xblvdels3 wrote:Mitch is definitely worth a number 1.... he would be 10-30th pick in the last 2 years If scouts knew what he could provide. Only 23 and the league knows what he can and cannot do so far.

Knicks have proven they can win with Noel, Gibson, and Pelle as the center options. Noel has flourished to a DPOY candidate in the right circumstances. He's still very young as well. I say draft a center with one of the first rounders (Isaiah Jackson being the top option as a Kentucky guy that is a great athlete/defender) and move Robinson for a first rounder. Noel, Gibson, Jackson, and Pelle would be more than enough at center and be cheap too.

Knixkik wrote:

xblvdels3 wrote:Mitch is definitely worth a number 1.... he would be 10-30th pick in the last 2 years If scouts knew what he could provide. Only 23 and the league knows what he can and cannot do so far.

Knicks have proven they can win with Noel, Gibson, and Pelle as the center options. Noel has flourished to a DPOY candidate in the right circumstances. He's still very young as well. I say draft a center with one of the first rounders (Isaiah Jackson being the top option as a Kentucky guy that is a great athlete/defender) and move Robinson for a first rounder. Noel, Gibson, Jackson, and Pelle would be more than enough at center and be cheap too.

Yea seeing how we have not missed a beat I’m
Open to trading him. But if there is not a big market for him I’m open keeping him.

Knixkik wrote:

xblvdels3 wrote:Mitch is definitely worth a number 1.... he would be 10-30th pick in the last 2 years If scouts knew what he could provide. Only 23 and the league knows what he can and cannot do so far.

Knicks have proven they can win with Noel, Gibson, and Pelle as the center options. Noel has flourished to a DPOY candidate in the right circumstances. He's still very young as well. I say draft a center with one of the first rounders (Isaiah Jackson being the top option as a Kentucky guy that is a great athlete/defender) and move Robinson for a first rounder. Noel, Gibson, Jackson, and Pelle would be more than enough at center and be cheap too.

I think we might be creating the illusion of value by moving parts around.

Robinson will be making less in 2021-22 than the first rounder you suggest the knicks us to replace Robinson. You might has well use the first rounder to trade for a first rounder in a subsequent year.

If Noel truly has the value you're assigning to him, then him being much cheaper this offseason compared to what Robinson will be theoretically worth might not be something you can count on.

Robinson for $1.8m as a starter, back-up OR depth is a no-brainer in any of those 3 scenarios.

xblvdels3 wrote:1. Draft guys to step in for bullock burks rose in 2 years.

2. Sign a point guard 20m or less. The least the better 😅

3. Consider trading Mitch depending on how much he asks for this off-season next year in his option year.

4. As far as a backup 4 offensively Toppin will be fine going forward.

A lot will come down to how much Noel burks and bullock want and would they consider a one year deal just for the opportunity to stay in a familiar team environment and try to win a championship toghethor.

If not these guys have to be replaced next year of you want a chance to sign another all star in 2023

A big keyto our future is really getting a solid pg (not exactly a star but solid) for 20m or less. The cheaper we can get a guy the more money t sign and extend guys

I can see that a good part of you are thrilled with the idea of trading Mitch for a certain FRP, but the problem is that you have to choose someone with that pick. Yes, the pick in the 10-20 range looks great from the perspective that we chose IQ with 25th and Mitch with 36th pick, but we also chose Frank and Obi with 8th and Knox with 9th pick. How do you feel about the trade where we trade Mitch and actually trade him for one of these three? Not great, is it?

Jmpasq wrote:

xblvdels3 wrote:1. Draft guys to step in for bullock burks rose in 2 years.

2. Sign a point guard 20m or less. The least the better 😅

3. Consider trading Mitch depending on how much he asks for this off-season next year in his option year.

4. As far as a backup 4 offensively Toppin will be fine going forward.

A lot will come down to how much Noel burks and bullock want and would they consider a one year deal just for the opportunity to stay in a familiar team environment and try to win a championship toghethor.

If not these guys have to be replaced next year of you want a chance to sign another all star in 2023

A big keyto our future is really getting a solid pg (not exactly a star but solid) for 20m or less. The cheaper we can get a guy the more money t sign and extend guys

I think we will draft a center and a wing

I’ve thought of that also.

NardDogNation wrote:This might be a bit out of left field but....how much more would you need around Julius Randle, Mitchell Robinson and four first round picks (both Dallas first round picks) to entice the Pelicans into letting Zion go? If not much more, I'd take back the contracts of Eric Bledsoe and Steven Adams.

We all know it's a matter of time before Zion leaves NOP. Why delay the inevitable? A Zion-Barrett combo would be devastating in the East.

BRIGGS wrote:Toppin and Quickley going nowhere

Quick no. Obi?
https://sports.yahoo.com/rumor-knicks-trade-obi-toppin-174116862.html

A strong NO on Mitch

I want to see what a contract extension would look like for Mitch. Can we offer one this summer, when we have a little more leverage off his injuries this year? I'm inclined to think he'd pass, choosing to bet on himself, but who knows what his agent might advise (and even who that may be come the offseason...)

I think we're warming up maybe a little too much at the idea of trading him, simply because out of sight, out of mind. Noel has been phenomenal. My ideal scenario is keeping both. Getting to see Mitch play again I think will be a nice refresher - I think it was the game he broke his hand, he already had 13 or 14 rebounds in the first half?! Add in some lobs from Rose, Randle, RJ...he's still a difference maker IMO. Not untradeable, but I need more than a mid to late 1st.