TPercy wrote:Yeah I agree I just wish we were in 2022 :(

Jimbo5 wrote:I think there are 2 players the knicks need to upgrade in the roster, a starting PG and a starting SG/SF. The knicks dont need to fill them up this offseason. They should keep their eye on the 2022 free agency prize. Maybe try to sold the PG problem this offseason with Ball, Payne, Nunn, Graham and just get a stop gap SG/SF. For all we know the long term PG solution is already in the team(IQ or Luca). All the knicks need to do to keep the 2022 free agency hopes alive is to continue to be competitive and somehow improve more than this season.

What is the final year when we have cap space before we need to commit long term to RJ? How does it work. We exercise a club option on him for the 2022-23 season. And then we either ink him to a max extension that same season, capping ourselves out for summer 2023 free agency campaign, or make him a qualifying offer with the plan to sign him to a max as an FA in 2024?
But from KPs experience, is it not that a one year qualifying offer is only accepted by a player who does not want to re-sign long-term with the team that drafted him?

The pickings for the 2022 FA campaign are pretty slim: Curry will be too old, Kawhi likely to re-up this season, LaVine I am not convinced about, since his Bulls have done jack so far, though I would still extend him this season if I am the Bulls. And the likes of Harris, Ingles, Rubio, Valanciunas, Rozier or Aaron Gordon are not going to complete a Big 3 for us. I wonder how many of the 2018 draftees make it to RFA. Top guys like Luka, Trae, SGA or Ayton most likely not, but we might get a shot at Mikal, whom everyone here seems to have a hard-on about. And the big dudes like Wendell Carter, Marvin Bagley or Jaren Jackson I am not convinced about at all.

ESOMKnicks wrote:

Jimbo5 wrote:I think there are 2 players the knicks need to upgrade in the roster, a starting PG and a starting SG/SF. The knicks dont need to fill them up this offseason. They should keep their eye on the 2022 free agency prize. Maybe try to sold the PG problem this offseason with Ball, Payne, Nunn, Graham and just get a stop gap SG/SF. For all we know the long term PG solution is already in the team(IQ or Luca). All the knicks need to do to keep the 2022 free agency hopes alive is to continue to be competitive and somehow improve more than this season.

What is the final year when we have cap space before we need to commit long term to RJ? How does it work. We exercise a club option on him for the 2022-23 season. And then we either ink him to a max extension that same season, capping ourselves out for summer 2023 free agency campaign, or make him a qualifying offer with the plan to sign him to a max as an FA in 2024?
But from KPs experience, is it not that a one year qualifying offer is only accepted by a player who does not want to re-sign long-term with the team that drafted him?

The pickings for the 2022 FA campaign are pretty slim: Curry will be too old, Kawhi likely to re-up this season, LaVine I am not convinced about, since his Bulls have done jack so far, though I would still extend him this season if I am the Bulls. And the likes of Harris, Ingles, Rubio, Valanciunas, Rozier or Aaron Gordon are not going to complete a Big 3 for us. I wonder how many of the 2018 draftees make it to RFA. Top guys like Luka, Trae, SGA or Ayton most likely not, but we might get a shot at Mikal, whom everyone here seems to have a hard-on about. And the big dudes like Wendell Carter, Marvin Bagley or Jaren Jackson I am not convinced about at all.

Feel like you could use a primer on these topics

http://www.ultimateknicks.com/forum/topic.asp?t=62990
https://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/players.html

ESOMKnicks wrote:The trick is to get a top 10 player without losing Randle or RJ. And I do not see a trade or an FA signing like that on the horizon unless someone gets really mad at his current team.
The top of this year's draft offers better odds of getting that eventual top 10 player, but we went in a different direction...

I am still hopeful that RJ develops into a Batman. Robins would be easier to find.

That’s why we shouldn’t lock up Randle long term this summer. Take a page from the Pat Riley 2010 playbook let your star hit UFA, add stars, then go over the cap to resign your guy using Bird rights