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unstopaball12
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2/16/2021  10:46 AM
Only deal I'd for Drummond:

Noel, rivers and our worst second round pick. For our extra roster spot, I'd convert theo pinsons contract to a regular one.

AUTOADVERT
fishmike
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2/16/2021  10:49 AM
no thanks... Drummond has his uses but he's not that great. He's a physical beast and will gobble up boards and get tons of garbage points but despite his good stats he's not a high impact player. He's kind of a rich man's Enes Kanter. He cant guard smaller quicker guys in any kind of space (so like everyone). His rim protection is below average. The Knicks are a very good rebounding and defensive team already. Drummond is not making us better enough.

9 years in the league he's got 8 playoff games under his belt. This is not the guy who is going to elevate us

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2/16/2021  9:48 PM
BRIGGS wrote:
We have Gibson and Noel
If we need another body we have to think about it wisely.
We don’t have Quickley if we think like this.
I’m not opposed to giving up a 1 in the right deal for a really good player
But only a 2 for a pending free agent and while Drummond is a good player. — it’s not the route to go

Agree

This is a shooters league. We should save the larger cap holds on elite shooting. Mitch at the five goes well with any team who has elite shooting and a high level PG. Drummond, although a very good big, represents a type of game that has not shown to translate into chip contention.

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EwingsGlass
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2/16/2021  10:02 PM
HofstraBBall wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
We have Gibson and Noel
If we need another body we have to think about it wisely.
We don’t have Quickley if we think like this.
I’m not opposed to giving up a 1 in the right deal for a really good player
But only a 2 for a pending free agent and while Drummond is a good player. — it’s not the route to go

Agree

This is a shooters league. We should save the larger cap holds on elite shooting. Mitch at the five goes well with any team who has elite shooting and a high level PG. Drummond, although a very good big, represents a type of game that has not shown to translate into chip contention.

From a resource management perspective, the Knicks certainly should look to package their draft picks to arrive at either a better draft prospect or a budding player on a cap friendly contract (eg Shai Gilgous-Alexander). Questionable whether they could really roster three more rookies next year.

I’d be inclined to use assets to upgrade PG and SF. I am not looking to move Barrett, but if an upgrade presented itself, the Knicks should listen.

You know I gonna spin wit it
HofstraBBall
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2/17/2021  1:13 PM
EwingsGlass wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
We have Gibson and Noel
If we need another body we have to think about it wisely.
We don’t have Quickley if we think like this.
I’m not opposed to giving up a 1 in the right deal for a really good player
But only a 2 for a pending free agent and while Drummond is a good player. — it’s not the route to go

Agree

This is a shooters league. We should save the larger cap holds on elite shooting. Mitch at the five goes well with any team who has elite shooting and a high level PG. Drummond, although a very good big, represents a type of game that has not shown to translate into chip contention.

From a resource management perspective, the Knicks certainly should look to package their draft picks to arrive at either a better draft prospect or a budding player on a cap friendly contract (eg Shai Gilgous-Alexander). Questionable whether they could really roster three more rookies next year.

I’d be inclined to use assets to upgrade PG and SF. I am not looking to move Barrett, but if an upgrade presented itself, the Knicks should listen.

Yikes

https://www.nbaanalysis.net/2021/02/17/nba-rumors-three-team-trade-andre-drummond-new-york-knicks/

'Knicks focus should be on players that have grown up playing soccer or cricket' - Triplethreat 8/28/2020
BigDaddyG
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2/17/2021  2:37 PM
HofstraBBall wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
We have Gibson and Noel
If we need another body we have to think about it wisely.
We don’t have Quickley if we think like this.
I’m not opposed to giving up a 1 in the right deal for a really good player
But only a 2 for a pending free agent and while Drummond is a good player. — it’s not the route to go

Agree

This is a shooters league. We should save the larger cap holds on elite shooting. Mitch at the five goes well with any team who has elite shooting and a high level PG. Drummond, although a very good big, represents a type of game that has not shown to translate into chip contention.

From a resource management perspective, the Knicks certainly should look to package their draft picks to arrive at either a better draft prospect or a budding player on a cap friendly contract (eg Shai Gilgous-Alexander). Questionable whether they could really roster three more rookies next year.

I’d be inclined to use assets to upgrade PG and SF. I am not looking to move Barrett, but if an upgrade presented itself, the Knicks should listen.

Yikes

https://www.nbaanalysis.net/2021/02/17/nba-rumors-three-team-trade-andre-drummond-new-york-knicks/

That trade by itself isn't bad. But when you factor in team needs, I'm not sure it makes sense.

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fishmike
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2/17/2021  4:51 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
EwingsGlass wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
We have Gibson and Noel
If we need another body we have to think about it wisely.
We don’t have Quickley if we think like this.
I’m not opposed to giving up a 1 in the right deal for a really good player
But only a 2 for a pending free agent and while Drummond is a good player. — it’s not the route to go

Agree

This is a shooters league. We should save the larger cap holds on elite shooting. Mitch at the five goes well with any team who has elite shooting and a high level PG. Drummond, although a very good big, represents a type of game that has not shown to translate into chip contention.

From a resource management perspective, the Knicks certainly should look to package their draft picks to arrive at either a better draft prospect or a budding player on a cap friendly contract (eg Shai Gilgous-Alexander). Questionable whether they could really roster three more rookies next year.

I’d be inclined to use assets to upgrade PG and SF. I am not looking to move Barrett, but if an upgrade presented itself, the Knicks should listen.

Yikes

https://www.nbaanalysis.net/2021/02/17/nba-rumors-three-team-trade-andre-drummond-new-york-knicks/

That trade by itself isn't bad. But when you factor in team needs, I'm not sure it makes sense.

Its a TERRIBLE PHUCKING trade and will never happen. The reason? We own the Mav's unprotected first rounder, so now we are going to help them by trading all our wings and keep them out of the lottery?

Aside from wishing ill on their players we have an acting interest in keeping the Mavs as bad as possible

"winning is more fun... then fun is fun" -Thibs
Philc1
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2/20/2021  5:18 AM
martin wrote:
Philc1 wrote:Let’s get him. We have the picks to offer. Then resign him next summer and use Mitch as trade bait

Literally to what end?

And are we talking about a 2nd round pick protected out to 50? If so, I'm OK with that.... maybe

The next two offseason’s several superstars are going to be available via sign and trade or just trade

Philc1
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2/20/2021  5:19 AM
houston20 wrote:I think the knicks should trade for andre drummond only make up 23 million dollars in salary i would do frank, ignaz brazdigis, 2 second round picks, and 15 million in capspace.
The expiring contract of Andre Drummond is the biggest factor determining his trade value, according to Bobby Marks of ESPN, as the Cleveland Cavaliers are shutting down the veteran center until they can strike a deal.

Drummond is due to make $28.7 million this season.

That means the Cavs will have to take back $23 million worth of contracts in a Drummond trade, and that effort “is a big obstacle right now,” Marks noted.

That said, plenty of teams have a high interest in Drummond, who led the NBA in rebounding last season and is averaging 17.5 points and 13.5 rebounds this year. The list supposedly includes the Toronto Raptors, Boston Celtics, Charlotte Hornets, Brooklyn Nets, Portland Trail Blazers, New York Knicks and Los Angeles Clippers.

Sources told FortyEightMinutes that Drummond became unhappy with his decreased minutes after the Cavs traded for young center Jarrett Allen, formerly of the Nets.

“Here’s the big question I have when it comes to Andre Drummond,” Marks tweeted. “What happens at 3:01 p.m. on March 25 (trade deadline) when he hasn’t been traded and has been shut down for five weeks? Could be a difference-maker if there’s a buyout down the road.”

Drummond and Cavs coach J.B. Bickerstaff reportedly have had multiple conversations about Drummond’s approach and effort in recent weeks.

Cavs general manager Koby Altman and Drummond’s camp agreed for Drummond to remain with the team, but not play, until a trade can be made.

https://fortyeightminutes.com/andre-drummond-trade-cavs/

Frank, Iggie, Noel and a pick

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2/20/2021  9:04 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/20/2021  9:05 AM
If Drummond is your 3rd or 4th best player, maybe. If a team is bringing him in to be their #1 or #2 guy, good luck with that. Drummond has proven he's not of difference maker. Why do you think he regularly gets punked by Embiid? Drummond's numbers look impressive on paper which is why some Knicks fans are salivating to get him, but I guarantee once he gets here Knick fans will turn on him in a heart beat. Ask yourself this, two of the worst teams in the league (Detroit and Cleveland) decided he's not part of the plan to rebuild. In spite of his numbers, look how little Detroit got in return for him. You guys don't see these massive red flags?

Drummond needs to land on a team with an established, veteran winning foundation who can hide his massive flaws and take advantage of what he does well. The Knicks are not in that position, unless you really think Thibs can unlock him.

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