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ATL hasn't loss a game since trading Cam
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martin
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1/31/2022  3:19 PM
franco12 wrote:
MS wrote:It’s addition by subtraction.

ATL is very similar to us that they have log jams everywhere and finding minutes creates dissension. I think we should probably move Cam in a trade with Fournier to get off his contract.

Cam has talent, but his market was minimal because he believes he’s better then he is and he deserves a role he hasn’t earned.

They are also shopping Collins which is the right move. To many guys with the same skills kills unity. We have the same problem with Kemba, Burks, Fournier right now. A change of scenery will be good for the rotations.

Maybe it was less about addition through subtraction and it was a wake up call for the others there in Atlanta. That has less to do with Cam being good/not good - and more with guys just sleep walking.

It was more the injuries.

Hunter just came back for last 10 games after missing 2 months. Capella has been injured and just returned. Okongwu has pretty much missed the whole season coming back Jan 1 and has looked fantastic, really coming into his own especially on D side of things.

3 main cogs.

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Philc1
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1/31/2022  3:22 PM    LAST EDITED: 1/31/2022  3:22 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
smackeddog wrote:For the anti Cam folk- what was the other pathway for us getting a long, possible 3 and D wing player with upside? Genuine question- where you going to trade for one? Which one and what price? What long 3 and d player were you signing in free agency (with no cap space) or drafting?

Dude there is no ANTI CAM here

I think your missing the point.

The KNICKs need a pg and a more versatile BiG man as oppose to a 3-D wing that you can't use anytime soon.

Do you watch the nba? The entire league is about 3 and now

foosballnick
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1/31/2022  3:40 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
smackeddog wrote:For the anti Cam folk- what was the other pathway for us getting a long, possible 3 and D wing player with upside? Genuine question- where you going to trade for one? Which one and what price? What long 3 and d player were you signing in free agency (with no cap space) or drafting?

Dude there is no ANTI CAM here

I think your missing the point.

The KNICKs need a pg and a more versatile BiG man as oppose to a 3-D wing that you can't use anytime soon.

Need does not always correlate into what other teams are willing to give up. Also, we don't yet know if there are other moves in the works or not. You seem to only be focused on the here and now as if you were tweaking a winning team. 3 years ago the Knicks were at the bottom of the NBA, 2 years ago still near the bottom, last year, much better with surprisingly good results - but still flawed. This is not near a championship roster - so I would think that adding players with downstream potential is a prudent move regardless of position.

The current wings on the Knicks are EF, Burks, Barrett and Cam. Grimes can play the wing but he really is a 2. If you look through the lens of who on the current roster might be here longer term its really only Barrett - and it's questionable if he's a 2 or a 3. So taking a flyer on Cam's potential might make sense as a longer athletic 3. While the longer view might not make sense to you, to others it does.

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1/31/2022  3:42 PM
Philc1 wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
smackeddog wrote:For the anti Cam folk- what was the other pathway for us getting a long, possible 3 and D wing player with upside? Genuine question- where you going to trade for one? Which one and what price? What long 3 and d player were you signing in free agency (with no cap space) or drafting?

Dude there is no ANTI CAM here

I think your missing the point.

The KNICKs need a pg and a more versatile BiG man as oppose to a 3-D wing that you can't use anytime soon.

Do you watch the nba? The entire league is about 3 and now

Right and we have

Founier
RJ
Grimes
Burks
OBI
Cam

6 wings and we have 9 man rotation...serious dude

I guess you think our stiff Centers and broken down PG's is normal in the NBA

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1/31/2022  4:01 PM
martin wrote:
franco12 wrote:
MS wrote:It’s addition by subtraction.

ATL is very similar to us that they have log jams everywhere and finding minutes creates dissension. I think we should probably move Cam in a trade with Fournier to get off his contract.

Cam has talent, but his market was minimal because he believes he’s better then he is and he deserves a role he hasn’t earned.

They are also shopping Collins which is the right move. To many guys with the same skills kills unity. We have the same problem with Kemba, Burks, Fournier right now. A change of scenery will be good for the rotations.

Maybe it was less about addition through subtraction and it was a wake up call for the others there in Atlanta. That has less to do with Cam being good/not good - and more with guys just sleep walking.

It was more the injuries.

Hunter just came back for last 10 games after missing 2 months. Capella has been injured and just returned. Okongwu has pretty much missed the whole season coming back Jan 1 and has looked fantastic, really coming into his own especially on D side of things.

3 main cogs.

Yep, and I can confirm that because I play fantasy basketball. And I originally had Cam after his 30 point explosion. Then I dropped him and picked up Hunter before he even played a game. As soon as Hunter came back, he was killing from the jump. That started the run.

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Philc1
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1/31/2022  11:45 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
Philc1 wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
smackeddog wrote:For the anti Cam folk- what was the other pathway for us getting a long, possible 3 and D wing player with upside? Genuine question- where you going to trade for one? Which one and what price? What long 3 and d player were you signing in free agency (with no cap space) or drafting?

Dude there is no ANTI CAM here

I think your missing the point.

The KNICKs need a pg and a more versatile BiG man as oppose to a 3-D wing that you can't use anytime soon.

Do you watch the nba? The entire league is about 3 and now

Right and we have

Founier
RJ
Grimes
Burks
OBI
Cam

6 wings and we have 9 man rotation...serious dude

I guess you think our stiff Centers and broken down PG's is normal in the NBA

Obi is a PF/C. Most nba teams have 5-6 wings in 8-10 man rotation anyway

franco12
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2/1/2022  6:28 AM
are we updating this since Atlanta lost last night?
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2/1/2022  8:15 AM
Philc1 wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
Philc1 wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:
smackeddog wrote:For the anti Cam folk- what was the other pathway for us getting a long, possible 3 and D wing player with upside? Genuine question- where you going to trade for one? Which one and what price? What long 3 and d player were you signing in free agency (with no cap space) or drafting?

Dude there is no ANTI CAM here

I think your missing the point.

The KNICKs need a pg and a more versatile BiG man as oppose to a 3-D wing that you can't use anytime soon.

Do you watch the nba? The entire league is about 3 and now

Right and we have

Founier
RJ
Grimes
Burks
OBI
Cam

6 wings and we have 9 man rotation...serious dude

I guess you think our stiff Centers and broken down PG's is normal in the NBA

Obi is a PF/C. Most nba teams have 5-6 wings in 8-10 man rotation anyway

Yeah but they also have Bigs that can do more than just DUNK, and PG's that have healthy knees

ES
ATL hasn't loss a game since trading Cam

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