franco12 wrote:we absolutely need a PG. Payton has proved how important the position is, and how badly positioned we are with folks that can run the team for us. We can't count on Rose - anything he gives us next year is gravy.

I'd use every pick on a PG or SG, unless there is some big talent that stands out.

For most of the season, we seemed to miss one PG and one wing the most, but I’m not sure we have the same needs this summer.

Rose is here, we brought Vildoza (whatever he eventually turns out to be), and IQ can play PG for a few minutes, too. I want to say that we really have the quantity. What we need is a starting PG, and we will hardly find that around the 20th pick. Vildoza is that “rookie PG” we were looking for.

There are a few players I like in that position, but aren’t we going to make too much of a fuss? Isn’t it perhaps better to take the wing and center though?

EwingsGlass wrote:

TPercy wrote:

martin wrote:Kia Jones, Usman Garuba, Bassey, Greg Brown, Day'Ron Sharpe?

Lots to pick from going 15-35

Only Bassey and sharpe make sense. The rest are way too raw.

Raw is what I like about Greg Brown. It’s the reason why he should be available to the Knicks. If you accept that you are likely filling slots 13-15 on the roster with draft pick rookies, it’s not the worst thing to pick pure physical upside and rely on the coaches to teach skills. Greg Brown could be special.

I get it. The only reason I’m hesistant on raw prospects is because of how poorly most turn out. I don’t want us to end up like Boston who wasted their picks treasure stash of picks on useless guys who won’t be in the league. They’re supposed to have a stacked bench but that isn’t the case. Similarly, guys like Knox and Frank were also high upside guys who flopped. It’s my preference that whoever we draft has at least 1 or two translatable skills.

xavier wrote:

franco12 wrote:we absolutely need a PG. Payton has proved how important the position is, and how badly positioned we are with folks that can run the team for us. We can't count on Rose - anything he gives us next year is gravy.

I'd use every pick on a PG or SG, unless there is some big talent that stands out.

For most of the season, we seemed to miss one PG and one wing the most, but I’m not sure we have the same needs this summer.

Rose is here, we brought Vildoza (whatever he eventually turns out to be), and IQ can play PG for a few minutes, too. I want to say that we really have the quantity. What we need is a starting PG, and we will hardly find that around the 20th pick. Vildoza is that “rookie PG” we were looking for.

There are a few players I like in that position, but aren’t we going to make too much of a fuss? Isn’t it perhaps better to take the wing and center though?

I like Jared Butler in the 19-21 range but it’s clear we don’t need to draft a PG because we already have a rookie PG joining the roster and quickley as a second year combo guard. We need a vet in free agency, whether a starter or a reserve to keep Rose’s minutes down, and that position is set. We really can’t keep more than 4 PGs on the active roster. As of now I don’t even expect Vildoza to be a rotation player. We need to sign a PG that can really defend and focus the draft on adding wing and big prospects. Duarte and Aaron Henry are 2 2-way wings I love. Henry is starting to gain momentum. He’s a great athlete who plays great defense and his shooting is coming around. Ultimately shooting is his swing skill. If he becomes a league average shooter than he’s a high quality role player at SG/SF.

xblvdels3 wrote:Wing and center priority to draft

If your looking at another cg he better turn out to be all star/borderline all star type player. If not we already have a cg who imo are similiar to the prospective players. (Iq luca)

Nobody ever talks about cam Thomas. He doesn’t try to play defense but can. He can flat out score anywhere on the court. When we need a bucket and the clock is running down give it to him? Can he be a beal?

Are we over looking cam Thomas????

Some have made this argument about “project” players but I’m gonna make it about centers. I am not a huge fan of drafting centers, particularly young centers. Feel like it takes a couple years for them to develop their “man-strength” and can be awhile for them to be able to hold their position against older and stronger players.

Now, Bassey is a junior and I can see why Briggs is projecting him. I like that kind of pick here, not because I expect it to be relevant in the immediate sense, but with some training and some strength, he could be a player.

I just think that any player chosen at 19, 21 or 33 is likely to be out of the 10 man rotation for a bit. With that as the case, I shift focus to players that more extreme physical prowess but need to develop skills.

Now that Makur Maker is entering the draft, I am curious where he projects. I imagine he pushes Bassey down the draft projections a bit.