knicks1248 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Randle isnt being leaned on in the 4th quarter as much. Hope it stays that way. The best chance of getting past the first round (and beyond) is Randle having something left in the tank, at the end of the season.

Hope Burks and Mitch are back in the rotation soon. If we're at full strength by the playoffs. Who knows how far we can go? We have a great mix of experience, and youth. Thibs keeping a tight playoff rotation in the past (what I recall) wore down some players to the point of needing medical attention. Cut their run short.

Its somewhat comforting to know that Frank, and Knox, are still getting minutes here, and there. They may not have a substantial role in the playoffs. At least they're getting an opportunity for more minutes. And taking some of the load of their teammates.

I hope Frank, Knox, get PT in the playoffs. If for no other reason than throwing fresh bodies at the other team. Believe that will get us further than a tight rotation.

5th seed would be awesome because I dont believe we've been seeded that high this century. I will be pysched If we avoid the play-in. Any seed that does it.

Fewer games to play could be crucial to the team's success. The less games Rose has to play, to make the playoffs the better. We will need his experience.

We were actually the 2 seed the last time we made the playoffs in 2013.

This is not the time to cruise, we need to keep playing hard and smart. My prediction was 37 to 41 wins, and it seems like thats what were on pace for..4th seed with home court in the 1st round

Wow, dont remember that team being seeded that high.

Suggesting that I want the team to "cruise" for the rest of the season is not even close to what I actually wrote. Not making Randle play every minute of the 4th quarter isnt "cruising". Neither is finding a few minutes here and there, for Knox and Frank. Your way isnt any smarter or harder. Its more taxing. Thats foolish.

Are you suggesting they should open up a 12 man rotation to give Knox and frank a few minutes? Frank had 3 fouls in 4 minutes last game, making it so easy for the coach to yank him

The reason we are where we are is because of the TIGHT ROTATION, that's something No coach we had has done since MDA and Woodson (the last time we made the PO).

The team hasn't been practicing much, so thats a huge help in terms of resting.

If guys don't earned minutes, then where's the accountability..

You Rest guys when your spot is solidify.

We had a tight rotation with Woodson when players like Camby/Rasheed/KT couldnt finish the season because they were spent. Most retiring after the season ended.

D'Antoni ran Amar'e until the wheels came off. Started breaking down after half a season. Thats what happens when the rotation is too tight.

I am suggesting that Thibs not repeat the same mistakes that got him bounced from his last 2 teams. Not enough trust in his bench, being one of them. Relying too much on his starters. Certain players. Hoping Thibs has learned what hasnt worked in the past. Looks that way.

You have even less success playing more than 10 guys, just asked Rambis, Fisher, Fizdale, JH, and Miller.

I agree that playing Randle heavy minutes is a risk, but Knox and OBI certainly haven't earn extra minutes, and in order for randle to rest you need one of them to step up.

C'mon man..

GustavBahler wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:Randle isnt being leaned on in the 4th quarter as much. Hope it stays that way. The best chance of getting past the first round (and beyond) is Randle having something left in the tank, at the end of the season.

Hope Burks and Mitch are back in the rotation soon. If we're at full strength by the playoffs. Who knows how far we can go? We have a great mix of experience, and youth. Thibs keeping a tight playoff rotation in the past (what I recall) wore down some players to the point of needing medical attention. Cut their run short.

Its somewhat comforting to know that Frank, and Knox, are still getting minutes here, and there. They may not have a substantial role in the playoffs. At least they're getting an opportunity for more minutes. And taking some of the load of their teammates.

I hope Frank, Knox, get PT in the playoffs. If for no other reason than throwing fresh bodies at the other team. Believe that will get us further than a tight rotation.

5th seed would be awesome because I dont believe we've been seeded that high this century. I will be pysched If we avoid the play-in. Any seed that does it.

Fewer games to play could be crucial to the team's success. The less games Rose has to play, to make the playoffs the better. We will need his experience.

We were actually the 2 seed the last time we made the playoffs in 2013.

This is not the time to cruise, we need to keep playing hard and smart. My prediction was 37 to 41 wins, and it seems like thats what were on pace for..4th seed with home court in the 1st round

Wow, dont remember that team being seeded that high.

Suggesting that I want the team to "cruise" for the rest of the season is not even close to what I actually wrote. Not making Randle play every minute of the 4th quarter isnt "cruising". Neither is finding a few minutes here and there, for Knox and Frank. Your way isnt any smarter or harder. Its more taxing. Thats foolish.

Are you suggesting they should open up a 12 man rotation to give Knox and frank a few minutes? Frank had 3 fouls in 4 minutes last game, making it so easy for the coach to yank him

The reason we are where we are is because of the TIGHT ROTATION, that's something No coach we had has done since MDA and Woodson (the last time we made the PO).

The team hasn't been practicing much, so thats a huge help in terms of resting.

If guys don't earned minutes, then where's the accountability..

You Rest guys when your spot is solidify.

We had a tight rotation with Woodson when players like Camby/Rasheed/KT couldnt finish the season because they were spent. Most retiring after the season ended.

D'Antoni ran Amar'e until the wheels came off. Started breaking down after half a season. Thats what happens when the rotation is too tight.

I am suggesting that Thibs not repeat the same mistakes that got him bounced from his last 2 teams. Not enough trust in his bench, being one of them. Relying too much on his starters. Certain players. Hoping Thibs has learned what hasnt worked in the past. Looks that way.

The 2013 roster was waaaayyyy older. We had the oldest team in the league by far with like a third of the roster retiring (Kidd, Thomas, Camby, Sheed)

Our current roster is like the 3rd or 4th youngest in the league. All Thibs has to do is give guys like Obi, Knox, Frank more playing time

Panos wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Nalod wrote:Why argue with the dude 1248?
Key phrase by Gustove was “I hope”. Did not say “I took Thibs should”.....
And why would you not hope Thibs can blend in more players AND SUCCEED? Cuz you made some big man prediction as if you knew things? You’ve proven inept in so many ways your winning prediction goes nowhere to increase your cred.

who the fck care what you think or say...Your so negative it's really pathetic, which is why i continue to have you on ignore..fckng stalker. You write like a 3rd grader, please use your ignore feature to put me on it

I agree, it would be better for the site if you both ignored each other.

Lord knows I try.

Panos wrote:Not for nothin, but we 4 games out of 3rd! Bucks 5-5 in their last 10 games!

3.5 out of 3rd.

I don’t know if I’ve ever had such a misconception about something. 6 months ago I was convinced we were going to catch Cade/Green/Suggs and I was hoping to get rid of Randle...

And now...the regular season is coming to an end, we have an 8-0 serie and we are over .500, and yes, Randle is absolutely great. What a transformation from an old school post player who doesn’t bring team wins to a modern PF who plays defense, shoots .400+ for a three and carries the team

I don’t want to wake up from this dream

Panos wrote:Not for nothin, but we 4 games out of 3rd! Bucks 5-5 in their last 10 games!

we are 2 games ahead of the play in

xavier wrote:I just want to say that I am thrilled with this year’s team.

I don’t know if I’ve ever had such a misconception about something. 6 months ago I was convinced we were going to catch Cade/Green/Suggs and I was hoping to get rid of Randle...

And now...the regular season is coming to an end, we have an 8-0 serie and we are over .500, and yes, Randle is absolutely great. What a transformation from an old school post player who doesn’t bring team wins to a modern PF who plays defense, shoots .400+ for a three and carries the team

I don’t want to wake up from this dream

If someone were to tell me back in October that this would be the way the season played out, I would have still said that I preferred Cade to an epic playoff rendezvous with the Hawks. Cade is a long term strategy. A winning record for one season is not. Very curious to see what Leon Rose has in mind for us long term now.

xavier wrote:

ESOMKnicks wrote:

xavier wrote:I just want to say that I am thrilled with this year’s team.

I don’t know if I’ve ever had such a misconception about something. 6 months ago I was convinced we were going to catch Cade/Green/Suggs and I was hoping to get rid of Randle...

And now...the regular season is coming to an end, we have an 8-0 serie and we are over .500, and yes, Randle is absolutely great. What a transformation from an old school post player who doesn’t bring team wins to a modern PF who plays defense, shoots .400+ for a three and carries the team

I don’t want to wake up from this dream

If someone were to tell me back in October that this would be the way the season played out, I would have still said that I preferred Cade to an epic playoff rendezvous with the Hawks. Cade is a long term strategy. A winning record for one season is not. Very curious to see what Leon Rose has in mind for us long term now.

Speaking of one season, it’s definitely better to catch a Cade caliber player than to do a “positive” season and lose in the first round of the playoffs. But when we take into account everything that has happened in the last 20 years, this change of mentality that Thibs brought is still better.

First, for years we had rosters full of worn-out veterans who still didn’t bring us a playoff. Then we finally started rebuilding, but we weren't lucky in the right sense either. We were always just a little lower than we needed to pick some players. I believe it would be a similar case this season and we certainly wouldn’t have a top 5 pick.

We took a different path and I am more than satisfied. We just have to acknowledge that we’re not a team like the Spurs who do one tanking and get Duncan or the Pelicans who get the first picks when Davis and Zion are in the draft.

We have a good young team, we have picks, and we also have cap space. If Rose and the rest of the team play properly in the next to offseasons, we could end up with a really great team.

The problem with tanking is Adam Silver hates Dolan and will never do us any favors in the lottery. That’s why the Timberwolves and the Pelicans win the first pick overall every year while we always get the 8th pick no matter what

And other than RJ our best draft picks in recent years have been low first round or second round

Philc1 wrote:

xavier wrote:

ESOMKnicks wrote:

xavier wrote:I just want to say that I am thrilled with this year’s team.

I don’t know if I’ve ever had such a misconception about something. 6 months ago I was convinced we were going to catch Cade/Green/Suggs and I was hoping to get rid of Randle...

And now...the regular season is coming to an end, we have an 8-0 serie and we are over .500, and yes, Randle is absolutely great. What a transformation from an old school post player who doesn’t bring team wins to a modern PF who plays defense, shoots .400+ for a three and carries the team

I don’t want to wake up from this dream

If someone were to tell me back in October that this would be the way the season played out, I would have still said that I preferred Cade to an epic playoff rendezvous with the Hawks. Cade is a long term strategy. A winning record for one season is not. Very curious to see what Leon Rose has in mind for us long term now.

Speaking of one season, it’s definitely better to catch a Cade caliber player than to do a “positive” season and lose in the first round of the playoffs. But when we take into account everything that has happened in the last 20 years, this change of mentality that Thibs brought is still better.

First, for years we had rosters full of worn-out veterans who still didn’t bring us a playoff. Then we finally started rebuilding, but we weren't lucky in the right sense either. We were always just a little lower than we needed to pick some players. I believe it would be a similar case this season and we certainly wouldn’t have a top 5 pick.

We took a different path and I am more than satisfied. We just have to acknowledge that we’re not a team like the Spurs who do one tanking and get Duncan or the Pelicans who get the first picks when Davis and Zion are in the draft.

We have a good young team, we have picks, and we also have cap space. If Rose and the rest of the team play properly in the next to offseasons, we could end up with a really great team.

The problem with tanking is Adam Silver hates Dolan and will never do us any favors in the lottery. That’s why the Timberwolves and the Pelicans win the first pick overall every year while we always get the 8th pick no matter what

And other than RJ our best draft picks in recent years have been low first round or second round

I think this is off. Adam Silver and David Stern before him are only interested in making sure the NBA gets better and makes $$$$$$$$$. When teams are about to be sold or, in the case of the Pelicans, when they lose a big time player like AD, situations need to be helped out.

NY has been one of the biggest ticket sellers and money makers even with a poor playing team and a messed up FO situation, so why help NY? I had always thought that the NBA would get a benefit from helping NY during these COVID times - and especially now that they have proved to be a legit organization who have a FO/coaching foundation and a winning team - to the benefit of the whole league.

This would be the year, IF either NY or Dallas don't make the play-in or playoffs or whatever and end up in lottery, for them to sneak one of those picks into the top 4. NY would be on TV a ton, international viewership would go up, etc., etc.

It's a win for the NBA.