knicks1248 wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

KnickDanger wrote:God I'm sick of the get a star crap. More so from media than guileless posters. Three of the last four teams standing in this year's playoffs were not built that way. I am trusting (for now) our current FO of which Perry is a big part are seeing the way to go is building from the ground up, acquiring assets and maintaining flexibility. Then hopefully drafting smart, making solid trades and/or FA signings, then coaching up. If a big name falls within that philosophy then fine.

Starphuch worked for Lakers. Then not.
Bucks are not the darling of media.
Suns were up 2-0 some well known analysts were talking dynasty.
Bucks, like the Raptors two years earlier have been contending and as fast as it could have gone wrong for them it righted itself and they were fortuitous to pull it off. Shyt has to come together and it did.
Good for them! There are many times the best team does not win for a host of reasons but if your the last one standing you earned a chip and I’m not taking a thing away from them. NBA he a few feel good stories this year and as said it was refreshing!

Next year it might revert to the Nets, Lakers, Nuggets, or Perhaps PHilly. The narrative by media goes with the hot dot.

Remember, Dolan drives the direction of the team. Many times its the owner who drives the direction of the team. If knicks are to starphuch it’s Leon and co. Job to get assets and cap space to make it work. Not just Perry or Leon that decides the direction of the team. Its the owner 9 times out of 10. If team is patient and developing its the owner that has to agree to take the financial hit of a losing team. Tank? Owner decides. Go all in? Owner eats taxes.

Dolan deserves a lot of credit for once not listening to the ignorant clowns on ESPN and instead standing pat and being willing to build the right way through the draft.

And this is without Silver doing us any favors. During this rebuild which started 3 years ago we have had 1 top 3 pick. The rest of the roster is mid to late first round picks, second round picks, mid level free agents and castoffs nobody else wanted.

Dolan did the right thing and was patient. The man deserves kudos

What exactly did ESPN say that Dolan ignored?

We haven't traded a 1st round pick in 5 yrs, think the last one was in the Bargiani trade

Other than RJ and IQ, the picks have been nothing to write home about.

Dolan was getting trashed daily by ESPN the year before last. KD and Kyrie burning us, Firing Fizdale, trading KP for picks, RJ not even making all rookie 2nd team etc. we got roasted for all of that by the people who know everything

Philc1 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

KnickDanger wrote:God I'm sick of the get a star crap. More so from media than guileless posters. Three of the last four teams standing in this year's playoffs were not built that way. I am trusting (for now) our current FO of which Perry is a big part are seeing the way to go is building from the ground up, acquiring assets and maintaining flexibility. Then hopefully drafting smart, making solid trades and/or FA signings, then coaching up. If a big name falls within that philosophy then fine.

Starphuch worked for Lakers. Then not.
Bucks are not the darling of media.
Suns were up 2-0 some well known analysts were talking dynasty.
Bucks, like the Raptors two years earlier have been contending and as fast as it could have gone wrong for them it righted itself and they were fortuitous to pull it off. Shyt has to come together and it did.
Good for them! There are many times the best team does not win for a host of reasons but if your the last one standing you earned a chip and I’m not taking a thing away from them. NBA he a few feel good stories this year and as said it was refreshing!

Next year it might revert to the Nets, Lakers, Nuggets, or Perhaps PHilly. The narrative by media goes with the hot dot.

Remember, Dolan drives the direction of the team. Many times its the owner who drives the direction of the team. If knicks are to starphuch it’s Leon and co. Job to get assets and cap space to make it work. Not just Perry or Leon that decides the direction of the team. Its the owner 9 times out of 10. If team is patient and developing its the owner that has to agree to take the financial hit of a losing team. Tank? Owner decides. Go all in? Owner eats taxes.

Dolan deserves a lot of credit for once not listening to the ignorant clowns on ESPN and instead standing pat and being willing to build the right way through the draft.

And this is without Silver doing us any favors. During this rebuild which started 3 years ago we have had 1 top 3 pick. The rest of the roster is mid to late first round picks, second round picks, mid level free agents and castoffs nobody else wanted.

Dolan did the right thing and was patient. The man deserves kudos

ITs a nice thought but we are far from out of the woods and other than only IQ stands as a rotation guy at this point. I like OBI but he has to prove himself.
That we were fortunate to have the RJ pick was a no brainer to get him but at least we did not get cute and trade down or out.
Over all I like the direction and opportunity we have. Truth is While Phil and Mills did little great they did not do anything awful. We all hate Noah’s 6mm payoff but it did not kill us.
That we recovered from the KP betrayal and the Fiz Folly as we did regardless of the cast of FO demonstrates constraint on Dolan and a bit of a longer term vision.

The key is to avoid doing something stupid like trading our entire roster for Lillard or Beal

Yep -- the "Clowns" may not be s#!tting on the Knicks for now (whatever the trend calls for) -- instead it's the "whatever it takes" take on getting an over 30 maxxed out "star." You know -- Randle, RJ, plus multiple #1's for Westbrook -- as proposed last Fall/Winter by the pundits. Now it's Beal, Lillard or whomever. Gut the roster and assets for one older guy. Yeah, so far Dolan by way of his FO is ignoring that tripe. Once upon a time he would not have and we know what that got us.

KnickDanger wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

Nalod wrote:

KnickDanger wrote:God I'm sick of the get a star crap. More so from media than guileless posters. Three of the last four teams standing in this year's playoffs were not built that way. I am trusting (for now) our current FO of which Perry is a big part are seeing the way to go is building from the ground up, acquiring assets and maintaining flexibility. Then hopefully drafting smart, making solid trades and/or FA signings, then coaching up. If a big name falls within that philosophy then fine.

Starphuch worked for Lakers. Then not.
Bucks are not the darling of media.
Suns were up 2-0 some well known analysts were talking dynasty.
Bucks, like the Raptors two years earlier have been contending and as fast as it could have gone wrong for them it righted itself and they were fortuitous to pull it off. Shyt has to come together and it did.
Good for them! There are many times the best team does not win for a host of reasons but if your the last one standing you earned a chip and I’m not taking a thing away from them. NBA he a few feel good stories this year and as said it was refreshing!

Next year it might revert to the Nets, Lakers, Nuggets, or Perhaps PHilly. The narrative by media goes with the hot dot.

Remember, Dolan drives the direction of the team. Many times its the owner who drives the direction of the team. If knicks are to starphuch it’s Leon and co. Job to get assets and cap space to make it work. Not just Perry or Leon that decides the direction of the team. Its the owner 9 times out of 10. If team is patient and developing its the owner that has to agree to take the financial hit of a losing team. Tank? Owner decides. Go all in? Owner eats taxes.

Dolan deserves a lot of credit for once not listening to the ignorant clowns on ESPN and instead standing pat and being willing to build the right way through the draft.

And this is without Silver doing us any favors. During this rebuild which started 3 years ago we have had 1 top 3 pick. The rest of the roster is mid to late first round picks, second round picks, mid level free agents and castoffs nobody else wanted.

Dolan did the right thing and was patient. The man deserves kudos

ITs a nice thought but we are far from out of the woods and other than only IQ stands as a rotation guy at this point. I like OBI but he has to prove himself.
That we were fortunate to have the RJ pick was a no brainer to get him but at least we did not get cute and trade down or out.
Over all I like the direction and opportunity we have. Truth is While Phil and Mills did little great they did not do anything awful. We all hate Noah’s 6mm payoff but it did not kill us.
That we recovered from the KP betrayal and the Fiz Folly as we did regardless of the cast of FO demonstrates constraint on Dolan and a bit of a longer term vision.

The key is to avoid doing something stupid like trading our entire roster for Lillard or Beal

Yep -- the "Clowns" may not be s#!tting on the Knicks for now (whatever the trend calls for) -- instead it's the "whatever it takes" take on getting an over 30 maxxed out "star." You know -- Randle, RJ, plus multiple #1's for Westbrook -- as proposed last Fall/Winter by the pundits. Now it's Beal, Lillard or whomever. Gut the roster and assets for one older guy. Yeah, so far Dolan by way of his FO is ignoring that tripe. Once upon a time he would not have and we know what that got us.

Yeah the Knick haters are now doing the “knicks gotta trade the farm for Dame Dizzle” nonsense. Twitter is nauseating right now

Such a back handed slap basically implying the roster is trash and we’re better off with Lillard and no supporting cast