xavier wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

Welpee wrote:

xavier wrote:

wargames wrote:

xavier wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:I really love Thibs as a coach. It's well deserved. He is our best coach since Lenny Wilkens. But he is not perfect and his offensive schemes need a major overhaul. Next season will be a big test for him. Will he evolve into an even better version of himself or will it be ISO after ISO with no end in sight. We shall see

Thibs is not an offensive guru, that’s a clear thing. But even if we had a coach who is much better in that segment, there is no chance he would repeat Thibs’ success who defensively made a miracle out of this team.

I want to say that COY is more than deservedly his.

They need to hire an offensive coach assistant or an offensive coordinator. Not to make calls in game but to work on the schemes and rotation before them.

That sounds reasonable. Who did that part of the job anyway? Thibs himself in consultation with assistants or was there a strict division?

Thibs is a great motivator and call maker in the game, but it would be good to have some modern offensive analyst with him.

I think you guys are making assumptions that may not be true. He probably already has someone in that role. Based on what I've read about Thibs, I seriously doubt that he's the exact opposite of D'Antoni who had zero interest in defense had a coaching philosophy of acquire better offensive players and get as many shot attempts up as possible.

I think Thib cares and works on the offense even though defense is his focus. Hard to be great at both given our talent level.

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If Thibs only cares about defense, why is Frankie glued to the bench as a cameo bit player? Because he doesn't recognize Frankie would be StephIverCurry if only the right sets were being called?

Maybe we didn't understand each other the best, where did I say that Thibs only cares about defense or that he doesn't have anyone by his side for the offensive part?

First, I prefer defense and that's why I like Thibs so much, but second, whether he had someone in charge of the attack or not, the fact is that we could have been a little more modern and diverse in the attack.

Modernity and diversity require the right tools in the bag. You can X and O yourself ad nauseum before every game, but without a decent PG and shooters, that dog don't hunt.

martin wrote:

xavier wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

Welpee wrote:

xavier wrote:

wargames wrote:

xavier wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:I really love Thibs as a coach. It's well deserved. He is our best coach since Lenny Wilkens. But he is not perfect and his offensive schemes need a major overhaul. Next season will be a big test for him. Will he evolve into an even better version of himself or will it be ISO after ISO with no end in sight. We shall see

Thibs is not an offensive guru, that’s a clear thing. But even if we had a coach who is much better in that segment, there is no chance he would repeat Thibs’ success who defensively made a miracle out of this team.

I want to say that COY is more than deservedly his.

They need to hire an offensive coach assistant or an offensive coordinator. Not to make calls in game but to work on the schemes and rotation before them.

That sounds reasonable. Who did that part of the job anyway? Thibs himself in consultation with assistants or was there a strict division?

Thibs is a great motivator and call maker in the game, but it would be good to have some modern offensive analyst with him.

I think you guys are making assumptions that may not be true. He probably already has someone in that role. Based on what I've read about Thibs, I seriously doubt that he's the exact opposite of D'Antoni who had zero interest in defense had a coaching philosophy of acquire better offensive players and get as many shot attempts up as possible.

I think Thib cares and works on the offense even though defense is his focus. Hard to be great at both given our talent level.

+1 This
If Thibs only cares about defense, why is Frankie glued to the bench as a cameo bit player? Because he doesn't recognize Frankie would be StephIverCurry if only the right sets were being called?

Maybe we didn't understand each other the best, where did I say that Thibs only cares about defense or that he doesn't have anyone by his side for the offensive part?

First, I prefer defense and that's why I like Thibs so much, but second, whether he had someone in charge of the attack or not, the fact is that we could have been a little more modern and diverse in the attack.

Is the talent level of the team ever considered or is is just expected that a coach should be able to take anyone and magically be super good?

Knicks were bereft of a PG and a wing who could put the ball on the floor (Rose aside) and you think that the offense should have been more modern and diverse in the attack?

I enjoy channeling the same thought patterns with management.

ramtour420 wrote:

Philc1 wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:I really love Thibs as a coach. It's well deserved. He is our best coach since Lenny Wilkens. But he is not perfect and his offensive schemes need a major overhaul. Next season will be a big test for him. Will he evolve into an even better version of himself or will it be ISO after ISO with no end in sight. We shall see

Woodson and D’Antoni were both better here than Wilkins

Woodsons is not head coach material and MDA needed a very specific type of player ( Nash or Harden) to be an effective head coach. He is the perfect offensive coordinator and his role with the Nets is much better suited for his abilities. Lenny Wilkens did more here with less. That's my criteria. And of course I judge by their entire resume and not just the last stop

Woodson is statistically our most successful head coach post-Van Gundy and it isn’t even close even with the year Thibs had. He got us to the playoffs twice, had a 50+ win season and won a playoff series. The roster’s window closed in 2013 and he fell on the sword and Phil hired back to back clowns Fisher and Rambus

D’Antoni also had some success. Problem is Carmelo with his iso stuff didn’t fit his system though Jeremy Lin certainly did

BillTheButcher wrote:There was no other choice , this man's team took Vegas to the cleaners with a team with the lowest payroll in the league.

smackeddog wrote:Excellent news- I really though Monty (also did a great job) had it in the bag!

It was really amazing in hindsight.

Vmart wrote:Monty should have gotten COY award. Tibs did a good job But they were the least prepared in post season. I also the young players weren’t as developed as they should have been.

Regular season voted. Playoffs don’t factor.
IN fact, it validates the talent deficiency given how ATL cleaned our clock.
You sometimes go best team, best coach. There is the Snyder votes. Or the coach who added wins TO THE REGULAR SEASON. This is were Thibs shined and took it. Monty gets CP3 and it dilutes him. Is it fair? Not always but if Knicks had gotten him, and he gained as we did it would have diluted Thibs if not more. CP3 then gets credit. I’m not being a homer here.
Nets 2nd place finish is diluted by what talent they gained. Also MDA on staff. But nets finished 2nd best in east and he did a really good job. if they finish off Bucks in 5 coach Bud could be out the door. He is flat out coaching him. Or, someone is on that team is!!!