So his as can kick rocks and continue to struggle with the Celtic, who should trade him to another struggling team.

Nalod wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:That dude didn't even give the knicks a meeting when he was a FA, a local dude from the area wanted nothing to do with the struggling knicks.

So his as can kick rocks and continue to struggle with the Celtic, who should trade him to another struggling team.

So if kemba had shown proper respect like to some Mafia Don, like ask for your friendship or offer a cup of coffee you’d then welcome him with open arms? Or this really about his on court basketball talent?

“The enemy of my Enemy is my friend”.......

Covered before, but he seemingly has a chronic knee problem that really started affecting him in the 2019-2020 season. He was basically load-managed this season and will likely need the same treatment moving forward. Load managed players tend to mess up team chemistry a bit. See Boston, but also see Miami this year: the aging Dragic was in and out of the lineup and I think that impacted the output of their role players. (everyone's fave "Herro" is a little miscast as a fulltime PG, as are the rest of the Miami "interchangeable" horde of guards)

I still like the idea of a Rozier-type player that isn't afraid to take big shots. He's like a better version of what we got with Rivers (or, really, a baby version of Dwyane Wade) and I think would be a very solid starter quality player. I wouldn't expect him to elevate the team the way a CP3 would. I think popping CP3 on our roster in place of Elfrid would have given us 10+ more wins this season. If we had the same roster + Rozier instead of Elfrid, maybe only 2-3 more wins?

I don't think we'd be in a terrible place developing Quickley - but I think at his current level of development, he benefits with the Knicks doing our current style of running the PG through Randle/RJ/Burks and him being a secondary creator. He may not be ready to be a fulltime starting quality PG yet. (or maybe it's not in the cards for his future) But as we saw in the Atlanta series, having a more dynamic ball creator (and not a forward) running the offense would probably make our offense much more dangerous and unpredictable.

Knixkik wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

Philc1 wrote:If we can’t get one of Ball, Dinwiddie or Lavine yes. We can even get theCeltics to give us their first rd pick

As a back-up plan its not awful from a flyer standpoint. The problem is we punt on free agency the following year.

Look at Jimmy Butler when he went to Miami. You don’t need to have cap space to get the best free agents. Just draft assets. The top free agents will go where they want regardless of who has cap space. Using the space this year essentially just puts us out of the running of the second tier or lower guys in 2022.

I will say this until draft day; unless there’s a big opportunity during the draft to acquire a star, use 19 on the best player available that fits a need and move pick 21 for a future first rounder. Kick the can down the road and keep the pool of assets large. Then use the cap space to get better now. Every year cap space becomes less valuable and draft picks become more valuable. We need to stay in front of that.

If we get the Celtics pick which I believe is 17th overall we have 3x first round picks this year. We could possibly use the 3 picks to trade up and get into the draft lottery to possibly get Cade

Philc1 wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

Philc1 wrote:If we can’t get one of Ball, Dinwiddie or Lavine yes. We can even get theCeltics to give us their first rd pick

As a back-up plan its not awful from a flyer standpoint. The problem is we punt on free agency the following year.

Look at Jimmy Butler when he went to Miami. You don’t need to have cap space to get the best free agents. Just draft assets. The top free agents will go where they want regardless of who has cap space. Using the space this year essentially just puts us out of the running of the second tier or lower guys in 2022.

I will say this until draft day; unless there’s a big opportunity during the draft to acquire a star, use 19 on the best player available that fits a need and move pick 21 for a future first rounder. Kick the can down the road and keep the pool of assets large. Then use the cap space to get better now. Every year cap space becomes less valuable and draft picks become more valuable. We need to stay in front of that.

If we get the Celtics pick which I believe is 17th overall we have 3x first round picks this year. We could possibly use the 3 picks to trade up and get into the draft lottery to possibly get Cade

I don't know how your thought process works but reality doesn't unfold like that

Do better man, you are constantly just throwing stuff at the wall and seeing if it sticks

HoustonSprewell84 wrote:No

No

ESOMKnicks wrote:

Philc1 wrote:If we get the Celtics pick which I believe is 17th overall we have 3x first round picks this year. We could possibly use the 3 picks to trade up and get into the draft lottery to possibly get Cade

If you want a Cade, you tank last season and hope the lottery bounces your way. We are not getting Cade unless he either proves not to be worth it, or the team that drafts him mucks it up big time four years from now. In other words, we are not getting Cade. But we have our respectability, yeeepeee!!!

Only one team gets Cade. I'll take respectability over a fart in the wind.

Philc1 wrote:

ESOMKnicks wrote:

Philc1 wrote:If we get the Celtics pick which I believe is 17th overall we have 3x first round picks this year. We could possibly use the 3 picks to trade up and get into the draft lottery to possibly get Cade

If you want a Cade, you tank last season and hope the lottery bounces your way. We are not getting Cade unless he either proves not to be worth it, or the team that drafts him mucks it up big time four years from now. In other words, we are not getting Cade. But we have our respectability, yeeepeee!!!

Not necessarily true. We have tanked multiple seasons in recent years the best we did was the #3 pick overall. If we trade with any team in the lottery we have a shot at Cade

NBA Draft Lottery is June 22. A little more than a week from now.

Let us know when you think trades can start happening.