Offensively Obi reminds me more of a Shawn Marion type in that he has an odd spot up 3pt shot and relies on his instincts, hustle and athleticism mostly. I don't see the Amare comp anymore but maybe he will develop a few post moves and a face up j.

After last nights game - I shift more of the focus to Thibs (vs Randle) as Thibs stubbornness appears to be catching up with him.

When we compare starting lineup vs reserves - we have to remember that the reserves are playing against the Heat's reserves so starting them doesn't necessarily translate as well if the talent is less. Thibs says he's all about effort and hustle - so I think messing up the "perfect" bench and shifting a few would work better as Thibs doesn't seem to have the patience to let the young players play and take their lumps. IQ and Toppin playing more minutes with RJ and Randle would be where I would start (to evaluate).

jskinny35 wrote:

After last nights game - I shift more of the focus to Thibs (vs Randle) as Thibs stubbornness appears to be catching up with him.

I think we can put a lot of blame for the season on Thibs AND Randle. No need to separate them as they are joined at the hip.

You hit on something that I think has been the main point of contention amongst the Thibs critics this season: He has the quality of a cello player on the deck of the Titanic, a stoic doctrinaire who refuses to pack up his bow before he gets through his specific and anal rendition of “Nearer, My God, To Thee” as all we Irish Knicks faithful sink into the abyss in the icy, gated off lower bowels of the ship.

Is he really going to play that line up until ship sinks and he dies?

Just listening to xm radio and thanks to JVG they are starting to break down the issues with the starting 5.

They also started shuffling players and said Noel for Mitch the numbers jump to a +17. Or Burks instead of Kemba, the defense is still bad but the offense improves.

It’s like our defense was good last year so we fixed the offense. Well now both is bad. Offense still stinks and defense got worse. Yet elf and Bullock are bums? Seems like the FO making these moves are the real bums. And I’ve backed this FO from day one. And still believe in them. But facts are facts.

I’ll let the stat geeks back up those numbers. But the numbers only confirms what my eyes have seen. And we’ve been bad in the 3rd quarter b4 thibs got here. Never understood why

fwk00 wrote:Luke Walton; courtesy phone.

The one who bombed out in SAC while juggling a sexual harassment suit?

all of them think the style of play and rotation is working?

Head Coach Tom Thibodeau
Associate Head Coach Johnnie Bryant
Assistant Coaches Darren Erman, Andy Greer, Larry Greer, Kenny Payne
Strength & Conditioning Coach Richard Williams
Two-Way Liaison Aaron Brooks
Assistant to Head Coach Daisuke Yoshimoto
Assistant to General Manager Frederick Cofield
Advanced Scouts Larry Greer, Matt Harding
Basketball Scouts John Halas, Reggie Johnson, Alex Kline, TJ Zanin

martin wrote:I thought this was an interesting take

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Wish Fournier was a better player. Like that he speaks his mind. But the stats were pointing at Kemba as the weakest link in the SL on offense and defense. You can't really blame Thibs for that move. But you can blame Thibs for not holding Randle accountable. Maybe he can't 🤷

ramtour420 wrote:

Sambakick wrote:

jrodmc wrote:This from the guy who gave us the Finals starting lineup of Charlie Football and Chris Dudley.

Do you remember that playoffs? Ewing was hurt in the ECF. They never had a chance in that series. Dudley started the first two games while Camby racked up 5 fouls each coming off the bench in a 24 minute split with Dudley. Then Camby started and fouled out of game 3 in 16 minutes of action. Charlie Ward and Chris Childs split time in a platoon as well. The criticism of JVG is dumb.

Ehem, hold my beer... The fact that JVG got that team to the finals with Choolie Ward and Chris Dudley starting speaks volumes of his coaching chops and, if anything, it absolutely gives his opinion weight.

jskinny35 wrote:The disappointing part is Thibs brings a lot to the table as a coach. His flaws/limits are he doesn't adjust much but that's really what's needed here - not a new coach. Maybe if Randle were traded he would have little choice but to be more creative/flexible with the younger roster?

What is it that Thibs "brings to the table". The proof is in the pudding and the pudding these days is a steaming linked sausage.

jrodmc wrote:

Sambakick wrote:

jrodmc wrote:This from the guy who gave us the Finals starting lineup of Charlie Football and Chris Dudley.

Do you remember that playoffs? Ewing was hurt in the ECF. They never had a chance in that series. Dudley started the first two games while Camby racked up 5 fouls each coming off the bench in a 24 minute split with Dudley. Then Camby started and fouled out of game 3 in 16 minutes of action. Charlie Ward and Chris Childs split time in a platoon as well. The criticism of JVG is dumb.

No kidding Ewing was hurt. Do you remember who was on the team besides Camby? You had Krazy Eyes also sitting behind Dudley. Instead of telling me how Camby fouled out in one game, tell me why starting Dudley was such a great coaching move. Tell me why starting Chris Dudley against two HOF front court players was a good idea in the NBA Finals. You would have been better off playing Herb Williams. Tell me why starting Charlie Football and continuing to play Spree out of position was a great coaching move.

Your explanations are dumb, besides missing the point.

Right, we never had a chance. Spree had one of the best 3rd quarters in a Finals since MJ. We were a short Spree jumper away from forcing game 6.

Even had we gotten to game 6 we would never have had a chance to win that series. Dudley was 6'11 to go against the twin towers of SAS. KT was 6'9. Do you think starting KT would've made a difference in the outcome? Because it would not have.