Jmpasq wrote:

martin wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

Knicksfan wrote:We all know where we were before the season began:

Go full time with the youth. Obi and R.J. are the future. Trade Randle for a can of beans as soon as you can, along with Payton.

While the Payton cry hasn't changed, Randle has dramatically changed his game this season to the point of justifying a change in the long-term rebuilding plan. So this is a post about a scenario where we not only keep Randle past next season, but make him one of our centerpieces. But this team certainly needs another main piece. In a perfect world, Randle is the star #2 and RJ is the solid #3 to be the main leaders.

So, considering Randle's game as a Point -Forward who can shoot from anywhere and rebound with the best, who is the best guy to complement him considering not only his game but also his age? Randle is a young veteran still in his 20's.

Trade for Otto Porter. Giving away picks for Rose was stupid bcause we could of got someone better

The pick that'll be a second rounder in the 40's?

Yep, Rose is not worth a positive asset. He is a negative sum player

So who are you getting better by trading that pick?

martin wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

Knicksfan wrote:We all know where we were before the season began:

Go full time with the youth. Obi and R.J. are the future. Trade Randle for a can of beans as soon as you can, along with Payton.

While the Payton cry hasn't changed, Randle has dramatically changed his game this season to the point of justifying a change in the long-term rebuilding plan. So this is a post about a scenario where we not only keep Randle past next season, but make him one of our centerpieces. But this team certainly needs another main piece. In a perfect world, Randle is the star #2 and RJ is the solid #3 to be the main leaders.

So, considering Randle's game as a Point -Forward who can shoot from anywhere and rebound with the best, who is the best guy to complement him considering not only his game but also his age? Randle is a young veteran still in his 20's.

Trade for Otto Porter. Giving away picks for Rose was stupid bcause we could of got someone better

The pick that'll be a second rounder in the 40's?

Exactly....plus, we have frank. payton, rivers type players on short term salaries and perfect trade bait for a better pick. Remember what the FO did with that trade down trade up strategy....I can see that happening again with the next trade. So not worried about losing that pick. But warming up to rose coming back....on and off the court mentorship. Plus they probably tired of IQ being so buddy buddy with every star player....and would like someone thats a better mentor for him in house...and will be around for a few years. Payton seems more reserved...I could be wrong....but we know hes gone soon. Smart move...someone thibs can yank in and out of lineup with no back talk. Gives him roster flexibility...when its players he knows and they know him.

EwingsGlass wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

martin wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

Knicksfan wrote:We all know where we were before the season began:

Go full time with the youth. Obi and R.J. are the future. Trade Randle for a can of beans as soon as you can, along with Payton.

While the Payton cry hasn't changed, Randle has dramatically changed his game this season to the point of justifying a change in the long-term rebuilding plan. So this is a post about a scenario where we not only keep Randle past next season, but make him one of our centerpieces. But this team certainly needs another main piece. In a perfect world, Randle is the star #2 and RJ is the solid #3 to be the main leaders.

So, considering Randle's game as a Point -Forward who can shoot from anywhere and rebound with the best, who is the best guy to complement him considering not only his game but also his age? Randle is a young veteran still in his 20's.

Trade for Otto Porter. Giving away picks for Rose was stupid bcause we could of got someone better

The pick that'll be a second rounder in the 40's?

Yep, Rose is not worth a positive asset. He is a negative sum player

I don’t think your perception is supported by the facts or stats. He is an older player now, but has been putting up 14 and 4 in 22 minutes for Det. And I think Thibs will get the best out of him.

Rose seems to have improved as a passer and slightly as an outside shooter since he was here last. And I think he suits his role as a 6th man type. I would just feel better about this move if Payton wasn't still here, but maybe he will be moved still. I'd like to move Payton and keep Rivers due to his shooting, defense, and ability to help at 2 positions. Thibs has always seemed comfortable without a pure PG. Quickley, Rose, and Rivers will work.

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