Welpee wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:I’m not sure I get it
Derozan is a 20-7-5 50% wing. He’s a great passer which I love. His game is slightly inside the 3 point line— he doesn’t create space issues
He’s probably the best free agent by a decent margin. You can interchange Barrett and Derozan at 2-3
We only have to give up money. No assets. Meaning we can take 2 more quality draft picks and possibly add Derozan

I heard the same bad sht about Randle and many many people were wrong. Derozan also good on defense rebounds at 6-7. Good age 31– just a good player. We have back ups playing burks bullock. They are hot and cold players. Derozan is an every night player.

DeRozan is a good player. But his skills are a bit redundant to Randle and Barrett. Can't you think of a better fit? Also, DeRozan isn't very good in defense. I have watched the Spurs this year, but his defense hasn't really been a strong part of his game as a wing the past several years.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.poundingtherock.com/platform/amp/2019/11/26/20983960/demar-derozan-defense-san-antonio-spurs-worst-defender-league
The above article has a collection of video s highlighting DeRozan's poor defensive IQ.

I think this is how Briggs evaluate players: look at ppg, reb, assists and watch one or two games and if the guy plays well the Knicks need him. Basically the Isiah Thomas approach to building a team. I'm sure Briggs was all in on the Knicks signing Jerome James after a couple of good playoff games.

LOL, thats the Eddy Curry trade right there. Remember Isiah bragging about Curry's increased production every year in an interview, without mentioning the increased minutes. Those 1st round draft picks, and what felt like decades for his contract to come off the books was brutal, as a fan. As most here remember.

Curry had a real rough ride, cant say he made out like a bandit. Isiah did though.

BRIGGS wrote:

Welpee wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:I’m not sure I get it
Derozan is a 20-7-5 50% wing. He’s a great passer which I love. His game is slightly inside the 3 point line— he doesn’t create space issues
He’s probably the best free agent by a decent margin. You can interchange Barrett and Derozan at 2-3
We only have to give up money. No assets. Meaning we can take 2 more quality draft picks and possibly add Derozan

I heard the same bad sht about Randle and many many people were wrong. Derozan also good on defense rebounds at 6-7. Good age 31– just a good player. We have back ups playing burks bullock. They are hot and cold players. Derozan is an every night player.

DeRozan is a good player. But his skills are a bit redundant to Randle and Barrett. Can't you think of a better fit? Also, DeRozan isn't very good in defense. I have watched the Spurs this year, but his defense hasn't really been a strong part of his game as a wing the past several years.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.poundingtherock.com/platform/amp/2019/11/26/20983960/demar-derozan-defense-san-antonio-spurs-worst-defender-league
The above article has a collection of video s highlighting DeRozan's poor defensive IQ.

I think this is how Briggs evaluate players: look at ppg, reb, assists and watch one or two games and if the guy plays well the Knicks need him. Basically the Isiah Thomas approach to building a team. I'm sure Briggs was all in on the Knicks signing Jerome James after a couple of good playoff games.

Yeah I’ve seen Derozan 1-2 x in ten years.🙄

He’s a very good player who sits on an all star level caliber. That’s how u win— getting those types of players

true, but not after 10 years......

BRIGGS wrote:

Welpee wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:I’m not sure I get it
Derozan is a 20-7-5 50% wing. He’s a great passer which I love. His game is slightly inside the 3 point line— he doesn’t create space issues
He’s probably the best free agent by a decent margin. You can interchange Barrett and Derozan at 2-3
We only have to give up money. No assets. Meaning we can take 2 more quality draft picks and possibly add Derozan

I heard the same bad sht about Randle and many many people were wrong. Derozan also good on defense rebounds at 6-7. Good age 31– just a good player. We have back ups playing burks bullock. They are hot and cold players. Derozan is an every night player.

DeRozan is a good player. But his skills are a bit redundant to Randle and Barrett. Can't you think of a better fit? Also, DeRozan isn't very good in defense. I have watched the Spurs this year, but his defense hasn't really been a strong part of his game as a wing the past several years.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.poundingtherock.com/platform/amp/2019/11/26/20983960/demar-derozan-defense-san-antonio-spurs-worst-defender-league
The above article has a collection of video s highlighting DeRozan's poor defensive IQ.

I think this is how Briggs evaluate players: look at ppg, reb, assists and watch one or two games and if the guy plays well the Knicks need him. Basically the Isiah Thomas approach to building a team. I'm sure Briggs was all in on the Knicks signing Jerome James after a couple of good playoff games.

Yeah I’ve seen Derozan 1-2 x in ten years.🙄

He’s a very good player who sits on an all star level caliber. That’s how u win— getting those types of players

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/three-key-factors-to-spurs-unexpected-success-this-season-including-demar-derozans-raised-game-young-core/amp/

1. DeRozan's All-Star-level play

Demar DeRozan's play is where the Spurs' success begins. While he's averaging fewer points per game (19.8) this season compared to recent years, he's also averaging the most assists (6.9) of his career. He's taking the fewest shot attempts (13.4) since his rookie season, but his passing has elevated his teammates and made San Antonio a far more versatile team.

The attention he draws on offense has opened up scoring lanes:

... and good looks from deep for his teammates left and right:

DeRozan's passing has led to him being able to pick his spots more when he looks to score, and relieve some of the defensive pressure on him to create more space. He's also cut down on some of those inefficient long-range 2s, but still ranks among the league's best mid-range scorers. His usage rate (24.2 percent) is the lowest since his second season in the league, which signifies that he doesn't have to do everything under the sun on offense like he was tasked with in his previous two seasons with San Antonio. The four-time All-Star has found a better balance between knowing when to score and knowing when to get his teammates involved.

He's transformed from a high-volume, low-efficiency player to one with an effective field goal percentage above 50 percent for two straight seasons. He's also quietly become one of the better clutch scorers in the league this season, ranking 13th in the league in clutch points made.

Statistically speaking, this isn't DeRozan's best season, but his all-around offensive game has led to incredible success for the Spurs. If he played in a bigger market, he might've also been named an All-Star once again.

From the inqstr:

Spurs forward DeMar DeRozan is one of the veteran players who are expected to be moved before the March 25 trade deadline. Though they are still in the playoff race in the 2020-21 NBA season, rumors are circulating that the Spurs have already started listening to trade offers for the four-time NBA All-Star. Instead of taking the risk of losing him in the 2021 free agency, the Spurs are eyeing to trade DeRozan for assets that could help them speed up their rebuilding process.

Knicks Interested In Acquiring DeMar DeRozan

One of the teams that are currently being linked to DeRozan is the New York Knicks. According to Jake Fischer of Bleacher Report, the Knicks "have considered acquiring" the veteran small forward from the Spurs before the 2021 trade deadline.

"The ever-active Knicks have considered acquiring DeRozan, sources said, but New York has the same reservations regarding that possible move as with the Victor Oladipo scenario we detailed Monday."

It's hardly surprising that the Knicks are interested in adding DeRozan to their roster. Despite their impressive performance, the Knicks are planning to make moves that could boost their chances of ending their playoff drought this season.

Potential Knicks' Trade Package To Acquire DeMar DeRozan

In a recent article, Michael Balko of NBA Analysis Network suggested a way the Knicks would be able to land DeRozan before the 2021 trade deadline. In the proposed trade scenario, New York would send a package that includes Alec Burks, Kevin Knox, Frank Ntilikina, a 2021 first-round pick, and a 2021 second-round pick to the Spurs in exchange for DeRozan. If the trade becomes a reality, Balko believes that it would help the Knicks and the Spurs in filling up the needs to improve on their roster.

DeMar DeRozan Gives Knicks' Offensive Boosts

Chasing DeRozan before the 2021 trade deadline is definitely a risky move for the Knicks since they are basically giving away all those assets for a possible one-year rental. However, there's no doubt that DeRozan would help the Knicks become a more competitive team in the Eastern Conference in the 2020-21 NBA season.

Adding another prolific scorer like DeRozan to their roster would bring a significant improvement to the Knicks' offensive efficiency that currently ranks 22nd in the league, scoring 106.9 points per 100 possessions, per ESPN.

Spurs Get Intriguing Prospects To Develop

The proposed trade scenario should be a no-brainer for the Spurs. By sending DeRozan's expiring contract to New York, San Antonio would receive two young and promising talents in Knox and Ntilikina and two future draft picks that would enable them to add more talented prospects to their roster.

Knox and Ntilikina would be intriguing additions to the Spurs. Though they have gone through plenty of ups and downs with the Knicks, playing under Coach Gregg Popovich could help them return to the right path of becoming a legitimate superstar in the league

BRIGGS wrote:This is from a month ago?
It’s a free agent option depending on many scenarios
But no way. No way. No way am I giving up all those assets for someone I can get for free in 6 months. It’s a free agent option

By the way I still had far abs away C Woods as our number 1 free Ge t option last year and imho I was dead on right. If we had C Woods who could’ve played 30 minutes 4/5 with Robinson and Randle — we’d have the best front court in basketball

I want to win now too. BADLY. I’m willing to give up an asset or two to make the team better. For Derozan my highest is pick 32 and Knox. Not a dime more. There is NO player on the market worth 3 number 1 picks and former lottery selections. Carmelo out there? No

Not the type of player I would make a move for. This team has been good with Barrett and King Julius. They need a complimentary player that is going to slot into that 2b slot that isn't going to force RJ down to third option, or take the ball away from Randle.

I am looking at guys like Oubre, Porter, Fournier...guys that can shoot the three (havent seen much of Derozan recently but the 3 was never his thing). I'd be good with a Fournier and Mamba trade. I may even be ok with the Lonzo/Bledsoe or maybe even a Lonzo/Adams trade (Bledsoe off the bench is not bad, only his contract is. Adams may be able to take some minutes off of Julius' clock coming off the bench).

y2zipper wrote:DeRozan is actually playing the PF position this year so he isn't finding this success as a wing. Raise your hand if you knew that. He's a good player, but he doesn't space the floor or move the needle enough to be considered because you'd either have to replace Barrett or Randle with him. He takes 89 percent of his shots from 0-16 and isn't really effective beyond that.

Derozan is a slasher. He’s terrible for floor spacing. He’s also past his prime. There’s a reason the Spurs can’t wait to get rid of him

Derozan reeks of Isiah signing

awe1028 wrote:The Knicks should not be looking at the Derozan for the same reason Oladipo is not a fit: HE CANT SHOOT. Plus he the price will be way too high

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