martin wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

martin wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:

Knixkik wrote:Gibson for the minimum which is easy enough. As far as Rose, Bullock, Burks, and Noel it's tough. The draft will dictate a lot too. But we need to keep as many of them as possible. 1 year overpays, or multi-year underpays are obviously most ideal. What those numbers are, I don't have a clue. The core is Randle, Barrett, and Quickley in my opinion, but the guys you mentioned are so critical. It would be a shame to let some of them go and lose what makes this team what it is.

After watching him— are u sure some team won’t give Gibson a 1-2 year 5-6 mm per?

It's weird, Gibson is playing at the same level as he had been doing last year and got no offers. Maybe he wanted to stick with NY?

The center position is strange in the league. It's similar to RB in football. Gibson is the same player, yet he's not a classic rim protector or floor spacer. Same with Kyle O'Quinn. He plays tough on both ends of the floor, but he doesn't have a job right now.

Taj PnR defense and help defense is excellent. KOQ still figuring out what PnR stands for defensively.

Haha

Uptown wrote:If the goal is to be one of the top 3-4 teams in the east, ideally, we need push Bullock and or Burks down a peg on the depth chart and add a more talented 3. Wouldn't mind signing one but not both. Burks will be very expensive this summer....

We have a lot of money next year to offer these guys 1 year deal.

We have about 20m to try t find a pg this summer

Then 30m + to sign returning players for 1 year if they will accept the offer

I’d say draft kispert and Duarte as students of burks and bullock.

Uptown wrote:

xblvdels3 wrote:

Uptown wrote:If the goal is to be one of the top 3-4 teams in the east, ideally, we need push Bullock and or Burks down a peg on the depth chart and add a more talented 3. Wouldn't mind signing one but not both. Burks will be very expensive this summer....

We have a lot of money next year to offer these guys 1 year deal.

We have about 20m to try t find a pg this summer

Then 30m + to sign returning players for 1 year if they will accept the offer

I’d say draft kispert and Duarte as students of burks and bullock.

This is the second 1 year deal Bullock as signed...At some point, I have to believe he will want a multi year deal.

😅😅 true

Uptown wrote:

xblvdels3 wrote:

Uptown wrote:If the goal is to be one of the top 3-4 teams in the east, ideally, we need push Bullock and or Burks down a peg on the depth chart and add a more talented 3. Wouldn't mind signing one but not both. Burks will be very expensive this summer....

We have a lot of money next year to offer these guys 1 year deal.

We have about 20m to try t find a pg this summer

Then 30m + to sign returning players for 1 year if they will accept the offer

I’d say draft kispert and Duarte as students of burks and bullock.

This is the second 1 year deal Bullock has signed...At some point, I have to believe he will want a multi year deal.

He signed a 2 year deal. Knicks picked up his option.

xblvdels3 wrote:

Uptown wrote:If the goal is to be one of the top 3-4 teams in the east, ideally, we need push Bullock and or Burks down a peg on the depth chart and add a more talented 3. Wouldn't mind signing one but not both. Burks will be very expensive this summer....

We have a lot of money next year to offer these guys 1 year deal.

We have about 20m to try t find a pg this summer

Then 30m + to sign returning players for 1 year if they will accept the offer

I’d say draft kispert and Duarte as students of burks and bullock.

I would like to get ahold of one of them for sure. But instead of both, I really think the Knicks should grab a center with the other first round pick. Mitch and Noel are completely up in the air. Isaiah Jackson from Kentucky is very similar to Noel only he has more upside on offense. He was the only bigtime kentucky prospect to have a good year. Payne recruited him and i'm sure Coach Cal speaks highly of him. I would imagine he is on their radar. Knicks probably won't draft a PG in the first round simply because they already have Quickley as a young PG prospect and they will want a vet. I think they go wing and big man in the first round.

smackeddog wrote:I wouldn’t be surprised if CP3 opts out and comes here for a 2 year contract- might make re-signing these guys more difficult.

I think Rose can be re-signed relatively cheap, same with Taj. Even Burks shouldn’t be too costly.

What would be the thought process in declining a $44M contract on one of the best teams in the league at age 36?

And then what would be the incentive the Knicks would need to provide to make this happen?

technomaster wrote:I think this year's Bullock deal was a bit of a handshake from last year's surgery debacle. He is SOOOO much better this season than last. (virtual 2-year deal)

Noel/Burks/Bullock are extremely valuable to us. A big mutual benefit is that they KNOW they're valued and will get minutes. I think extensions in the $5-9m/yr range would be fair market value for them.

These guys made $4.2m-$6m this year.

What did their comps make?
Wayne Ellington ($2.5m), Dotson ($4m/2yr), Justin Holiday ($18m/3yr), Jae Crowder ($30m/3yr), Marcus Morris ($64m/4yr)
Tristan Thompson ($18/2yr), Whiteside ($2.3m), Kanter ($5m), Dwight Howard ($2.56m), Robin Lopez ($7.3m), WCS ($8.2/2yr)

On the other hand, Burks is a little different. He's a bit of a multi-faceted player. Should he be compared more to guys like the Joes:
Joe Ingles (in the middle of a 4year, $52m deal); Joe Harris (just signed a $75m!/4yr)
Holy crap, how did Joe Harris get the Nets to agree to $18m per season? His agent is a hero!

Burks is nowhere near the Harris/Ingles territory.

IMHO he tops out at MLE

Knixkik wrote:

xblvdels3 wrote:

Uptown wrote:If the goal is to be one of the top 3-4 teams in the east, ideally, we need push Bullock and or Burks down a peg on the depth chart and add a more talented 3. Wouldn't mind signing one but not both. Burks will be very expensive this summer....

We have a lot of money next year to offer these guys 1 year deal.

We have about 20m to try t find a pg this summer

Then 30m + to sign returning players for 1 year if they will accept the offer

I’d say draft kispert and Duarte as students of burks and bullock.

I would like to get ahold of one of them for sure. But instead of both, I really think the Knicks should grab a center with the other first round pick. Mitch and Noel are completely up in the air. Isaiah Jackson from Kentucky is very similar to Noel only he has more upside on offense. He was the only bigtime kentucky prospect to have a good year. Payne recruited him and i'm sure Coach Cal speaks highly of him. I would imagine he is on their radar. Knicks probably won't draft a PG in the first round simply because they already have Quickley as a young PG prospect and they will want a vet. I think they go wing and big man in the first round.

What do you think of Charles bassey?

Currently have him down as our third pick

On the nba Washington Seems more like a pf.

HoustonSprewell84 wrote:You can’t keep Burks and Bullocks.
You can probably replace their production with one of our 1st round picks.
I’m hoping Kispert falls to us. He would be a perfect for next to randle and Barrett

Burks has been hustling well on offense/defense in any lineup in the games rotation to earn him a keeper contract from Leon in the offseason.

Gibson & Rose are cheap veteran keepers that will play 50 games a season.

This is the best season I ever seen Noel perform .. ???

xblvdels3 wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

xblvdels3 wrote:

Uptown wrote:If the goal is to be one of the top 3-4 teams in the east, ideally, we need push Bullock and or Burks down a peg on the depth chart and add a more talented 3. Wouldn't mind signing one but not both. Burks will be very expensive this summer....

We have a lot of money next year to offer these guys 1 year deal.

We have about 20m to try t find a pg this summer

Then 30m + to sign returning players for 1 year if they will accept the offer

I’d say draft kispert and Duarte as students of burks and bullock.

I would like to get ahold of one of them for sure. But instead of both, I really think the Knicks should grab a center with the other first round pick. Mitch and Noel are completely up in the air. Isaiah Jackson from Kentucky is very similar to Noel only he has more upside on offense. He was the only bigtime kentucky prospect to have a good year. Payne recruited him and i'm sure Coach Cal speaks highly of him. I would imagine he is on their radar. Knicks probably won't draft a PG in the first round simply because they already have Quickley as a young PG prospect and they will want a vet. I think they go wing and big man in the first round.

What do you think of Charles bassey?

Currently have him down as our third pick

On the nba Washington Seems more like a pf.

Yes I like him too. Similar to Jackson, with less overall potential. But he could be a real solid backup and could be the early second round pick if we went that route.