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Yes! Knicks won all of their draft tiebreakers, get 19th and 21st picks
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5/26/2021  12:50 PM
fishmike wrote:if we draft 3 guys and 1 is as good as Quickly its a win

Three guys is a lot to add to a roster at one time, especially on on one thats competing. I assume Frank, Payton and Pelle are gone. But then you have to factor in possible free agent signings. I don't see the Knicks keeping all four picks.

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5/26/2021  2:31 PM
How long has it been since we could look at our team, like the roster well enough to wonder how new guys can improve things

for the last many years, we've generally wanted deep cleaning of the roster


that said, these slots (and 32) have had decent talent available

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5/26/2021  3:11 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
fishmike wrote:if we draft 3 guys and 1 is as good as Quickly its a win

Three guys is a lot to add to a roster at one time, especially on on one thats competing. I assume Frank, Payton and Pelle are gone. But then you have to factor in possible free agent signings. I don't see the Knicks keeping all four picks.

that late in the first round there is less pressure and Knicks could take a shot on a guy who will play a full G league season then treat him like a Sept call up if he plays well.

Dont assume those guys are gone... ELF yes but Frank and Pelle may be back for cheap if Thibs likes them. Frank's QO is like $8.5mm
Knowing Leon (assuming Frank like Thibs) we bring Frank back for that but for 3 years which would be a really solid move imo

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5/26/2021  3:31 PM
fishmike wrote:if we draft 3 guys and 1 is as good as Quickly its a win


Exactly how I’m playing It

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5/26/2021  3:50 PM
fishmike wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
fishmike wrote:if we draft 3 guys and 1 is as good as Quickly its a win

Three guys is a lot to add to a roster at one time, especially on on one thats competing. I assume Frank, Payton and Pelle are gone. But then you have to factor in possible free agent signings. I don't see the Knicks keeping all four picks.

that late in the first round there is less pressure and Knicks could take a shot on a guy who will play a full G league season then treat him like a Sept call up if he plays well.

Dont assume those guys are gone... ELF yes but Frank and Pelle may be back for cheap if Thibs likes them. Frank's QO is like $8.5mm
Knowing Leon (assuming Frank like Thibs) we bring Frank back for that but for 3 years which would be a really solid move imo

They could do the G-League thing, but he would still count as roster spot. Euro draft and stash would be ideal. Honestly, I see them moving some of these or trying to consolidate them and move up.

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5/26/2021  8:49 PM
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5/26/2021  9:23 PM
Chandler wrote:How long has it been since we could look at our team, like the roster well enough to wonder how new guys can improve things

for the last many years, we've generally wanted deep cleaning of the roster


that said, these slots (and 32) have had decent talent available

I expect Frank, Payton and Knox are not on the team next year. Those are three open roster spots.

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5/26/2021  10:39 PM
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martin wrote:I'd go with John Wallace, Walter McCarty and Dontae Pooh Bear Jones

Heh heh heh and ouch.

Freakin' Ilgauskas.

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5/26/2021  10:42 PM
franco12 wrote:
Chandler wrote:How long has it been since we could look at our team, like the roster well enough to wonder how new guys can improve things

for the last many years, we've generally wanted deep cleaning of the roster


that said, these slots (and 32) have had decent talent available

I expect Frank, Payton and Knox are not on the team next year. Those are three open roster spots.

We picked up the option on Knox. He's safe for the time being.

Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right. - The Tick
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5/27/2021  12:08 AM
xblvdels3 wrote:
fishmike wrote:if we draft 3 guys and 1 is as good as Quickly its a win


Exactly how I’m playing It

We actually have four picks - people aren’t mentioning Philly’s second rounder (58).

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5/27/2021  12:17 AM
BigDaddyG wrote:
franco12 wrote:
Chandler wrote:How long has it been since we could look at our team, like the roster well enough to wonder how new guys can improve things

for the last many years, we've generally wanted deep cleaning of the roster


that said, these slots (and 32) have had decent talent available

I expect Frank, Payton and Knox are not on the team next year. Those are three open roster spots.

We picked up the option on Knox. He's safe for the time being.

Good catch with Knox's option being picked up. The Knicks have a 1.7 option for Norvel Pelle as well. Rose worked some magic last year so if he swings The 21 pick for a future top 3 protected pick and a second, I am on board.

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5/27/2021  8:48 AM    LAST EDITED: 5/27/2021  8:50 AM
Knicks currently have 15 (main) players to consider for 21/22. This will likely be reduced to 13 through the elimination of Payton and Frank. Going to estimate they bring back 3 of their 5 current free agents. That would leave them at 11 returning players. I imagine they will also try to move Knox and Pelle - potentially opening up two more spots. Mitch's option will be picked up and Luca is an unknown. This would leave the team somewhere between 4-6 open roster spots for next year for rookies and signings (not including 2 way deals / G-League).


Under contract for next year:
Randal
RJ
Obi
IQ
Knox
Pelle

Team Options
Mitch
Luca

Targets to return (not under contract for 21/22)
Rose
Burks
Noel
Bullock
Gibson

Likely cut loose (not under contract for 21/22)
Payton
Frank (QO)

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5/27/2021  11:08 AM
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xblvdels3 wrote:
fishmike wrote:if we draft 3 guys and 1 is as good as Quickly its a win


Exactly how I’m playing It

We actually have four picks - people aren’t mentioning Philly’s second rounder (58).

That's the one Brock is most happy about and will Euro stash that so fast we all won't know what happened at 2am on draft night

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5/27/2021  11:11 AM
foosballnick wrote:Knicks currently have 15 (main) players to consider for 21/22. This will likely be reduced to 13 through the elimination of Payton and Frank. Going to estimate they bring back 3 of their 5 current free agents. That would leave them at 11 returning players. I imagine they will also try to move Knox and Pelle - potentially opening up two more spots. Mitch's option will be picked up and Luca is an unknown. This would leave the team somewhere between 4-6 open roster spots for next year for rookies and signings (not including 2 way deals / G-League).


Under contract for next year:
Randal
RJ
Obi
IQ
Knox
Pelle

Team Options
Mitch
Luca

Targets to return (not under contract for 21/22)
Rose
Burks
Noel
Bullock
Gibson

Likely cut loose (not under contract for 21/22)
Payton
Frank (QO)

Good list. I do think Pelle is more under the Team Options but that's just nit picking

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5/27/2021  11:23 AM
martin wrote:
foosballnick wrote:Knicks currently have 15 (main) players to consider for 21/22. This will likely be reduced to 13 through the elimination of Payton and Frank. Going to estimate they bring back 3 of their 5 current free agents. That would leave them at 11 returning players. I imagine they will also try to move Knox and Pelle - potentially opening up two more spots. Mitch's option will be picked up and Luca is an unknown. This would leave the team somewhere between 4-6 open roster spots for next year for rookies and signings (not including 2 way deals / G-League).


Under contract for next year:
Randal
RJ
Obi
IQ
Knox
Pelle

Team Options
Mitch
Luca

Targets to return (not under contract for 21/22)
Rose
Burks
Noel
Bullock
Gibson

Likely cut loose (not under contract for 21/22)
Payton
Frank (QO)

Good list. I do think Pelle is more under the Team Options but that's just nit picking

Also, forget to list Pinson as a target to return. That is unexcusable!

Always... always remember: Less is less. More is more. More is better and twice as much is good too. Not enough is bad, and too much is never enough except when it's just about right. - The Tick
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5/27/2021  11:24 AM
BigDaddyG wrote:
martin wrote:
foosballnick wrote:Knicks currently have 15 (main) players to consider for 21/22. This will likely be reduced to 13 through the elimination of Payton and Frank. Going to estimate they bring back 3 of their 5 current free agents. That would leave them at 11 returning players. I imagine they will also try to move Knox and Pelle - potentially opening up two more spots. Mitch's option will be picked up and Luca is an unknown. This would leave the team somewhere between 4-6 open roster spots for next year for rookies and signings (not including 2 way deals / G-League).


Under contract for next year:
Randal
RJ
Obi
IQ
Knox
Pelle

Team Options
Mitch
Luca

Targets to return (not under contract for 21/22)
Rose
Burks
Noel
Bullock
Gibson

Likely cut loose (not under contract for 21/22)
Payton
Frank (QO)

Good list. I do think Pelle is more under the Team Options but that's just nit picking

Also, forget to list Pinson as a target to return. That is unexcusable!

Under contract for life category was just assumed man

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5/27/2021  1:17 PM
for sooooo long we wanted draft assets. Now we have them but kind of like our guys too....

Makes me wonder what the hell OKC is going to do with their trove

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5/27/2021  2:32 PM
Chandler wrote:for sooooo long we wanted draft assets. Now we have them but kind of like our guys too....

Makes me wonder what the hell OKC is going to do with their trove

Prob trade the lesser ones for Westbrook

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5/27/2021  5:41 PM
How we manipulated the draft last year gives me high hopes....that was a sign things were gonna be different.
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5/27/2021  6:26 PM
martin wrote:
KnickDanger wrote:
xblvdels3 wrote:
fishmike wrote:if we draft 3 guys and 1 is as good as Quickly its a win


Exactly how I’m playing It

We actually have four picks - people aren’t mentioning Philly’s second rounder (58).

That's the one Brock is most happy about and will Euro stash that so fast we all won't know what happened at 2am on draft night


Lol yea

Yes! Knicks won all of their draft tiebreakers, get 19th and 21st picks

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