jrodmc wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

franco12 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:I think it’s time to replace Quickley w Grimes

Too much non team basketball last 3 min Again. It’s throw it to Julius and move away.

Rose still Should be the pg the last 3 min. We could play Rose abd Kemba together with lead if needed

And lastly Obi needs ten more minutes hes gotta get 20-24

I thought Obi was really playing nicely when he got pulled - felt sudden and not in the flow.

We won, wheh. I'm not going to criticize Thibs too much, but I think the observations have merit.

I felt like Walker didn't have anything left in his tank at the end, and thought we needed Rose back out there.

Good thing we won- otherwise i would have had to post 60 win teams don't lose games like that.

We can be better than we are. IQ has not been playing well--time to give Grimes 5 games. Obi has proven to give the Knicks a shot in the arm with easy 2's. Whatever way we can find to get him to 20-24 we should. Hes 6-9 and a different type of player than anyone else on the team. Rose is still the 2nd best player on th team--sometimes the best. Hes our guy. Hes got to be in there at the end in tough games. Id be comfortable with both kemba and Rose if needed.

Yes, that would be the perfect answer to a Quickley sophmore slump. Dump the kid on the bench 5 games into the season. Should do wonders for his game. That's brilliant coaching and player development.

And when either Rose or Kemba break down because you're playing them 30 minutes each a game, I'm sure an unproven rook who Thibs doesn't have in the rotation will fill in perfectly nicely.

Next game's post: How we would be undefeated if Thibs just gave 3 point threat Knox some burn.

Where's the click bait in these threads? Oh wait...

If you were to bench IQ for a game or two - I don't know about five- and that is how he responded, then he is mentally weak and doesn't belong here - the fact is player development and coaching sometimes requires sending a message.

I feel confident Thibs has this. But you have to think eventually some kind of move will be needed - perhaps it happens in a loss where we're blown out or just not clicking.

KnickDanger wrote:I Heart Briggs!

Hey man I just wanna win. We could easily be 2-3 now. We can make minor adjustments on the fly

BRIGGS wrote:

KnickDanger wrote:I Heart Briggs!

Hey man I just wanna win. We could easily be 2-3 now. We can make minor adjustments on the fly

Always looking for the cloud in that silver lining eh?

franco12 wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

franco12 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:I think it’s time to replace Quickley w Grimes

Too much non team basketball last 3 min Again. It’s throw it to Julius and move away.

Rose still Should be the pg the last 3 min. We could play Rose abd Kemba together with lead if needed

And lastly Obi needs ten more minutes hes gotta get 20-24

I thought Obi was really playing nicely when he got pulled - felt sudden and not in the flow.

We won, wheh. I'm not going to criticize Thibs too much, but I think the observations have merit.

I felt like Walker didn't have anything left in his tank at the end, and thought we needed Rose back out there.

Good thing we won- otherwise i would have had to post 60 win teams don't lose games like that.

We can be better than we are. IQ has not been playing well--time to give Grimes 5 games. Obi has proven to give the Knicks a shot in the arm with easy 2's. Whatever way we can find to get him to 20-24 we should. Hes 6-9 and a different type of player than anyone else on the team. Rose is still the 2nd best player on th team--sometimes the best. Hes our guy. Hes got to be in there at the end in tough games. Id be comfortable with both kemba and Rose if needed.

Yes, that would be the perfect answer to a Quickley sophmore slump. Dump the kid on the bench 5 games into the season. Should do wonders for his game. That's brilliant coaching and player development.

And when either Rose or Kemba break down because you're playing them 30 minutes each a game, I'm sure an unproven rook who Thibs doesn't have in the rotation will fill in perfectly nicely.

Next game's post: How we would be undefeated if Thibs just gave 3 point threat Knox some burn.

Where's the click bait in these threads? Oh wait...

If you were to bench IQ for a game or two - I don't know about five- and that is how he responded, then he is mentally weak and doesn't belong here - the fact is player development and coaching sometimes requires sending a message.

I feel confident Thibs has this. But you have to think eventually some kind of move will be needed - perhaps it happens in a loss where we're blown out or just not clicking.

Having a hard time understanding the obsession with benching IQ in this forum. He's averaging 6 shots in less than 14 minutes per game and only turned the ball over 3 times in 5 games. He works hard on D and his rotations have improved, hustles and maintains a significant amount of energy when on the floor. What are we benching him for and for what lesson? To shoot at a better percentage after the first 5 games? What type of lesson is that teaching a 2nd year player who is a streak shooter with unlimited range?

Do fans even understand what Thibs is driving here? He loves guys who sacrifice and of work it on D. He does not sweat shooting slumps.

foosballnick wrote:

franco12 wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

franco12 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:I think it’s time to replace Quickley w Grimes

Too much non team basketball last 3 min Again. It’s throw it to Julius and move away.

Rose still Should be the pg the last 3 min. We could play Rose abd Kemba together with lead if needed

And lastly Obi needs ten more minutes hes gotta get 20-24

I thought Obi was really playing nicely when he got pulled - felt sudden and not in the flow.

We won, wheh. I'm not going to criticize Thibs too much, but I think the observations have merit.

I felt like Walker didn't have anything left in his tank at the end, and thought we needed Rose back out there.

Good thing we won- otherwise i would have had to post 60 win teams don't lose games like that.

We can be better than we are. IQ has not been playing well--time to give Grimes 5 games. Obi has proven to give the Knicks a shot in the arm with easy 2's. Whatever way we can find to get him to 20-24 we should. Hes 6-9 and a different type of player than anyone else on the team. Rose is still the 2nd best player on th team--sometimes the best. Hes our guy. Hes got to be in there at the end in tough games. Id be comfortable with both kemba and Rose if needed.

Yes, that would be the perfect answer to a Quickley sophmore slump. Dump the kid on the bench 5 games into the season. Should do wonders for his game. That's brilliant coaching and player development.

And when either Rose or Kemba break down because you're playing them 30 minutes each a game, I'm sure an unproven rook who Thibs doesn't have in the rotation will fill in perfectly nicely.

Next game's post: How we would be undefeated if Thibs just gave 3 point threat Knox some burn.

Where's the click bait in these threads? Oh wait...

If you were to bench IQ for a game or two - I don't know about five- and that is how he responded, then he is mentally weak and doesn't belong here - the fact is player development and coaching sometimes requires sending a message.

I feel confident Thibs has this. But you have to think eventually some kind of move will be needed - perhaps it happens in a loss where we're blown out or just not clicking.

Having a hard time understanding the obsession with benching IQ in this forum. He's averaging 6 shots in less than 14 minutes per game and only turned the ball over 3 times in 5 games. He works hard on D and his rotations have improved, hustles and maintains a significant amount of energy when on the floor. What are we benching him for and for what lesson? To shoot at a better percentage after the first 5 games? What type of lesson is that teaching a 2nd year player who is a streak shooter with unlimited range?

Do fans even understand what Thibs is driving here? He loves guys who sacrifice and of work it on D. He does not sweat shooting slumps.

You must have noticed there is a need for a scapegoat (at 4 - 1) and whipping boy. Payton (who had a solid appearance for the Suns two nights ago) is gone. Kemba was in line but has shut them up (for now). Once upon a time it was Randle but that was ages ago (unless he misses a few more foul shots). RJ one time also but is in the clear for a few more games anyway. Obi's dunks are loved although he isn't on the thickest of ice. Knox (unlike Frank for whatever reason) is just a nonentity.

So Quickley it is.

BRIGGS wrote:I think it’s time to replace Quickley w Grimes

Too much non team basketball last 3 min Again. It’s throw it to Julius and move away.

Rose still Should be the pg the last 3 min. We could play Rose abd Kemba together with lead if needed

And lastly Obi needs ten more minutes hes gotta get 20-24

You posted a similar thread about iq after a few games last year, so you haven’t learned anything about basic patience- hope this thread goes the same way!

KnickDanger wrote:

foosballnick wrote:

franco12 wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

franco12 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:I think it’s time to replace Quickley w Grimes

Too much non team basketball last 3 min Again. It’s throw it to Julius and move away.

Rose still Should be the pg the last 3 min. We could play Rose abd Kemba together with lead if needed

And lastly Obi needs ten more minutes hes gotta get 20-24

I thought Obi was really playing nicely when he got pulled - felt sudden and not in the flow.

We won, wheh. I'm not going to criticize Thibs too much, but I think the observations have merit.

I felt like Walker didn't have anything left in his tank at the end, and thought we needed Rose back out there.

Good thing we won- otherwise i would have had to post 60 win teams don't lose games like that.

We can be better than we are. IQ has not been playing well--time to give Grimes 5 games. Obi has proven to give the Knicks a shot in the arm with easy 2's. Whatever way we can find to get him to 20-24 we should. Hes 6-9 and a different type of player than anyone else on the team. Rose is still the 2nd best player on th team--sometimes the best. Hes our guy. Hes got to be in there at the end in tough games. Id be comfortable with both kemba and Rose if needed.

Yes, that would be the perfect answer to a Quickley sophmore slump. Dump the kid on the bench 5 games into the season. Should do wonders for his game. That's brilliant coaching and player development.

And when either Rose or Kemba break down because you're playing them 30 minutes each a game, I'm sure an unproven rook who Thibs doesn't have in the rotation will fill in perfectly nicely.

Next game's post: How we would be undefeated if Thibs just gave 3 point threat Knox some burn.

Where's the click bait in these threads? Oh wait...

If you were to bench IQ for a game or two - I don't know about five- and that is how he responded, then he is mentally weak and doesn't belong here - the fact is player development and coaching sometimes requires sending a message.

I feel confident Thibs has this. But you have to think eventually some kind of move will be needed - perhaps it happens in a loss where we're blown out or just not clicking.

Having a hard time understanding the obsession with benching IQ in this forum. He's averaging 6 shots in less than 14 minutes per game and only turned the ball over 3 times in 5 games. He works hard on D and his rotations have improved, hustles and maintains a significant amount of energy when on the floor. What are we benching him for and for what lesson? To shoot at a better percentage after the first 5 games? What type of lesson is that teaching a 2nd year player who is a streak shooter with unlimited range?

Do fans even understand what Thibs is driving here? He loves guys who sacrifice and of work it on D. He does not sweat shooting slumps.

You must have noticed there is a need for a scapegoat (at 4 - 1) and whipping boy. Payton (who had a solid appearance for the Suns two nights ago) is gone. Kemba was in line but has shut them up (for now). Once upon a time it was Randle but that was ages ago (unless he misses a few more foul shots). RJ one time also but is in the clear for a few more games anyway. Obi's dunks are loved although he isn't on the thickest of ice. Knox (unlike Frank for whatever reason) is just a nonentity.

So Quickley it is.

I think Briggs point is that while we're 4 & 1 (yea!) we could easily have lost 2 of those games. Last night was one where granted Chicago stepped up their defense, we struggled to score. Obi is one player that athletically can help make things happen - dunks and lay ups.

And IQ normally is the player to get those baskets, but he has been cold of late.

No one is asking to fire Thibs...yet!

franco12 wrote:

KnickDanger wrote:

foosballnick wrote:

franco12 wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

franco12 wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:I think it’s time to replace Quickley w Grimes

Too much non team basketball last 3 min Again. It’s throw it to Julius and move away.

Rose still Should be the pg the last 3 min. We could play Rose abd Kemba together with lead if needed

And lastly Obi needs ten more minutes hes gotta get 20-24

I thought Obi was really playing nicely when he got pulled - felt sudden and not in the flow.

We won, wheh. I'm not going to criticize Thibs too much, but I think the observations have merit.

I felt like Walker didn't have anything left in his tank at the end, and thought we needed Rose back out there.

Good thing we won- otherwise i would have had to post 60 win teams don't lose games like that.

We can be better than we are. IQ has not been playing well--time to give Grimes 5 games. Obi has proven to give the Knicks a shot in the arm with easy 2's. Whatever way we can find to get him to 20-24 we should. Hes 6-9 and a different type of player than anyone else on the team. Rose is still the 2nd best player on th team--sometimes the best. Hes our guy. Hes got to be in there at the end in tough games. Id be comfortable with both kemba and Rose if needed.

Yes, that would be the perfect answer to a Quickley sophmore slump. Dump the kid on the bench 5 games into the season. Should do wonders for his game. That's brilliant coaching and player development.

And when either Rose or Kemba break down because you're playing them 30 minutes each a game, I'm sure an unproven rook who Thibs doesn't have in the rotation will fill in perfectly nicely.

Next game's post: How we would be undefeated if Thibs just gave 3 point threat Knox some burn.

Where's the click bait in these threads? Oh wait...

If you were to bench IQ for a game or two - I don't know about five- and that is how he responded, then he is mentally weak and doesn't belong here - the fact is player development and coaching sometimes requires sending a message.

I feel confident Thibs has this. But you have to think eventually some kind of move will be needed - perhaps it happens in a loss where we're blown out or just not clicking.

Having a hard time understanding the obsession with benching IQ in this forum. He's averaging 6 shots in less than 14 minutes per game and only turned the ball over 3 times in 5 games. He works hard on D and his rotations have improved, hustles and maintains a significant amount of energy when on the floor. What are we benching him for and for what lesson? To shoot at a better percentage after the first 5 games? What type of lesson is that teaching a 2nd year player who is a streak shooter with unlimited range?

Do fans even understand what Thibs is driving here? He loves guys who sacrifice and of work it on D. He does not sweat shooting slumps.

You must have noticed there is a need for a scapegoat (at 4 - 1) and whipping boy. Payton (who had a solid appearance for the Suns two nights ago) is gone. Kemba was in line but has shut them up (for now). Once upon a time it was Randle but that was ages ago (unless he misses a few more foul shots). RJ one time also but is in the clear for a few more games anyway. Obi's dunks are loved although he isn't on the thickest of ice. Knox (unlike Frank for whatever reason) is just a nonentity.

So Quickley it is.

I think Briggs point is that while we're 4 & 1 (yea!) we could easily have lost 2 of those games. Last night was one where granted Chicago stepped up their defense, we struggled to score. Obi is one player that athletically can help make things happen - dunks and lay ups.

And IQ normally is the player to get those baskets, but he has been cold of late.

No one is asking to fire Thibs...yet!

The Knicks played a dominating game for 46 minutes against the Bulls. With ~2 minutes left they were up by 13 points. With their main players/starters on the floor in the last 2 mins, they went cold. EF missed an open 3, Randle missed an easy put back, Kemba dribbled into traffic and missed a 12 footer, Randle missed 2 free throws. I'm wondering how this close call was somehow IQ's fault or how replacing him with Grimes would have created a better outcome in the last 2 minutes when neither of them (nor Obi as well) would even be on the floor in the final 2 minutes anyway?

BRIGGS wrote:I think it’s time to replace Quickley w Grimes

Too much non team basketball last 3 min Again. It’s throw it to Julius and move away.

Rose still Should be the pg the last 3 min. We could play Rose abd Kemba together with lead if needed

And lastly Obi needs ten more minutes hes gotta get 20-24

I know post-game mental diarrhea is your thing but I'll play. Most of your points make no sense.
First question, did you watch the game?

Your thread topic is we won but need to make some alterations? Yet you bing up IQ? Obi? How does that address the one issue last night? Which was the collapse in the last three minutes? IQ was not in the game. Obi is rarely in at the end of games. And you wanted to take out Walker, who was having the best game of all the Knicks? You claim that we needed to play more "Team basketball" in the last three minutes but you wanted to have Rose in? He wasn't exactly the pass-first PG last night? He had 1 assist in 19 minutes? He was also back to his jump TO's. As for ISO down the stretch. You do know this is the NBA right? I crack up how often guys that claim they watch the NBA seem to forget that NBA basketball is ISO ball down the stretch. Please tell me what tight game you have watched in the NBA where they are passing the ball around like the Harlem Globe Trotters. It does not happen. Most teams will try to limit passing (risks more turnovers) and kill clock with the end goal to get their best player a shot. Sure no one likes it, Kinda like teams killing the clock in the NFL but that is what takes place. So why so surprised? If Randle continued to do what he was doing earlier in the 4th (drawing fouls) we would not be talking about it. Sure...he needs to improve his kick-outs and may have been forcing things due to the bad shooting game he was having but no reason to say we should do a whole bunch of fancy plays up 13. Walker said it well at the end of the game, this team will go as our best player goes. (Which is Randle for some of you that do not get it)

By far the worst suggestion is that IQ be benched for Grimes. This shows no understanding of organized sports. No understanding of coaching. It's comical to suggest that a coach bench a second-year kid that had a great rookie year. After just 5 games. Great way to develop the youth and a great message for anyone on the team. Kill it for a whole year but you will lose your spot if you have a tough couple of games. And all because of a hunch you have from a couple of quarters that you saw Grimes play well? Still waiting for some of your other hunches to come true.