba players can play 1000 games and possibly none of them will do 32-16-7 other than absolute elite level.

A lot of it is teams hate the Knicks. It’s ingrained in the culture of the NBA so teams are like “Randle isn’t good anymore” but he’s averaging 18/9/5 and there are guys in the league who can’t do that their whole careers. His contract isn’t bad for his production level either. Teams just see the situation and are trying to rob the Knicks.

The numbers are ok. It’ the lack of team play, sulky bad body language and obvious attitude that makes him undesirable in a trade. None of our off season moves are looking good. The multi year overpays are going to really screw us. Our cap situation and roster flexibility are very bad right now. It really makes our chances of making any kind of trade unlikely. Reality, chances are very high this is our team after the trade deadline. Maybe we can do something on draft night.

BRIGGS
Posts: 53275
Alba Posts: 7
Joined: 7/30/2002
Member: #303
2/6/2022  2:12 PM

2 player draft. Ivey and holmgren

RIP Crushalot😞
martin
Posts: 76034
Alba Posts: 108
Joined: 7/24/2001
Member: #2
USA
2/6/2022  2:34 PM
BRIGGS wrote:

2 player draft. Ivey and holmgren

lol until next week when you finally watch some more videos of Jabari Smith?

Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
Chandler
Posts: 26774
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 11/26/2015
Member: #6197

2/6/2022  2:41 PM
Philc1 wrote:
Jimbo5 wrote:Reports from NBA executives states the Randle's trade value is at an all time low(not surprising) maybe killing the idea of a trade by Thursday. I have a strong feeling there won't be anymore trades involving the knicks through Thursday. The knicks are getting ready to buckle down and just to live or die with Randle, Burkes, Evan and kemba. Maybe thibs is just banking on Drose's return to make the team more watchable the rest of the year.

No one wants Randle’s contract it’s a disaster

exaggerate much?!?!

say what you want to criticize Randle, his contract isn't one of them. (a) it's like 50 or so on the salary list (b) he didn't screws the Knicks out of every last dollar coming off a career year

Jesus

(5)(7)
Chandler
Posts: 26774
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 11/26/2015
Member: #6197

2/6/2022  2:41 PM
Jimbo5 wrote:Reports from NBA executives states the Randle's trade value is at an all time low(not surprising) maybe killing the idea of a trade by Thursday. I have a strong feeling there won't be anymore trades involving the knicks through Thursday. The knicks are getting ready to buckle down and just to live or die with Randle, Burkes, Evan and kemba. Maybe thibs is just banking on Drose's return to make the team more watchable the rest of the year.

sounds like a Post rumor

(5)(7)
jskinny35
Posts: 21580
Alba Posts: 0
Joined: 6/27/2005
Member: #928
USA
2/6/2022  3:46 PM
Chandler wrote:
Jimbo5 wrote:Reports from NBA executives states the Randle's trade value is at an all time low(not surprising) maybe killing the idea of a trade by Thursday. I have a strong feeling there won't be anymore trades involving the knicks through Thursday. The knicks are getting ready to buckle down and just to live or die with Randle, Burkes, Evan and kemba. Maybe thibs is just banking on Drose's return to make the team more watchable the rest of the year.

sounds like a Post rumor

Put Randle on a team like Denver, Atlanta or Portland where he plays as a 3rd option around other vets and he will most likely play to his potential. That's a great role for him IMO. While I would love to move him for Fox - I think we would have already heard more smoke by now - with the deadline being only 4 days away.

BRIGGS
Posts: 53275
Alba Posts: 7
Joined: 7/30/2002
Member: #303
2/6/2022  4:07 PM
martin wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:

2 player draft. Ivey and holmgren

lol until next week when you finally watch some more videos of Jabari Smith?

No. Ivey holmgren 1-2. Next 2-3 players down a tier. No doubt about it

RIP Crushalot😞
martin
Posts: 76034
Alba Posts: 108
Joined: 7/24/2001
Member: #2
USA
2/6/2022  4:28 PM
Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
martin
Posts: 76034
Alba Posts: 108
Joined: 7/24/2001
Member: #2
USA
2/6/2022  4:30 PM
Official sponsor of the PURE KNICKS LOVE Program
2022 Trade deadline musings (and trades)……….

©2001-2025 ultimateknicks.comm All rights reserved. About Us.
This site is not affiliated with the NY Knicks or the National Basketball Association in any way.
You may visit the official NY Knicks web site by clicking here.

All times (GMT-05:00) Eastern Time.

Terms of Use and Privacy Policy