martin wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

martin wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

martin wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:Nic Batum. Know everyone will say Batum is too old but he is coming off a big contract and can be signed for a much more affordable amount. He is shooting 44% among players with at least 100 attempts from three (6th in NBA). Marcus Morris like without the $49M left on his contract.
Bryn Forbes. Only 27. Career 40% from three. Shooting 47% on 133 attempts this year. Has only one year left at $2.5 million. Good kid to use a 2nd and expiring on.
Gary Trent Jr. Shooting 45% on a very active 188 attempts. Only 22 and 6'5. Has a QO for 2021-22 but only at $2M. Feel Blazzers will try to keep him but they have some heavy salaries to meet.
Terry Rozier. If Hornets are still looking to move him he may worth a shot. Expiring $17M 21-22 contract. Shooting 45% on 200 attempts. Upgrade at PG as well.
Malik Monk. Shooting 50% (On only 66 shots) but would be worth taking on if added to Rozier in a trade. Question is what would the Hornets want in return for both?
Norman Powell. Shooting 44%. Has expiring $11M 2021-22 contact. Having his best year with the Raptors.
Anfernee Simmons. Only 21. Shooting 42%. Those around Portland say he is the next break out scorer aka McCollum. Maybe trade some of our win now vets and younger lets move on pieces
Chris Boucher. Best shooting percentage among Centers with over 100 attempts. If Knicks are looking for a stretch 5, he may be it. Expiring $7M in 2021-22.

Let me know who you guys think may be shooters we can add?

Good list. I'd add Evan Fournier

I would say that the Knicks will probably target guys that are within an age range that can grow with team, so someone like Batum would be out (and he prob would want a contending team anyway).

Second guess would be that they target UFA's first for the obvious ease to add to team UNLESS the player is a very targeted, specific talent in the eyes of the FO.

I don't know enough about some guys on the list but I like Powell and then Fournier.

Like Fournier. Would not cost any assets as he is an UFA. But the Knicks would have to decide where to put RJ. Think Fournier may also be a guy some will overpay for. Averaged $17M a year on his last long contract. And with him averaging over 18 a game, the last two years, I do not see the price getting cheaper.

Agree about the preference for guys that fit the timeline. Batum was more a low cost vet idea, which the Knicks also seem to like.

Feel like RJ/Fournier both interchangeable at SF/SG

Possibly. Although some may say RJ does not have the shooting consistency to be considered a true SG in the NBA.

Others say RJ does not have the shooting consistency to be considered a true SF in the NBA.

Lol. We call both those groups haters. Others may call them statisticians.

TPercy wrote:The advanced stats on Simmons are quite terrible. -7.1 defensive RAPTOR and -1.3 wins over replacement. Given his age and improvements he likely isn't even close to final form tho so theres hope in that.

Would agree that he is not much more than a scorer right now. However, he is still young and is playing on a team that does not exactly preach defense. But like I said, the kid can shoot. And judging by a lot of our young draft picks that we have had. That is a must in today's NBA.

HofstraBBall wrote:

Knixkik wrote:I saw a scouting report on the Athletic and apparently Gary Trent Jr has a very good defensive reputation (I didn't realize that) and is used in lineups with Melo and Kanter to provide defensive support. If that's the case, giving his shooting and age, he might be a good player to really invest in this summer. He's a big time catch and shoot guy. Not a playmaker at all. But he's a good option as a long-term starting wing between Barrett and Quickley.

Will be curious to see how much the Blazzers are willing to match. He has stepped in quite nicely in the starting line up due to injuries which was surprising. I thought he was more suited to a second unit type role as he tends to like to shoot everything. ie Lou Williams type. Blazzers have over $115 million committed for 2021-22 ($74M for Lillard and CJ) and have to deal with a possible contract extension for Nurkic in 2022. Who you would think is a part of their core. This also does not inlcude Collins, who although injured they are very high on, Anthony and Kanter. Or guys that will replace them.

They offered $15M per and Trent already rejected that. Don't feel comfortable giving Trent $20M and that's probably what it would take for the Blazers to stand down.

HofstraBBall wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

HofstraBBall wrote:

Knixkik wrote:I saw a scouting report on the Athletic and apparently Gary Trent Jr has a very good defensive reputation (I didn't realize that) and is used in lineups with Melo and Kanter to provide defensive support. If that's the case, giving his shooting and age, he might be a good player to really invest in this summer. He's a big time catch and shoot guy. Not a playmaker at all. But he's a good option as a long-term starting wing between Barrett and Quickley.

Will be curious to see how much the Blazzers are willing to match. He has stepped in quite nicely in the starting line up due to injuries which was surprising. I thought he was more suited to a second unit type role as he tends to like to shoot everything. ie Lou Williams type. Blazzers have over $115 million committed for 2021-22 ($74M for Lillard and CJ) and have to deal with a possible contract extension for Nurkic in 2022. Who you would think is a part of their core. This also does not inlcude Collins, who although injured they are very high on, Anthony and Kanter. Or guys that will replace them.

They offered $15M per and Trent already rejected that. Don't feel comfortable giving Trent $20M and that's probably what it would take for the Blazers to stand down.

They offered 4 years with about $1m annual step up starting at $12M in 2021. Think $15M a year would do it. Also think it may be more about getting a bigger role. With CJ and Dame there, don't think he would get that in Portland.

My bad. It's about $13.5 per year. Still think they match $15M. Factor in it's a weak FA class, the Knicks will probably have to go about $18M-$20M. Not feeling it for Trent.

TPercy wrote:It’s also important to keep in mind that we are projected to have 50M in cap space( assuming Randle option is exercised) and we probably want to preserve cap space for 1 max slot 22’/23’ FA. Not to mention we will have to pay Mitch whose value I think is around 10-15mm per yr and if Randle keeps it up for another year we’ll be paying close to max to keep him as well. So realistically, how much can we afford to pay?

As long as you pay guys contracts that they fill, it's OK. Cap space can be used during season to facilitate, but if you are in the market to turn Fournier + a 1st into Beal, you can do that too

TPercy wrote:

martin wrote:

TPercy wrote:It’s also important to keep in mind that we are projected to have 50M in cap space( assuming Randle option is exercised) and we probably want to preserve cap space for 1 max slot 22’/23’ FA. Not to mention we will have to pay Mitch whose value I think is around 10-15mm per yr and if Randle keeps it up for another year we’ll be paying close to max to keep him as well. So realistically, how much can we afford to pay?

As long as you pay guys contracts that they fill, it's OK. Cap space can be used during season to facilitate, but if you are in the market to turn Fournier + a 1st into Beal, you can do that too

Hmmmm good point. Provided that players are playing at market value, trades can also be very helpful.

As long as you are building up. Randle turned out to be a good sign, Payton on a $10M multi year, not so good.

Feel like Knicks have the coaching staff that will pump guys up, just like Brooklyn with Atkinson

TLover wrote:Cam Reddish would be of interest for possibly Knox.. problem with Knox is that he is a PF not SF.
Reddish already plays good D and would learn under a vet like Bullock.

This I would do in a heartbeat.