Knixkik wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

HoustonSprewell84 wrote:Randle doesn’t help Sixers at all, they will turn down the offer. This isn’t nba 2k.

I know. But if a deal became available I'd say take it. Ben's talent would lift the team's ceiling.

How does having another player that doesn’t shoot outside of the paint or make free throws lift the team’s ceiling. If we start Mitch, that means 2 guys on the floor who can’t shoot from anywhere. How do you expect Barrett to be able to drive to the lane to do what he does best? You surround Barrett with Simmons and Mitch, you might as well stick a fork in him right now. It’s 2022 in the nba and you want a lineup filled with guys who can’t shoot threes and can’t shoot free throws ??? Team building 101 is focus on guys who can make shots from multiple spots on the floor.

Agreed, we should be surrounding Barrett and maybe Randle with shooters.
We’re a poor three point, mid range, and free throw shooting team.
I would rather trade for a big who can shoot, like a Steve Novak type. Maybe Peter Kaminsky.
Not a fancy trade but would help our team a lottt.

But the more I think about this line up, the more I think it immediately makes us a contender in the East:

Simmons
Barrett
Cam
Randle
Mitch/Noel/Taj (whoever is healthy)

Your weakest link on D might be Randle, and if you put that line up out there, he will definitely feel the good kind of pressure to perform.

D Rose when he is back can change the pace tremendously- and you don't need to go very deep on the rotation.

You still have Burk and IQ that are great shooters which you can slot in as needed.

I'm not crazy about Simmons- but he is a tremendous game changing athlete when he is playing well. I think Thibs can really exploit his package of skill and athletic presence.

nyvector16 wrote:The problem with Simmons is you are playing 4 on 5 on offense in a half-court set.
The guy refuses to be part of offense down low constantly passing up point-blank shots.

His guy will always play hard help defense.

I would be more interested in Fox from Kings to fix PG situation and not have to absorb Harris' crazy contract.

Realistically, most all teams play some version of 4 on 5 either on defense or offense. Atlanta and Dallas will always play 4 on 5 defensively.

Bad Boy Detroit play 4 on 5 offensively.

Knicks play 3 on 5 offensively cause they got no PG lol

ramtour420 wrote:I don't want to do a lateral trade at best to make Philly a title contender. And can we please, for the love of all that's good in this world, stop mentioning Grimes in any trade! He is our best asset and building block after RJ. Grimes is untouchable. Not even for Fox, nor anyone else for that matter.

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martin wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:I don't want to do a lateral trade at best to make Philly a title contender. And can we please, for the love of all that's good in this world, stop mentioning Grimes in any trade! He is our best asset and building block after RJ. Grimes is untouchable. Not even for Fox, nor anyone else for that matter.

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Totally agree as well.
I can't help but wonder if we would feel the same about Deuce if given the playing time.

nyvector16 wrote:

martin wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:I don't want to do a lateral trade at best to make Philly a title contender. And can we please, for the love of all that's good in this world, stop mentioning Grimes in any trade! He is our best asset and building block after RJ. Grimes is untouchable. Not even for Fox, nor anyone else for that matter.

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Totally agree as well.
I can't help but wonder if we would feel the same about Deuce if given the playing time.

He had one really good freaking outing, 15 points, 9 assists, 2-5 from 3pt land, 6-11 overall. Against a bad Houston team but it's still impressive. I think he'll have a nice career if he puts in the work and it looks like he is

SergioNYK wrote:I'm all for trading Randle but not for a nutjob and quitter like Simmons.

We’re trying to build a culture here —- not revive the 2005 Marbury/Larry Brown era

jskinny35 wrote:

TheGame wrote:I would love to get the old Ben Simmons, but as others have said, we cannot trust this guy. The NY media is ruthless and he has shown himself to be thin-skinned. He would never survive here. The trade we should do is Randle for Jerami Grant. Grant would provide better defense, the same level of scoring, and fewer turnovers.

This is a lateral move the could prove helpful as we would receive back similar production while encouraging more ball movement, play at faster pace and allow some more minutes for Obi, Reddish, Grimes, etc. We would probably have some growing pains as RJ is looking close (but not quite ready) to assume an increased role. Toppin still needs development time... Could Thibs let go of fighting tooth and nail for the 8th seed and allow these guys the remaining season to figure things out for the future? Ideally this happens concurrently but not sure it would with Thibs and all these young guys. I would support it as we're going nowhere fast.