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knicks1248
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5/2/2021  1:19 PM
TPercy wrote:Berman with the bull****

Even though I like Berman, I would have to agree with you

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5/2/2021  1:41 PM
We need to stop the star chasing, this is the typical NY article that pressures bad choices just to get a star name... we already have a star in randle and a future star in Barrett. Number one goal is keeping this team intact with the players we have. Noel,bullock,rose,burks and draft well . The chemistry of this team is fantastic the best I’ve seen since the glory years of the 90’s .

We let Payton walk obviously . But this team is special.

Mitch, Noel and Gibson were set!
Randle, Toppin, first pick were set
Bullock, burks,knox
Barrett, burks, quick
Rose, quick, first round pick

Sure if there’s a opportunity to upgrade without messing with chemistry you do it. We have a young core with randle,Barrett,quick and Mitch

Great core vets that help the youth grow in rose, bullock, burks, Noel and Gibson.

Dame is a super talent but lacks defensive interest. The only way I go after dame is when the trailblazers are ready to rebuild. Right now he would cost the farm plus one of our core players. NOT worth the risk .


If we strike gold in the draft like we did with quick plus retain our vets . We don’t need to waste big money on flawed stars.

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5/2/2021  2:05 PM
fitzfarm wrote:We need to stop the star chasing, this is the typical NY article that pressures bad choices just to get a star name... we already have a star in randle and a future star in Barrett. Number one goal is keeping this team intact with the players we have. Noel,bullock,rose,burks and draft well . The chemistry of this team is fantastic the best I’ve seen since the glory years of the 90’s .

We let Payton walk obviously . But this team is special.

Mitch, Noel and Gibson were set!
Randle, Toppin, first pick were set
Bullock, burks,knox
Barrett, burks, quick
Rose, quick, first round pick

Sure if there’s a opportunity to upgrade without messing with chemistry you do it. We have a young core with randle,Barrett,quick and Mitch

Great core vets that help the youth grow in rose, bullock, burks, Noel and Gibson.

Dame is a super talent but lacks defensive interest. The only way I go after dame is when the trailblazers are ready to rebuild. Right now he would cost the farm plus one of our core players. NOT worth the risk .


If we strike gold in the draft like we did with quick plus retain our vets . We don’t need to waste big money on flawed stars.

Do you really think your above roster has enough talent to get deep into the playoffs? I don't.

Feel like there is a balance in giving up your whole roster and future for a star phuck versus improving the roster by using cap space smartly while also trading for a player.

It shouldn't be an either/or

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5/2/2021  2:41 PM
martin wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:We need to stop the star chasing, this is the typical NY article that pressures bad choices just to get a star name... we already have a star in randle and a future star in Barrett. Number one goal is keeping this team intact with the players we have. Noel,bullock,rose,burks and draft well . The chemistry of this team is fantastic the best I’ve seen since the glory years of the 90’s .

We let Payton walk obviously . But this team is special.

Mitch, Noel and Gibson were set!
Randle, Toppin, first pick were set
Bullock, burks,knox
Barrett, burks, quick
Rose, quick, first round pick

Sure if there’s a opportunity to upgrade without messing with chemistry you do it. We have a young core with randle,Barrett,quick and Mitch

Great core vets that help the youth grow in rose, bullock, burks, Noel and Gibson.

Dame is a super talent but lacks defensive interest. The only way I go after dame is when the trailblazers are ready to rebuild. Right now he would cost the farm plus one of our core players. NOT worth the risk .


If we strike gold in the draft like we did with quick plus retain our vets . We don’t need to waste big money on flawed stars.

Do you really think your above roster has enough talent to get deep into the playoffs? I don't.

Feel like there is a balance in giving up your whole roster and future for a star phuck versus improving the roster by using cap space smartly while also trading for a player.

It shouldn't be an either/or

We need find the player on the verge of breaking out that will come fairly cheap. Brandon Ingram before the Davis trade could of been had. Rande was signed for 12 million by the Pelicans. Who is the guard version of that? The guy we get for 15 million a year and turns into an All-Star. Thats why im willing to roll the dice on Lonzo

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5/2/2021  3:19 PM
martin wrote:
fitzfarm wrote:We need to stop the star chasing, this is the typical NY article that pressures bad choices just to get a star name... we already have a star in randle and a future star in Barrett. Number one goal is keeping this team intact with the players we have. Noel,bullock,rose,burks and draft well . The chemistry of this team is fantastic the best I;ve seen since the glory years of the 90;s .

We let Payton walk obviously . But this team is special.

Mitch, Noel and Gibson were set!
Randle, Toppin, first pick were set
Bullock, burks,knox
Barrett, burks, quick
Rose, quick, first round pick

Sure if there;s a opportunity to upgrade without messing with chemistry you do it. We have a young core with randle,Barrett,quick and Mitch

Great core vets that help the youth grow in rose, bullock, burks, Noel and Gibson.

Dame is a super talent but lacks defensive interest. The only way I go after dame is when the trailblazers are ready to rebuild. Right now he would cost the farm plus one of our core players. NOT worth the risk .


If we strike gold in the draft like we did with quick plus retain our vets . We dont need to waste big money on flawed stars.

Do you really think your above roster has enough talent to get deep into the playoffs? I don't.

Feel like there is a balance in giving up your whole roster and future for a star phuck versus improving the roster by using cap space smartly while also trading for a player.

It shouldn't be an either/or

For the first time since like Ernie Grunfeld i think i trust the FO to strike that balance. I'm hoping that trust isn't premature and they didn't just get lucky, but for once in twenty years I'm optimistic.

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5/2/2021  4:42 PM
Lillard's age and cost of bringing to NY would probably be too costly and risky. Id like to see how Luca does (if we in fact sign him) Guessing Luca's team knows that he could be a game changer for the Knicks playoff hopes. Using it as leverage. Will be interesting to hear what the hold up was. Or maybe it was announced too early in the talks. We'll see.

Would be great to have Dame in NY for a few good years. But fortunately the team is situated where they dont have to go for a big Hail Mary like that to be competitive. Getting to the playoffs will get FAs interested. Getting past the first round will do even more.

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5/2/2021  5:01 PM
Does it make us better than the Nets?

Most likely not. If I’m the GM I’m asking for all the picks this year, Dallas pick, quickly,
Toppin, Knox, Mitch and a pick swap, which I think is too much. They would likely trade CJ at that point snd fully rebuild.

Knicks need to get lucky with a Grant type player, thought they missed a big opportunity to get bogey at a fair price this offseason.

The real problem was missing on Halliburton.

I think they stand pat and hope Knox fills the Burks role, Obi and quick take a leap, Mitch returns to form and we get another impact player in the draft. Those melo type trades rarely work out.

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5/2/2021  9:57 PM
GustavBahler wrote:Lillard's age and cost of bringing to NY would probably be too costly and risky. Id like to see how Luca does (if we in fact sign him) Guessing Luca's team knows that he could be a game changer for the Knicks playoff hopes. Using it as leverage. Will be interesting to hear what the hold up was. Or maybe it was announced too early in the talks. We'll see.

Would be great to have Dame in NY for a few good years. But fortunately the team is situated where they dont have to go for a big Hail Mary like that to be competitive. Getting to the playoffs will get FAs interested. Getting past the first round will do even more.

Can you sign someone know and have them qualify for playoffs? I thought not?

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5/2/2021  10:37 PM    LAST EDITED: 5/2/2021  10:42 PM
Panos wrote:
GustavBahler wrote:Lillard's age and cost of bringing to NY would probably be too costly and risky. Id like to see how Luca does (if we in fact sign him) Guessing Luca's team knows that he could be a game changer for the Knicks playoff hopes. Using it as leverage. Will be interesting to hear what the hold up was. Or maybe it was announced too early in the talks. We'll see.

Would be great to have Dame in NY for a few good years. But fortunately the team is situated where they dont have to go for a big Hail Mary like that to be competitive. Getting to the playoffs will get FAs interested. Getting past the first round will do even more.

Can you sign someone know and have them qualify for playoffs? I thought not?

We're trying to sign Luca, it might be different for current NBA players. Never could follow all the trade rules.

Edit: If they arent on a roster, I guess they wouldnt be current NBA players.

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5/3/2021  2:27 AM
Not happening
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5/3/2021  5:07 AM
NBA teams can sign free agents until May 16. However, players who have already played for the another NBA team this season had to be waved by April 9 by old team at the latest to be eligible to play for the new team this season.

As for Vildoza, he hasn’t played for the NBA team this (or any) season so we can sign him until May 16. I don’t know where the negotiations about bringing him in are stuck, if they are stuck at all, but I see that $ 2 million fee for Baskonia is mentioned. The Knicks are not allowed to pay this in full because of the salary cap rules, but this is always handled in a way that the player pays the rest from his salary. For that very reason, Luca will certainly not play for the minimum, but for something a little more.

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5/3/2021  11:00 AM
xavier wrote:NBA teams can sign free agents until May 16. However, players who have already played for the another NBA team this season had to be waved by April 9 by old team at the latest to be eligible to play for the new team this season.

As for Vildoza, he hasn’t played for the NBA team this (or any) season so we can sign him until May 16. I don’t know where the negotiations about bringing him in are stuck, if they are stuck at all, but I see that $ 2 million fee for Baskonia is mentioned. The Knicks are not allowed to pay this in full because of the salary cap rules, but this is always handled in a way that the player pays the rest from his salary. For that very reason, Luca will certainly not play for the minimum, but for something a little more.

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5/3/2021  11:05 AM
xavier wrote:NBA teams can sign free agents until May 16. However, players who have already played for the another NBA team this season had to be waved by April 9 by old team at the latest to be eligible to play for the new team this season.

As for Vildoza, he hasn’t played for the NBA team this (or any) season so we can sign him until May 16. I don’t know where the negotiations about bringing him in are stuck, if they are stuck at all, but I see that $ 2 million fee for Baskonia is mentioned. The Knicks are not allowed to pay this in full because of the salary cap rules, but this is always handled in a way that the player pays the rest from his salary. For that very reason, Luca will certainly not play for the minimum, but for something a little more.

So I think the buyout limit for a team is $750K, so the difference between that and the $2M will have to be paid by the players AND I think the difference ($2M - 750K) is prorated and added on to the top of the player's salary over the years of his contract insofar as what the cap hit will be.

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5/3/2021  11:33 AM
martin wrote:So I think the buyout limit for a team is $750K, so the difference between that and the $2M will have to be paid by the players AND I think the difference ($2M - 750K) is prorated and added on to the top of the player's salary over the years of his contract insofar as what the cap hit will be.

Yes, that's basically it.

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