Thibs. Payton. No plan to stop Trae, no plan to take advantage of the Hawks weakness ( Trae and Gallo's D) We basically lost game one the same way as we lost game 3, and ditto for game 4. While I love our hard nosed D and hustle our offense makes me want to throw up a little in my mouth every time. We live and die by the ISO. I hate it. We have only one mode with Randle and it's the same mode with Rose. ISO. Rinse ,repeat. When we pass we can hang with any team in the league. When we play hero ball it's game over every time

What we need is one or two more reliable scorers so we can make them pay. Reggie and Alex have been inconsistent

We also need better on ball defense for trae. When we collapse on him they’re finding the open guy. Same thing the bucks do. Big difference is giannis dunks on you. Thibs may have to put frank in the mix. Reggies length isn’t getting it dome

xblvdels3 wrote:We need a young engine pg who can score and start from there.

Cade

Philc1 wrote:

houston20 wrote:

Clean wrote:I am down for trading Randle also. I never liked ISO Melo and I like ISO Randle even less. I hated his low percentage shots but he made them all season so who was I to complain. Now when teams play hard we see just how low of a percentage those shots really are. Building a team around Randle will just lead to good regular seasons and early playoff exits.

Who are you going to get instead of randle the answer is nobody.

Obi would simply start at PF next yr

Philc1 wrote:

EwingsGlass wrote:The losses certainly hurt. That said, the difference between us listing and winning could be as simple as adding one or two players. I’m still pretty excited for this team. More exciting is what this coaching staff was able to accomplish in one year. Don’t knock Randle cause teams swarm Randle. This is why guys like Lebron want super friends on their team - so it’s hurts more to swarm him.

Don’t blow it up. Build more.

Trading Randle isn’t “blowing it up” it’s a smart personnel move we would be selling high and the roster is still largely in tact

Disagree entirely. The guy is the heart and soul of this team. It’s his work ethic that sets the tone for the team. It’s his leadership that the other players are following. The “trade Randle” concept is an emotional response to losing a series.

We are only in this series cause Randle carried the team here on his back. The fact that they could double him without punishment isn’t a reason to trade him. It’s a reason to add players to support him.

I don’t think you add back adequate value by “selling high”. When you take away the heart of the team, you are restarting. Rebuilding. We are actually pretty close to where the Hawks were last season before they added Bogs, Gallo and Lou Williams. Maybe better.

I’m looking for a PG and SF that can really move this team up a notch. This is a young team that will get better with age. There aren’t a lot of PFs that I would replace Randle with. His $20mm isn’t burying us. Build around him. Add talent. This team is going to be dangerous.

Neither is reliable shooter, they have both been missing open 3 threes.

And I’m not crazy about Quickley, we need a upgrade at PG. Rose is too old to build around.

Clean wrote:I am down for trading Randle also. I never liked ISO Melo and I like ISO Randle even less. I hated his low percentage shots but he made them all season so who was I to complain. Now when teams play hard we see just how low of a percentage those shots really are. Building a team around Randle will just lead to good regular seasons and early playoff exits.

All we need is a prime time point guard and/or another true star and we'll be fine with Randle.

BRIGGS wrote:They have much more pure talent. They have high draft picks in their young prime— a team that will also improve in years to come. They’re also very tall and have a great young pg. only reason they weren’t higher was poor coaching to start year. The hawks are simply better. We can win with determination but we’re not better

Fuck the Atlanta Hawks.

This series is not over. I still believe in this team.

I listened to this before I had major surgery. Helped calm my mind. Helps to try to see the beauty in things even when they don't meet your expectations.

This team got to the playoffs for many reasons. Those reasons didn't disappear overnight. Will there need to be hard work this offseason? Sure. Could the Knicks have done X or Y better before this point? Sure.

But right here, right now - Fuck the Atlanta Hawks.

You don't stop fighting when you are getting pounded on and it looks bleak, you come out and keep hitting back until you hear the bell ring.

y2zipper wrote:

TPercy wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:This is a disruptive eye opening loss. My personal thoughts about this team is changing. Our management has a lot to think over. I’m not sure about resigning so many older players.

I hear you on this. I still think continuity is super important but I think even if we make it out of this series we are getting a reality check on how good some of our guys are.

Knicks should trade Julius and blow this up at this point.