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Welpee
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5/31/2021  8:04 AM
Philc1 wrote:
Welpee wrote:
franco12 wrote:
Welpee wrote:
Philc1 wrote:Offer whoever wins the lottery Julius, IQ, and the 4 first round picks we got next 2 years


This guy is that damn good. He might be better than Ja Morant

And we'll be exactly where we are now (if we're lucky) with no assets to build around him.

I don't think we would be. I don't think whoever wins the lottery is trading that pick, but look at what Dallas and Atlanta did - both ended up with a franchise talent. We ended up with Kevin Knox. If we had had the assets then, and the FO talent to be aware of NBA talent, we should have traded up.

If we can trade Julius, IQ & a bunch of draft picks and come away with a franchise talent like Luka or Trae Young, you do it.

...or you can end up with a Andrew Wiggins or a Marvin Bagley of a D'Angelo Russell. If the #1 pick is such a sure thing can't miss franchise player why would the other team even consider that deal?

Because it’s the timberwolves. They’re arguably the most dysfunctional franchise in the nba

Dysfunctional and being stupid are different.
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Welpee
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5/31/2021  8:10 AM
Allanfan20 wrote:
TheGame wrote:
Philc1 wrote:
TheGame wrote:We don't have the assets to trade into the top-3. We likely may offer Kevin Knox and our first pick (and maybe the third pick) if there is a top-flight point guard that falls in the 9-14 range. Otherwise, I think we stand pat or make a move like last year. In this draft, we need to a get a solid PG and a solid 6'8" -6'9" SF who can hit a 3 and guard the position.

Julius, IQ and 4 first round picks may be enough

That would be a lot to give up for an unproven rookie. That is why teams only trade up to top-3, when they already have a top 4-7 pick to offer. Otherwise, you end up giving up too much for the pick. Cade is good, but you don’t trade your #1 player, a promising rookie and 4 other picks for an unproven rookie, no matter how good that rookie might be.

Yup. I would trade Randle for the right return and I would even trade those 4 picks alone for Cade but that whole package is rough. He has his weaknesses too.

But yes.... I would really love Cade or Suggs to be on the Knicks.

Again, why would a team want picks 19 and 21 in this year's draft and two unknown draft picks in the future for the top pick in the 2021 draft? It's totally illogical not to mention it's simply a fan emotional reaction to Randle having a bad playoff series. A couple of weeks ago when Randle was balling these same people wanted to max him out. Geez I'm glad none of y'all have any say in personnel decisions.
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6/1/2021  2:14 AM    LAST EDITED: 6/1/2021  2:17 AM
Welpee wrote:
Philc1 wrote:
Welpee wrote:
franco12 wrote:
Welpee wrote:
Philc1 wrote:Offer whoever wins the lottery Julius, IQ, and the 4 first round picks we got next 2 years


This guy is that damn good. He might be better than Ja Morant

And we'll be exactly where we are now (if we're lucky) with no assets to build around him.

I don't think we would be. I don't think whoever wins the lottery is trading that pick, but look at what Dallas and Atlanta did - both ended up with a franchise talent. We ended up with Kevin Knox. If we had had the assets then, and the FO talent to be aware of NBA talent, we should have traded up.

If we can trade Julius, IQ & a bunch of draft picks and come away with a franchise talent like Luka or Trae Young, you do it.

...or you can end up with a Andrew Wiggins or a Marvin Bagley of a D'Angelo Russell. If the #1 pick is such a sure thing can't miss franchise player why would the other team even consider that deal?

Because it’s the timberwolves. They’re arguably the most dysfunctional franchise in the nba

Dysfunctional and being stupid are different.

What else do you call a team that has the worst roster in the league despite winning the draft lottery 2x and being given players like Jimmy Butler and Deangelo Russell since 2012?

Philc1
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6/1/2021  2:16 AM
Welpee wrote:
Allanfan20 wrote:
TheGame wrote:
Philc1 wrote:
TheGame wrote:We don't have the assets to trade into the top-3. We likely may offer Kevin Knox and our first pick (and maybe the third pick) if there is a top-flight point guard that falls in the 9-14 range. Otherwise, I think we stand pat or make a move like last year. In this draft, we need to a get a solid PG and a solid 6'8" -6'9" SF who can hit a 3 and guard the position.

Julius, IQ and 4 first round picks may be enough

That would be a lot to give up for an unproven rookie. That is why teams only trade up to top-3, when they already have a top 4-7 pick to offer. Otherwise, you end up giving up too much for the pick. Cade is good, but you don’t trade your #1 player, a promising rookie and 4 other picks for an unproven rookie, no matter how good that rookie might be.

Yup. I would trade Randle for the right return and I would even trade those 4 picks alone for Cade but that whole package is rough. He has his weaknesses too.

But yes.... I would really love Cade or Suggs to be on the Knicks.

Again, why would a team want picks 19 and 21 in this year's draft and two unknown draft picks in the future for the top pick in the 2021 draft? It's totally illogical not to mention it's simply a fan emotional reaction to Randle having a bad playoff series. A couple of weeks ago when Randle was balling these same people wanted to max him out. Geez I'm glad none of y'all have any say in personnel decisions.

Throw in Randle and IQ to sweeten the pot

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6/1/2021  3:22 PM
I want Jessica Alba. But not as much as I want Cade on the Knicks starting next season. The likelihood of either is about the same.
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6/1/2021  3:31 PM
I think GS (if they have/keep top 3-4 pick) would be motivated to take Randle and Mitch plus a future pick for either a top 3-4 pick or Wiseman (we'd prob have to take Wiggins as part of deal). They have a 2 year window as they're riding 32 year old Steph and a recovering Klay so they don't want to keep adding young players ideally. Randle would give them yet another scoring threat and if landed either Wiseman or a young top 3 player that would help us in the long run. While I'm not a Wiggins fan he could likely be rerouted or used off the bench. It could also free up some money potentially.
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6/1/2021  8:39 PM
Philc1 wrote:Offer whoever wins the lottery Julius, IQ, and the 4 first round picks we got next 2 years


This guy is that damn good. He might be better than Ja Morant

Do that deal we right back in the lottery....
We traded our picks away!

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6/1/2021  8:53 PM
Why on earth would the Knicks trade Randle for wiseman? And wiggins? He sucks. Cmon man.

Randle needs help. 3 games where he doesn’t carry this team and we’re dumping his ass? What The hell is going on.

How bout the Knicks kick ass tomorrow night and we go from there.

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6/1/2021  8:55 PM
This is not the best thread.
Welpee
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6/1/2021  10:07 PM
doomed wrote:Why on earth would the Knicks trade Randle for wiseman? And wiggins? He sucks. Cmon man.

Randle needs help. 3 games where he doesn’t carry this team and we’re dumping his ass? What The hell is going on.

How bout the Knicks kick ass tomorrow night and we go from there.

This is the official Knicks panic thread, the sky is falling edition.
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6/2/2021  8:10 AM
KnickDanger wrote:This is not the best thread.

It's not even the worst thread. But maybe it makes it to 37 pages?

I want Rebecca. I don't care what martin thinks.
I just hope those man hands are a genetic anomaly.

I Want Cade

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