franco12 wrote:If I'm a team like Orlando or Washington - hugely over the cap and in last place- then I would absolutely salivate over the prospect of modest cap relief and a chance to get our young, struggling players like Knox, Frank & Obi & a potential first round pick.

And if I am the Knicks, I have to look at trading some of these young players that aren't able to contribute and maybe need a change of scenery to determine whether they have a future in the league for an established NBA player.

Who would Orlando/Washington offer in a trade for a middling first round pick and bunch of younger unproven guys who haven't done much of note and who they don't have any roster space for?

Vmart wrote:It seems like Knox and Frank are one and the same. Both are struggling hard. Now I know both are not this bad. Something is going on. I think the trade rumors get to these guys and knowing they are not a part of the new management may have something to do with it.

Classic case of denial...

Just say accept it, they are not very good players and We have a losing record when either of them plays.

List of Excuses

He's young
Too may coaches
Trade rumors
He isn't being used right
he needs time
he needs to play more with so and so player
not enough minutes
He's injured

blkexec wrote:

martin wrote:This is Frank's opportunity and he is FAILING.

When you shoot while pretty much wide open and either barely hit rim or miss everything it's just a slap in the face. When you want to be a PG and make a pass that shouldn't even be contemplated when a defender is licking his lips waiting to intercept and almost does, Thibs notices.

Frank man, you are failing us all

I think we are failing him. Hes not a PG...hes a Swiss army knife.....3 and D guard/sf bench player. If everybody was healthy he wouldn't even get any mins. But he hasn't complained about. I think they trying to up his value as well...and probably shot themselves in the foot looking at his offensive play. 🤔

I've crossed the PG rubicon a long time ago, I'm just talking about being a productive player in the NBA who doesn't make blatant errors and hits the rim when he shoots

martin wrote:

VDesai wrote:Its clear Frank is the Chuck Knoblauch of shooting. He has the yips. He goes through these extended confidence funks. Its been several years now. He's got athletic ability, work ethic and natural talent on the defensive end, but if he has the extended yips shooting, I don't know how he can play a role. He came back with confidence and then it faded again. Its a shame because you see the flashes that he might have a nice looking jumpshot, and then he starts with the airballs as if he never shot a basketball. I think its fair to say its not gonna happen here for him.

oh that's good

That is good one. Another one was Mackey Sasser on the Mets. He always pumped two three times before throwing back to the pitchers. By the time he realized the guy on first base was standing on second base.

Vmart wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Vmart wrote:It seems like Knox and Frank are one and the same. Both are struggling hard. Now I know both are not this bad. Something is going on. I think the trade rumors get to these guys and knowing they are not a part of the new management may have something to do with it.

Classic case of denial...

Just say accept it, they are not very good players and We have a losing record when either of them plays.

List of Excuses

He's young
Too may coaches
Trade rumors
He isn't being used right
he needs time
he needs to play more with so and so player
not enough minutes
He's injured

Of course I’m in denial. I do that for all the Knicks players. Last year he was coming into his own with Miller managing him. He seemed confident and headed into right direction. All to have his confidence tested again. That is what the Knicks do. Right now we are in love with Quickly. But I guarantee you the rate he jacks up shots will annoy a lot of people. He is the flavor of the day. Obi was a bad pick. But everyone loves he can dunk. Dennis Smith Jr. is happy camper to be away from the Knicks.

I don’t like to give up on defensive players but I have to admit Frank is making it hard to watch on the offensive end. I hope he can find balance between shooting and not shooting. After a while it almost feels he wants nothing to do with the basketball.
One thing he should be picking up from. Irks and Bullock and Especially IQ is let it fly. You hesitate you are done. VDesai said it best now it’s mental. No swagger in the shot. Another problem with Frank is he lacks a damn ego. He doesn’t think he is the best player in the floor.

That's what kills me, there is zero passion in his game, and you will never mistake him for a GYM RAT

He's on of the most passive players that i have ever seen

BigDaddyG wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:Said I would not participate in yet another Frank (11th man that Knick fans dream about) thread. But I can't help myself.

As I said in 2017. He does not have IT! Now everyone sees what I mean. IQ has IT. Thought Smith Jr. had IT. Which he did but it was overtaken by a ****ty shot. It is that Alpha mentality, high-level skills and MOST importantly that inner confidence level that gives kids a chance to make it in the NBA. Especially in NY.

BTW, if we are going to continue to waste more time on insignificant Knicks players, can we get back to this guy!!

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1075546358176567296

I heard Ron hasn't been the same after his tragic hair accident.

He actually looks good.

NYKBocker wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:Said I would not participate in yet another Frank (11th man that Knick fans dream about) thread. But I can't help myself.

As I said in 2017. He does not have IT! Now everyone sees what I mean. IQ has IT. Thought Smith Jr. had IT. Which he did but it was overtaken by a ****ty shot. It is that Alpha mentality, high-level skills and MOST importantly that inner confidence level that gives kids a chance to make it in the NBA. Especially in NY.

BTW, if we are going to continue to waste more time on insignificant Knicks players, can we get back to this guy!!

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1075546358176567296

I heard Ron hasn't been the same after his tragic hair accident.

He actually looks good.

Looking like he was made for Europe

martin wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:Said I would not participate in yet another Frank (11th man that Knick fans dream about) thread. But I can't help myself.

As I said in 2017. He does not have IT! Now everyone sees what I mean. IQ has IT. Thought Smith Jr. had IT. Which he did but it was overtaken by a ****ty shot. It is that Alpha mentality, high-level skills and MOST importantly that inner confidence level that gives kids a chance to make it in the NBA. Especially in NY.

BTW, if we are going to continue to waste more time on insignificant Knicks players, can we get back to this guy!!

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1075546358176567296

I heard Ron hasn't been the same after his tragic hair accident.

He actually looks good.

It's not the same Ron Baker if he doesn't have the hair though. This must be his evil twin bro who can actually make a jumpshot

GustavBahler wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

martin wrote:

NYKBocker wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:Said I would not participate in yet another Frank (11th man that Knick fans dream about) thread. But I can't help myself.

As I said in 2017. He does not have IT! Now everyone sees what I mean. IQ has IT. Thought Smith Jr. had IT. Which he did but it was overtaken by a ****ty shot. It is that Alpha mentality, high-level skills and MOST importantly that inner confidence level that gives kids a chance to make it in the NBA. Especially in NY.

BTW, if we are going to continue to waste more time on insignificant Knicks players, can we get back to this guy!!

Tweet was deleted or there was problem with the URL:

https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1075546358176567296

I heard Ron hasn't been the same after his tragic hair accident.

He actually looks good.

It's not the same Ron Baker if he doesn't have the hair though. This must be his evil twin bro who can actually make a jumpshot

Ron without his hair is like Thor without his hammer. I feel like he's given up all hope of returning to the NBA.

Honestly thought he was done with the game. Thought Baker was going to take his 10 million and start a business somewhere. Does Baker attempt layups now?