wargames wrote:Maybe spend a future first on Cam Reddish to try and make NY a better Zion landing spot

And hire Coach K as an assistant?

knicks1248 wrote:A center who can shoot 3's and defend the rim..See Myles Turner.

Given the rosters for both teams, how do you see a trade? Turner makes 20mil? Mitch on the books for 1.5mm.
TJ warren could have figured into this some how. I think we cant trade free agents until after December?
Turner would be a nice piece with Noel backing him up. How do we get there?

Philc1 wrote:Why do you guys think the pacers are so desperate to trade Turner?

And even if they did, they aren’t giving him up for peanuts it would probably cost us RJ and Mitch. No thanks

I don't think it'd would cost RJ, but Mitch would definitely go in that scenario. I'm not sure how desperate they are, but I'm pretty sure they're the ones who are the source for most of these rumors. Maybe trying to build a trade market?

Philc1 wrote:Why do you guys think the pacers are so desperate to trade Turner?

And even if they did, they aren’t giving him up for peanuts it would probably cost us RJ and Mitch. No thanks

The main reason is Sabonis is a center. He’s similar in skill set to Randle before Randle became a shooter and defender. Sabonis is less mobile. He’s not a PF. Turner has 2 more seasons on his fair contract and becomes less valuable as free agency becomes closer. They need to move Sabonis to center and find a more suitable PF to take advantage of Sabonis’ passing. Toppin is a fit there to be honest, it’s just a matter of if we would do that.

I think Mitch, Obi and knox for Turner gets your there cap wise. Probably have to throw in a pick too.

Knixkik wrote:

Philc1 wrote:Why do you guys think the pacers are so desperate to trade Turner?

And even if they did, they aren’t giving him up for peanuts it would probably cost us RJ and Mitch. No thanks

The main reason is Sabonis is a center. He’s similar in skill set to Randle before Randle became a shooter and defender. Sabonis is less mobile. He’s not a PF. Turner has 2 more seasons on his fair contract and becomes less valuable as free agency becomes closer. They need to move Sabonis to center and find a more suitable PF to take advantage of Sabonis’ passing. Toppin is a fit there to be honest, it’s just a matter of if we would do that.

I think Mitch, Obi and knox for Turner gets your there cap wise. Probably have to throw in a pick too.

Yup! You do this trade, Toppin will be very limited here as thibs is not comfortable playing him and Randle together, especially with solid depth at center.

If we do the trade(Mitch,Knox and toppin), we can sign Millsap to be the back up of Randle

Turner/Noel
Randle/Millsap
Barrett/Burks
Fournier/IQ
Kemba/Rose

Balance 5
Sims
Gibson
McBride
Grimes
vildoza

Solid roster with good depth. Our rookies will be glued to the bench unless injuries or load management. Hoping they use the g league intensively

But I’m pretty sure that once all the new contracts become eligible for trade, we’ll try to do some bigger trade. I’m kind of sure the FO will do due diligence around Beal and Lillard. Whether any of these trades will happen is questionable, but I’m sure Rose and the rest of the team will try it.

Everyone mentions Turner, but I think he would end up costing more than one thinks. If we fail to bring in one of the top players (Beal, Lillard), it is possible that we will try to do some minor trade, although I would not be surprised if we do nothing in that case and stay with this roster.

xavier wrote:I don’t believe we are planning any trade at the moment. FO has done what they could in the market and I believe this is the roster we are entering the season with.

But I’m pretty sure that once all the new contracts become eligible for trade, we’ll try to do some bigger trade. I’m kind of sure the FO will do due diligence around Beal and Lillard. Whether any of these trades will happen is questionable, but I’m sure Rose and the rest of the team will try it.

Everyone mentions Turner, but I think he would end up costing more than one thinks. If we fail to bring in one of the top players (Beal, Lillard), it is possible that we will try to do some minor trade, although I would not be surprised if we do nothing in that case and stay with this roster.

I agree that the roster is pretty much set. I'm just not sure what happens with Bacon， Vildoza， and the rookies.

Knixkik wrote:

TLover wrote:Jaren Jackson Jr for Mitch, Knox and 3 first rounders would work for me. But Obi or Quickly would probably have to be put in the deal.

Mitch is one of my favorite Knicks but his looming contract situation could be an issue.

JJJ with his ability to stretch the floor (and everything else he can do) would make everyone better.

Similar to a Turner deal, i can see a deal centered around Obi and Mitch, but with more draft picks included. I'm not sure what Memphis' plan is. They seem stuck between wanting to compete and wanting to save money/rebuild. Jackson has injury concerns, and we will have to wait on an extension there, but giving Jackson's connection to the front office, coaching staff, and area, I'm sure they are keeping a close eye on him. In fact, with all of the Turner talk, i'm surprised there isn't more talk about Jackson.

Memphis Moved Valachunas for Steve adams. Until otherwise noted they will play him and perhaps bring in Jackson who could play the 4. From office connects with his dad does not change his value to Memphis or his medical. Advantage is his dad likely knows his issues intimately. But his dad also wants him to get paid big time also!!!! There exists a conflict.

Philc1 wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

Philc1 wrote:Why do you guys think the pacers are so desperate to trade Turner?

And even if they did, they aren’t giving him up for peanuts it would probably cost us RJ and Mitch. No thanks

The main reason is Sabonis is a center. He’s similar in skill set to Randle before Randle became a shooter and defender. Sabonis is less mobile. He’s not a PF. Turner has 2 more seasons on his fair contract and becomes less valuable as free agency becomes closer. They need to move Sabonis to center and find a more suitable PF to take advantage of Sabonis’ passing. Toppin is a fit there to be honest, it’s just a matter of if we would do that.

I think Mitch, Obi and knox for Turner gets your there cap wise. Probably have to throw in a pick too.

You sure you’re not confusing Sabonis with his dad? He’s forward in today’s nba

And no that’s way too much to trade just to upgrade at C

It’s well documented over the last couple of seasons that Indiana feels he’s better utilized as a center but obviously hasn’t completely committed to the breakup for the 2 bigs. I think he can play either position but he’s not the perfect defender for either position.