Knixkik wrote:Some fallout here. Lowry is likely gone with his replacement at pick 4. Cleveland may also look at a guard and try to move Collin Sexton on draft night, who was a Leon Rose client.

smackeddog wrote:Not as exciting/nerve wracking for us this year for a change!

But if the lottery is rigged, guess who ends up top 4 with reasoning and we'll see what happens!

My guesses would be: Raptors as a thanks for agreeing to be in Tampa Bay (likely 4th)

Rockets (owner is in huge dire financial problems)

Minnesota DO NOT land a top 3, so the Warriors get their pick, to help them out by allowing them to trade 2 firsts with Wiseman for a vet that can help them win now (Warriors were meant to be a huge cash cow for the league, so it can't afford to see them rot on the vine)

OKC fall out the top 4 to punish tanking, but they have so many firsts they'll likely package them plus SGA to trade up to get Cade

Ha ha! My predictions were all true! Conclusive proof that the lottery is rigged! (joke, probably just fluke, but it will keep me suspicious for years to come)

Actual results:

1. Detroit
2. Houston
3. Cleveland
4. Toronto
5. Orlando
6. Oklahoma City
7. Golden State (from Minnesota)
8. Orlando (from Chicago)
9. Sacramento
10. New Orleans
11. Charlotte
12. San Antonio
13. Indiana
14. Golden State

jk

Knixkik wrote:Some fallout here. Lowry is likely gone with his replacement at pick 4. Cleveland may also look at a guard and try to move Collin Sexton on draft night, who was a Leon Rose client.

He is intriguing. Tough to get that potiental upside that young. I wonder if our 2 firsts this year and Toppin gets it done

TPercy wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

Knixkik wrote:Some fallout here. Lowry is likely gone with his replacement at pick 4. Cleveland may also look at a guard and try to move Collin Sexton on draft night, who was a Leon Rose client.

He is intriguing. Tough to get that potiental upside that young. I wonder if our 2 firsts this year and Toppin gets it done

Throw in a protected pick and it gets the job done I think. However if they take Mobley then no deal I’m afraid.

So the issue is what would they accept in return for Sexton and given his stats they probably would want quite a bit unless they consider unloading Kevin Love's contract as valuable compensation.

Welpee wrote:

TPercy wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

Knixkik wrote:Some fallout here. Lowry is likely gone with his replacement at pick 4. Cleveland may also look at a guard and try to move Collin Sexton on draft night, who was a Leon Rose client.

He is intriguing. Tough to get that potiental upside that young. I wonder if our 2 firsts this year and Toppin gets it done

Throw in a protected pick and it gets the job done I think. However if they take Mobley then no deal I’m afraid.

Well...there was talk about moving Sexton even before the lottery. Sexton is really a PG/combo guard playing SG. He and Garland form a very undersized backcourt and I believe together they were one of the worst starting defensive backcourts in the NBA. Also there was some talk about his teammate thinking it shoots too much.

So the issue is what would they accept in return for Sexton and given his stats they probably would want quite a bit unless they consider unloading Kevin Love's contract as valuable compensation.

The thing is that Sexton is still a really valuable piece. He's a pretty damn good volume scorer at the age of 22( 24.3 pts per game on 57.3% TS, 48% FG and 38% from 3 is no joke) and has been improving his game every year. His playmaking is bad, but his improvement in that department is pretty promising, so if there is a way to make it work, then they will. Plus, Should Jalen Green fall to them, he's not a very good defender at this stage so nothing much would change. If they snag Mobley, then they could try slotting him at the 4 with Allen.

They would definitely love a team to take KLove's deal. His injuries/ mental health issues have really hurt him not to mention his on court outbursts don't really reflect well on the team. No one would take on that contract but us doing so would give them like 60m in cap space.

Assuming Green does fall to them for whatever reason, I think a fair trade would be something like Obi + Knox + 2023 unprotected pick + protected pick in 2025 + pick swap + future 2nd for Love and Sexton.

TPercy wrote:

Welpee wrote:

TPercy wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

Knixkik wrote:Some fallout here. Lowry is likely gone with his replacement at pick 4. Cleveland may also look at a guard and try to move Collin Sexton on draft night, who was a Leon Rose client.

He is intriguing. Tough to get that potiental upside that young. I wonder if our 2 firsts this year and Toppin gets it done

Throw in a protected pick and it gets the job done I think. However if they take Mobley then no deal I’m afraid.

Well...there was talk about moving Sexton even before the lottery. Sexton is really a PG/combo guard playing SG. He and Garland form a very undersized backcourt and I believe together they were one of the worst starting defensive backcourts in the NBA. Also there was some talk about his teammate thinking it shoots too much.

So the issue is what would they accept in return for Sexton and given his stats they probably would want quite a bit unless they consider unloading Kevin Love's contract as valuable compensation.

The thing is that Sexton is still a really valuable piece. He's a pretty damn good volume scorer at the age of 22( 24.3 pts per game on 57.3% TS, 48% FG and 38% from 3 is no joke) and has been improving his game every year. His playmaking is bad, but his improvement in that department is pretty promising, so if there is a way to make it work, then they will. Plus, Should Jalen Green fall to them, he's not a very good defender at this stage so nothing much would change. If they snag Mobley, then they could try slotting him at the 4 with Allen.

They would definitely love a team to take KLove's deal. His injuries/ mental health issues have really hurt him not to mention his on court outbursts don't really reflect well on the team. No one would take on that contract but us doing so would give them like 60m in cap space.

Assuming Green does fall to them for whatever reason, I think a fair trade would be something like Obi + Knox + 2023 unprotected pick + protected pick in 2025 + pick swap + future 2nd for Love and Sexton.

Welpee wrote:

TPercy wrote:

Welpee wrote:

TPercy wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

Knixkik wrote:Some fallout here. Lowry is likely gone with his replacement at pick 4. Cleveland may also look at a guard and try to move Collin Sexton on draft night, who was a Leon Rose client.

He is intriguing. Tough to get that potiental upside that young. I wonder if our 2 firsts this year and Toppin gets it done

Throw in a protected pick and it gets the job done I think. However if they take Mobley then no deal I’m afraid.

Well...there was talk about moving Sexton even before the lottery. Sexton is really a PG/combo guard playing SG. He and Garland form a very undersized backcourt and I believe together they were one of the worst starting defensive backcourts in the NBA. Also there was some talk about his teammate thinking it shoots too much.

So the issue is what would they accept in return for Sexton and given his stats they probably would want quite a bit unless they consider unloading Kevin Love's contract as valuable compensation.

The thing is that Sexton is still a really valuable piece. He's a pretty damn good volume scorer at the age of 22( 24.3 pts per game on 57.3% TS, 48% FG and 38% from 3 is no joke) and has been improving his game every year. His playmaking is bad, but his improvement in that department is pretty promising, so if there is a way to make it work, then they will. Plus, Should Jalen Green fall to them, he's not a very good defender at this stage so nothing much would change. If they snag Mobley, then they could try slotting him at the 4 with Allen.

They would definitely love a team to take KLove's deal. His injuries/ mental health issues have really hurt him not to mention his on court outbursts don't really reflect well on the team. No one would take on that contract but us doing so would give them like 60m in cap space.

Assuming Green does fall to them for whatever reason, I think a fair trade would be something like Obi + Knox + 2023 unprotected pick + protected pick in 2025 + pick swap + future 2nd for Love and Sexton.

Wow, that's a lot, especially for a player nearing the end of his rookie deal. If a team includes Love's contract in the deal I think he could be had for less than that.

If we trade for Sexton we are definitely giving him a max extension.