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OT:Zach Lowe's season end award: All-NBA, All-Defense, and All-Rookie
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Uptown
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5/18/2021  6:30 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/18/2021  6:31 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
Uptown wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
Uptown wrote:How is Donavan Mitchell not any of the All NBA Teams? Best player on the best team? Mitchell should replace Butler, IMO. Feel like Butler is getting some carry-over love from the bubble performances.

Naw...check out Butler's stats. He's had a better season, at least statistically, than Mitchell this year.

The numbers are close enough that if you factor in the fact that Utah has the best record in the league, something nobody predicted, and the Heat have underachieved, record-wise, Mitchell, in my opinion should edge out Butler.

If you go on Utah fan boards there are plenty of people who will say Gobert was the most valuable player on that team this year. There are also people who say the Conley's improvement over last season also played a big role. Miami has a .620 winning percentage when Jimmy is in the lineup, which is one pace for 50 wins in a normal season. They were 6-11 without him. Utah is 13-6 without Mitchell. (I got these number from Stat Muse.) You could make the case that Jimmy's performance on the Heat moved the needle for his team more than Mitchell did for his.

Gorbert and Conely have been huge for the Jazz, which are 2 big reasons why they have the best record in the league. It's a team game, and I'm not saying Spida is carrying the team by himself or that he should be the league MVP; I just think the best player on the best team who is putting the numbers that he is, should be All NBA.

As far as the numbers are concerned, you mention that the Jazz are 13-6 without Mitchell. But they are 39-14 with him which is damn good. Speaking of 13-6, 9 of those 13 wins are vs sub-500 teams. Houston 2xs, Sac-town 2xs, OKC 2xs, etc....

Butler is having a good year, no doubt. The Heat loss to some really good teams while he was out; nets 2xs, Clippers, Nuggs, Philly 2xs, Mil, Portland, Atlanta...etc.

Like I said, its close but if I had a vote, Spida would get mine....

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BigDaddyG
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5/18/2021  6:58 PM
Uptown wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
Uptown wrote:
BigDaddyG wrote:
Uptown wrote:How is Donavan Mitchell not any of the All NBA Teams? Best player on the best team? Mitchell should replace Butler, IMO. Feel like Butler is getting some carry-over love from the bubble performances.

Naw...check out Butler's stats. He's had a better season, at least statistically, than Mitchell this year.

The numbers are close enough that if you factor in the fact that Utah has the best record in the league, something nobody predicted, and the Heat have underachieved, record-wise, Mitchell, in my opinion should edge out Butler.

If you go on Utah fan boards there are plenty of people who will say Gobert was the most valuable player on that team this year. There are also people who say the Conley's improvement over last season also played a big role. Miami has a .620 winning percentage when Jimmy is in the lineup, which is one pace for 50 wins in a normal season. They were 6-11 without him. Utah is 13-6 without Mitchell. (I got these number from Stat Muse.) You could make the case that Jimmy's performance on the Heat moved the needle for his team more than Mitchell did for his.

Gorbert and Conely have been huge for the Jazz, which are 2 big reasons why they have the best record in the league. It's a team game, and I'm not saying Spida is carrying the team by himself or that he should be the league MVP; I just think the best player on the best team who is putting the numbers that he is, should be All NBA.

As far as the numbers are concerned, you mention that the Jazz are 13-6 without Mitchell. But they are 39-14 with him which is damn good. Speaking of 13-6, 9 of those 13 wins are vs sub-500 teams. Houston 2xs, Sac-town 2xs, OKC 2xs, etc....

Butler is having a good year, no doubt. The Heat loss to some really good teams while he was out; nets 2xs, Clippers, Nuggs, Philly 2xs, Mil, Portland, Atlanta...etc.

Like I said, its close but if I had a vote, Spida would get mine....


I don't think Jimmy is the big issue. The elephant in the room wears gold and plays out west.
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TPercy
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5/18/2021  8:04 PM
Marcus Smart dosent belong on any nba all defense team.
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TPercy
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5/18/2021  8:05 PM
That all rookie second team is soo underwhelming
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TPercy
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5/18/2021  8:07 PM
How the hell does Lebron miss half the season and get all 2nd team? Soo ridiculous.
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BigDaddyG
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5/18/2021  8:15 PM
TPercy wrote:Marcus Smart dosent belong on any nba all defense team.

Marcus Smart is living off rep. It happens with these dumb awards.

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OT:Zach Lowe's season end award: All-NBA, All-Defense, and All-Rookie

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