blkexec wrote:

martin wrote:Unless there is a palpable trade for Brunson, why would the Knicks do anything?

Both Rose and Kemba will be back shortly.

IQ needs more PG minutes. McBride could use some scrap minutes too.

What is there really to complain about? I mean, besides the obvious?

If Brunson is the off season target and Dallas doesn’t want to lose him for nothing, Knicks are and should put a package together that includes maybe a pick. Since Brunson is looking for a 20mil per yr long term contract, adding him now will give us an idea if he’s worth that much in this system. I would think it’s a risk to offer Brunson a large contract without seeing his impact on the Knicks. Seems like whenever a player comes here, his game is impacted in some shape or form. I’m worried about his defense and size with todays bigger PG options on every team. I do not want to pay 20 mil for a defensive liability PG. unless somehow his offense and leadership hides those deficiencies. And I’m hoping we get a home town discount.

Just venting a little while eating lunch.

We can offer Dallas their own pick to start...

MS wrote:The Knicks could have done the same deal they did for Reddish and locked Lonzo in ahead of time. Which seems to be the only way to get people here.

It’s literally mind blowing how many easy shots, lobs and opportunities we miss every night because of over dribbling and not whipping the ball around.

The Knicks are in a very rough spot moving forward. Not better than three non playoff teams for the foreseeable future in Charlotte, Cleveland and Chicago, not as good as Philly, Miami, Milwaukee and NJ. Even ish with Boston. Better but not as talented as ATL.

Unless something happens injury wise the Knicks are pissing into the wind in mediocrity.

I am sure the Knicks are using their resources and connections to let Brunson know he is wanted here. Hopefully, the feeling is mutual.

martin wrote:

Uptown wrote:

blkexec wrote:

martin wrote:Unless there is a palpable trade for Brunson, why would the Knicks do anything?

Both Rose and Kemba will be back shortly.

IQ needs more PG minutes. McBride could use some scrap minutes too.

What is there really to complain about? I mean, besides the obvious?

If Brunson is the off season target and Dallas doesn’t want to lose him for nothing, Knicks are and should put a package together that includes maybe a pick. Since Brunson is looking for a 20mil per yr long term contract, adding him now will give us an idea if he’s worth that much in this system. I would think it’s a risk to offer Brunson a large contract without seeing his impact on the Knicks. Seems like whenever a player comes here, his game is impacted in some shape or form. I’m worried about his defense and size with todays bigger PG options on every team. I do not want to pay 20 mil for a defensive liability PG. unless somehow his offense and leadership hides those deficiencies. And I’m hoping we get a home town discount.

Just venting a little while eating lunch.

We can offer Dallas their own pick to start...

Quite frankly I think that'll be a big linchpin to a proposed trade

I think so too...I am far from a capologist, but considering the rumored contract Brunson wants, I'm not sure how much money we would need to send to Dallas to make a sign-and-trade work.

martin wrote:

Nalod wrote:Kemba and the pick for Brunson?

They can use Kemba for playoffs this year. We can’t very well trade them frank can we? LOL…….

Unfortunately salaries are waaaayyy off.

If I'm Dallas I'd want: IQ, its own 2023 pick back in the very least. Maybe Rokus too.

BigDaddyG wrote:

Uptown wrote:

Knixkik wrote:PG is a big problem. Could make a deal for LeVert who brings the Burks size but with more PG qualities like playmaking and dribbling penetration.

But more than likely get Kemba back and hope he doesn’t break down again until Rose can come back around after the allstar break I’m guessing.

Brunson is a more likely option in the offseason, but he’s probably the target if we can’t land Fox.

What’s clear is thibs and Kemba haven’t been on the same page. Even now, thibs has put the ball in Kembas court basically saying he’s cleared to play but will come back when he feels ready.

I'm not a fan of trying to convert SG's into PG's. We need a natural, instinctive PG to run the show. Seems like we've been looking for a franchise PG since we shipped out Mark Jackson Sugar Ray Richardson.

Fixed it. I will say Derek Harper wasn't that bad, but he was like 66 when the Knicks got him.

Sugar Ray was the man! Harper impressed. Don't forget Jason Kidd. Just think what we could have done if somebody had thought to get him an eye exam. Wasn't he something like 0 for April? Up till then he was magical. To get one of these players in their prime the gods would have to be smiling down.

Based on our off-season, free agents still don’t want to sign here so what were we supposed to do? Maybe Thibs could try and not break Kemba by playing him 40 min a game.

martin wrote:

Nalod wrote:Kemba and the pick for Brunson?

They can use Kemba for playoffs this year. We can’t very well trade them frank can we? LOL…….

Unfortunately salaries are waaaayyy off.

If I'm Dallas I'd want: IQ, its own 2023 pick back in the very least. Maybe Rokus too.

You think they do the trade in season? I was thinking off season but it is early enough that they can gel with a new player in time for post season. And Brunson has more value now to Dallas, trade wise.
Dallas is not really in a good position with Brunson. I think him and Mitch are literally in the same exact situation?

I would give them IQ as it solves a problem for us (and them) and I'm no longer in love with IQ. I would like to hold onto our two young PG's, you know, cause we are the Knicks and cursed with PG's.
But Dallas might want Mitch, and I don't think I'd want that, especially in light of Turner getting hurt (again), should we decide to trade for him.

I get the feeling we are going to see 2 or 3 trades, at about the same time, before the deadline to fix our too full roster.
I pray Leon trims some vets off the team. For example, Kemba, Burks, maybe Noel and as crazy as it sounds, Taj. Leon has to force Thibs into the future with roster changes.
Fournier - I like him on offense, but hate him on defense, so I'm open to moving him as well and giving Grimes (and maybe some of Cam) his minutes.

knicks1248 wrote:There were a few team interested in kemba when he was out of the rotation and looked to be healthy.

I don't think that's the case after his latest stint on the injured list, and keep in mind the celtics had to shut him down for the playoffs.

He's missed over 3 weeks with soreness, despite playing just 4 or 5 games.

The kicks interest in Lonzo Ball was little to none.

Lonzo wanted to be in a big market.

This knicks Top priority was to resign its own FA and run it back.

Just don't understand why you sign a player with chronic knee issues to be your atarter

Which teams and what were the offers? We turn them down? Did Kemba have a say in any of this? He looked to be healthy? By whose eye?

Uptown wrote:

blkexec wrote:

martin wrote:Unless there is a palpable trade for Brunson, why would the Knicks do anything?

Both Rose and Kemba will be back shortly.

IQ needs more PG minutes. McBride could use some scrap minutes too.

What is there really to complain about? I mean, besides the obvious?

If Brunson is the off season target and Dallas doesn’t want to lose him for nothing, Knicks are and should put a package together that includes maybe a pick. Since Brunson is looking for a 20mil per yr long term contract, adding him now will give us an idea if he’s worth that much in this system. I would think it’s a risk to offer Brunson a large contract without seeing his impact on the Knicks. Seems like whenever a player comes here, his game is impacted in some shape or form. I’m worried about his defense and size with todays bigger PG options on every team. I do not want to pay 20 mil for a defensive liability PG. unless somehow his offense and leadership hides those deficiencies. And I’m hoping we get a home town discount.

Just venting a little while eating lunch.

We can offer Dallas their own pick to start...

Only way we get Brunson is if we offer to also take on the rest of Porzingis’s contract

F that