Philc1 wrote:

LivingLegend wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

Knixkik wrote:Myles Turner should be the move.

Over rated for what the cost would be. They’d want a stars package. 5 1s young players er

Turner would be a pretty big improvement because he moves better side/side. He also has better timing on his blocks but I watch his box scores pretty regularly and he can put some pretty EMPTY box scores out there.

Price for Turner would depend.

If it were Mitch/Knox for Turner I’d probably do it but even Knox is a guy we’ve just buried at such a young age (frustrating).

The pacers will want the farm for Turner. That means RJ, IQ, Obi and picks and probably more

F that

Obviously that’s not happening. It would have to be a package built around picks for it to make sense for the Knicks. Most who have brought up the Turner option on the internet think Mitch/Noel and a couple of picks would do the trick. It’s definitely not all of our young talent.

jskinny35 wrote:I go back to GS for Kuminga and Wiseman for Randle, Mitch, Knox and a 1st rounder. To me - it's looking like either Randle or RJ and I go with the younger player. Plus we can speed up ball movement, watch Toppin run sprints and acquire a young C and SF with high potential. GS would probably consider because they're all in for this season and Randle would be an ideal addition as he has some size, can shoot outside and will probably perform well as the 2nd or 3rd offensive option for them (less pressure).

Trying to think about it from GS's perspective and who they would want. Randle is sticky with the ball but is that more exactly who he is or more the composition of the Knicks roster makeup?

I'd guess GS would want Randle, Burks, IQ, Obi and that would be the starting point.

HofstraBBall wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:We have too much cash into Noel. Sims is cheap. Robinson is not worthy or needed going forward. But we do need to find a post that can score and play D

Is this another one of your needed tough moves? How did Burks work out in SL?

Our problem is that we can't cover the 3pt stripe and wings can't hit threes:
Burks 44%, Kemba 41.3, EF 39.4, Rose 39.2, IQ 35.5, RJ 31, Top 18. but you want to get rid of Mitch? Makes sense.

We have A LOT of things that will be fixed if we just start hitting shots. Biggest issue inbtermnof personnel is that we need to have a PG to get guys shots in the right spots.

Dude we could have John Stockton and CP3 on this team and Randle would still be our main ball handler.

When I watch GSW and The suns play, the don't hold the ball, they pass the spread out and make the extra pass on every possession.

GSW leads the league in assist (29) with a scoring PG who averages less then 7 assist in curry

The move the ball, spread the floor, and play fast..

knicks1248 wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:We have too much cash into Noel. Sims is cheap. Robinson is not worthy or needed going forward. But we do need to find a post that can score and play D

Is this another one of your needed tough moves? How did Burks work out in SL?

Our problem is that we can't cover the 3pt stripe and wings can't hit threes:
Burks 44%, Kemba 41.3, EF 39.4, Rose 39.2, IQ 35.5, RJ 31, Top 18. but you want to get rid of Mitch? Makes sense.

We have A LOT of things that will be fixed if we just start hitting shots. Biggest issue inbtermnof personnel is that we need to have a PG to get guys shots in the right spots.

Dude we could have John Stockton and CP3 on this team and Randle would still be our main ball handler.

When I watch GSW and The suns play, the don't hold the ball, they pass the spread out and make the extra pass on every possession.

GSW leads the league in assist (29) with a scoring PG who averages less then 7 assist in curry

The move the ball, spread the floor, and play fast..

The bold is so true. I used to think that Randle could be a good 3rd or maybe 2nd option but I no longer think that. He forces himself as the main option on offense too much. You got PGs who want to push the ball? He will wave them off and walk the ball up only to turn it over. Randle will go stretches near the beginning of the game where the ball does not stick with him. However, the deeper into the game we go the more likely the ball will stick once he touches it and he is way to inefficient to be the focal point of an offense. If he was Jokic would I hate ISO's as much? Probably not. I consider Jokic to be a new age PG with how amazing his passing and vision is.

Clean wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:We have too much cash into Noel. Sims is cheap. Robinson is not worthy or needed going forward. But we do need to find a post that can score and play D

Is this another one of your needed tough moves? How did Burks work out in SL?

Our problem is that we can't cover the 3pt stripe and wings can't hit threes:
Burks 44%, Kemba 41.3, EF 39.4, Rose 39.2, IQ 35.5, RJ 31, Top 18. but you want to get rid of Mitch? Makes sense.

We have A LOT of things that will be fixed if we just start hitting shots. Biggest issue inbtermnof personnel is that we need to have a PG to get guys shots in the right spots.

Dude we could have John Stockton and CP3 on this team and Randle would still be our main ball handler.

When I watch GSW and The suns play, the don't hold the ball, they pass the spread out and make the extra pass on every possession.

GSW leads the league in assist (29) with a scoring PG who averages less then 7 assist in curry

The move the ball, spread the floor, and play fast..

The bold is so true. I used to think that Randle could be a good 3rd or maybe 2nd option but I no longer think that. He forces himself as the main option on offense too much. You got PGs who want to push the ball? He will wave them off and walk the ball up only to turn it over. Randle will go stretches near the beginning of the game where the ball does not stick with him. However, the deeper into the game we go the more likely the ball will stick once he touches it and he is way to inefficient to be the focal point of an offense. If he was Jokic would I hate ISO's as much? Probably not. I consider Jokic to be a new age PG with how amazing his passing and vision is.

Burks, Rj, Fournier, Obi, they all play ISO ball way too much, they missed open players on fast breaks, on penetration.

Almost every player on the GSW/SUNS can catch, shoot, pass, and trust each other..

Last season bullock and RJ were solid in that catch, shoot, pass, department,

This season Rj's man is lagging off him enough to take a swipe at the ball in randles hand, so is the man guarding mitch, and so is the guy guarding Fournier.

these guys can't even cut to the basket because the center is there clogging the lane causing a cluster fck ..

Stop just focusing on Randle when there's 5 moving parts that aren't working as a unit or playing together consistently.

RJ bricking shots is a very bad thing

Uptown wrote:Mitch is an UFA this summer...A decision needs to be made either way. Not sure how much he will command on the open market but wouldn't be surprised if he's shopped at the deadline.

Right now, I'd guess $7-9M per. His stock is dropping. He can still turn it around. But if Sims does continue to improve, it may not make sense to bring him back. Depending on Noel for an entire season is a scary prospect though.