knicks1248 wrote:

MS wrote:Honestly looking at the trade, I think we are forgetting we actually gave them two good role players.

THJR 17.5pts 44.3%
Burke 11pts 45%

KP has been a major disappointment, that’s not debatable. The trade still isn’t great, unless we get a lottery pick this season which looks very possible.

We had one max slot available to sign without making a trade, so saying we signed Randle with the cap space isn’t necessarily true.

We actually misused our cap in a big way, at the detriment of development.

The KP trade is Smith and three first rounders. Honestly without a regime change we wouldn’t have been able to get Quick, which leads me to believe they will nail the Dallas pick.

I still think there was a better deal out there with competent management in place. They essentially flushed the roster without information that they had commitments from Irving snd Durant.

You never get a good package rushing. Im not saying I would have maxed him, but you can never let players threaten you.

All of this is Facts.

KP would have had been a better fit next to Randle, and mitch of the bench

MS wrote:Honestly looking at the trade, I think we are forgetting we actually gave them two good role players.

THJR 17.5pts 44.3%
Burke 11pts 45%

KP has been a major disappointment, that’s not debatable. The trade still isn’t great, unless we get a lottery pick this season which looks very possible.

We had one max slot available to sign without making a trade, so saying we signed Randle with the cap space isn’t necessarily true.

We actually misused our cap in a big way, at the detriment of development.

The KP trade is Smith and three first rounders. Honestly without a regime change we wouldn’t have been able to get Quick, which leads me to believe they will nail the Dallas pick.

I still think there was a better deal out there with competent management in place. They essentially flushed the roster without information that they had commitments from Irving snd Durant.

You never get a good package rushing. Im not saying I would have maxed him, but you can never let players threaten you.

If we don't move THJ, then we don't get Randle and Morris. We don't get Morris, then we don't get IQ. This has several layers that need to be peeled, and we won't know the "winner" for years. Also, the Knicks tried to push KP for AD, Fox, Bagley and few others. All those teams declined. The problem is that we didn't trade KP when Phil was shopping him. His value was much higher then.

CanItGetAnyWorse wrote:I B all teary eyed right now! Seeing KP with a side helping of Timmy helping us to get that lotto pick! Let us all pray it continues. We deserve it!

It is crazy that Randle is playing so well, better than KP imo. KP can block shots and play good help D with his length, but he really is not getting better. And where is his shot?
I feel bad for the guy in a way, but he made his bed in this situation. Enjoy sleeping in it.

We are gonna have 2 nice picks in the middle or higher of the first round this next draft. And I think we gots 2 in the 2nd as well? Oh boy, assets.

If KP stays healthy, I wouldn't be shocked to see Dallas trade him at the deadline for a better fit next to Luka. Though, he should be fine with Luka you would think.

In other news, let's see what DSJ gots because, as crazy as it sounds, he can either be a trade asset or do some PG'ing here. (If not you take your loss.) But these short rotations are gonna bite us.

KP is going to be hard to move now. He already signed the max extension. It's going to be hard to get equal value in return.

BigDaddyG wrote:

CanItGetAnyWorse wrote:I B all teary eyed right now! Seeing KP with a side helping of Timmy helping us to get that lotto pick! Let us all pray it continues. We deserve it!

It is crazy that Randle is playing so well, better than KP imo. KP can block shots and play good help D with his length, but he really is not getting better. And where is his shot?
I feel bad for the guy in a way, but he made his bed in this situation. Enjoy sleeping in it.

We are gonna have 2 nice picks in the middle or higher of the first round this next draft. And I think we gots 2 in the 2nd as well? Oh boy, assets.

If KP stays healthy, I wouldn't be shocked to see Dallas trade him at the deadline for a better fit next to Luka. Though, he should be fine with Luka you would think.

In other news, let's see what DSJ gots because, as crazy as it sounds, he can either be a trade asset or do some PG'ing here. (If not you take your loss.) But these short rotations are gonna bite us.

KP is going to be hard to move now. He already signed the max extension. It's going to be hard to get equal value in return.

AD was just as injury prone if not more, kawhi is the definition of load management, PG13, cp3, westbrook, kD, Kyrie. i really can't think of any player not Name LBJ that have had their fair share of injuries.

It's just part of the game, all of this players are brittle

knicks1248 wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

CanItGetAnyWorse wrote:I B all teary eyed right now! Seeing KP with a side helping of Timmy helping us to get that lotto pick! Let us all pray it continues. We deserve it!

It is crazy that Randle is playing so well, better than KP imo. KP can block shots and play good help D with his length, but he really is not getting better. And where is his shot?
I feel bad for the guy in a way, but he made his bed in this situation. Enjoy sleeping in it.

We are gonna have 2 nice picks in the middle or higher of the first round this next draft. And I think we gots 2 in the 2nd as well? Oh boy, assets.

If KP stays healthy, I wouldn't be shocked to see Dallas trade him at the deadline for a better fit next to Luka. Though, he should be fine with Luka you would think.

In other news, let's see what DSJ gots because, as crazy as it sounds, he can either be a trade asset or do some PG'ing here. (If not you take your loss.) But these short rotations are gonna bite us.

KP is going to be hard to move now. He already signed the max extension. It's going to be hard to get equal value in return.

AD was just as injury prone if not more, kawhi is the definition of load management, PG13, cp3, westbrook, kD, Kyrie. i really can't think of any player not Name LBJ that have had their fair share of injuries.

It's just part of the game, all of this players are brittle

KP is in a different class of brittle and if you can't see the difference, you are willfully blind

StarksEwing1 wrote:

martin wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

CanItGetAnyWorse wrote:I B all teary eyed right now! Seeing KP with a side helping of Timmy helping us to get that lotto pick! Let us all pray it continues. We deserve it!

It is crazy that Randle is playing so well, better than KP imo. KP can block shots and play good help D with his length, but he really is not getting better. And where is his shot?
I feel bad for the guy in a way, but he made his bed in this situation. Enjoy sleeping in it.

We are gonna have 2 nice picks in the middle or higher of the first round this next draft. And I think we gots 2 in the 2nd as well? Oh boy, assets.

If KP stays healthy, I wouldn't be shocked to see Dallas trade him at the deadline for a better fit next to Luka. Though, he should be fine with Luka you would think.

In other news, let's see what DSJ gots because, as crazy as it sounds, he can either be a trade asset or do some PG'ing here. (If not you take your loss.) But these short rotations are gonna bite us.

KP is going to be hard to move now. He already signed the max extension. It's going to be hard to get equal value in return.

AD was just as injury prone if not more, kawhi is the definition of load management, PG13, cp3, westbrook, kD, Kyrie. i really can't think of any player not Name LBJ that have had their fair share of injuries.

It's just part of the game, all of this players are brittle

KP is in a different class of brittle and if you can't see the difference, you are willfully blind

Exactly. Plus he was causing drama and said he never wanted to play for the team again basically

Good jobs on the “What if” accuracy. We forget things are related. Revising back we forget time and space with the windows of opportunities.

martin wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

CanItGetAnyWorse wrote:I B all teary eyed right now! Seeing KP with a side helping of Timmy helping us to get that lotto pick! Let us all pray it continues. We deserve it!

It is crazy that Randle is playing so well, better than KP imo. KP can block shots and play good help D with his length, but he really is not getting better. And where is his shot?
I feel bad for the guy in a way, but he made his bed in this situation. Enjoy sleeping in it.

We are gonna have 2 nice picks in the middle or higher of the first round this next draft. And I think we gots 2 in the 2nd as well? Oh boy, assets.

If KP stays healthy, I wouldn't be shocked to see Dallas trade him at the deadline for a better fit next to Luka. Though, he should be fine with Luka you would think.

In other news, let's see what DSJ gots because, as crazy as it sounds, he can either be a trade asset or do some PG'ing here. (If not you take your loss.) But these short rotations are gonna bite us.

KP is going to be hard to move now. He already signed the max extension. It's going to be hard to get equal value in return.

AD was just as injury prone if not more, kawhi is the definition of load management, PG13, cp3, westbrook, kD, Kyrie. i really can't think of any player not Name LBJ that have had their fair share of injuries.

It's just part of the game, all of this players are brittle

KP is in a different class of brittle and if you can't see the difference, you are willfully blind

Dude you know I called that out months before he was traded...and you tried to bash me then

I question if he even deserve a max because I personally didn't think so...

I never ever thought he was a franchise player, but would be a solid part of a core.

When I get some time i can go back and bring up all of the KP threads right up until he requested a trade, and how drastically you guys opinion change of him, a complete 180.

His brother, his injuries, his low rebound #s, his fatigue issues, skipping out on meetings, none of that sht matter to you guys...KP was the Man around here, In fact some of you were ready to fire phil on the spot for even considering trading him.

Now you bash him every chance you get..

knicks1248 wrote:

martin wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

CanItGetAnyWorse wrote:I B all teary eyed right now! Seeing KP with a side helping of Timmy helping us to get that lotto pick! Let us all pray it continues. We deserve it!

It is crazy that Randle is playing so well, better than KP imo. KP can block shots and play good help D with his length, but he really is not getting better. And where is his shot?
I feel bad for the guy in a way, but he made his bed in this situation. Enjoy sleeping in it.

We are gonna have 2 nice picks in the middle or higher of the first round this next draft. And I think we gots 2 in the 2nd as well? Oh boy, assets.

If KP stays healthy, I wouldn't be shocked to see Dallas trade him at the deadline for a better fit next to Luka. Though, he should be fine with Luka you would think.

In other news, let's see what DSJ gots because, as crazy as it sounds, he can either be a trade asset or do some PG'ing here. (If not you take your loss.) But these short rotations are gonna bite us.

KP is going to be hard to move now. He already signed the max extension. It's going to be hard to get equal value in return.

AD was just as injury prone if not more, kawhi is the definition of load management, PG13, cp3, westbrook, kD, Kyrie. i really can't think of any player not Name LBJ that have had their fair share of injuries.

It's just part of the game, all of this players are brittle

KP is in a different class of brittle and if you can't see the difference, you are willfully blind

Dude you know I called that out months before he was traded...and you tried to bash me then

I question if he even deserve a max because I personally didn't think so...

I never ever thought he was a franchise player, but would be a solid part of a core.

When I get some time i can go back and bring up all of the KP threads right up until he requested a trade, and how drastically you guys opinion change of him, a complete 180.

His brother, his injuries, his low rebound #s, his fatigue issues, skipping out on meetings, none of that sht matter to you guys...KP was the Man around here, In fact some of you were ready to fire phil on the spot for even considering trading him.

Now you bash him every chance you get..

And although of course I take no pleasure in the idea of a Porzingdog demise, I will posit that he was expected to be Robin to Luka's Batman -- perhaps it would be more fair to assign him the role of say a Commissioner Gordon. Or Alfred. Aunt Harriet?

KnickDanger wrote:Love to hate KP for sure, but really love to stick it to all the trolling media who pissed all over the Knicks for making the trade. Cap space has already given us Randle and Quickley plus. That’s before we even see what the #1’s bring. Not to mention that $102 million for who knows what won’t be our problem.

And the horse he rode in on....

The media has already forgotten about Porzingis in Dallas