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2021 trade deadline is fast approaching, who do you want the Knicks to try to get?
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HofstraBBall
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1/20/2021  8:55 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/20/2021  9:03 AM
Think the Nets having the big three may change the game plan for Rose. As that seemed to be his hope for the Knicks. He may now shift to a longer timeline. Which would be to stick to building through the draft. Do not see Beal, Heid, Victor or other high priced options changing the teams eventual outcome. Which is probably a first round win or exit. For me, the current team is building chemistry, is fun to watch and has as much potential to surprise as any other good team in the league. Would only do a trade if there is an opportunity to add TWO superstars. Which there are none currently. So think it's best to just wait or only do trades that would take on short term salary dumps and come with additional draft picks.
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1/20/2021  9:13 AM
KnickDanger wrote:Personally, the only trades I'd like to see are ones focused on the long term. If that's a Lonzo Ball then okay, but not at too high a price. The players we really want may be coming from those #1 picks.


🤫 don’t tell sone of these fans that. That always looking for used “stars” no stars are ever on the Knicks just other teams (sarcasm)

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1/20/2021  9:39 AM
Media likes to have us in “Savior mode”.
Dipo or not to Dipo? If so then he drives his path. Rockets might have a promise already at a price agreed to. Ok.
Maybe they want to wait. Ok. Maybe Dipo is confident and wants to wait it out and cash in. OK. If so then its fair game for all.
I don’t want to trade for a pending free agent unless its a cap thing.

Thoughts.......If Randle is not in or long term plan and we are not playoff bound then his value is good and perhaps we can turn that into something good. At the moment we are in the playoff hunt. If this continues I prefer stand put and let it develop organically.

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1/20/2021  10:41 AM    LAST EDITED: 1/20/2021  10:43 AM
Yeah, there is the temptation to sell high on Randle but what do you get in return? I know last year people were suggesting trading him for a #2 or even cutting him (no sense of course) but are you getting a player in his age range (approaching prime) and salary (excellent value actually). Which leaves the prospect of draft picks but unless it's a probable lottery pick why do it? And teams heading for the lottery aren't trading for Randle.

BTW, I put this on another thread but would you put Randle in a trade for KP today?

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1/20/2021  10:49 AM
KnickDanger wrote:Yeah, there is the temptation to sell high on Randle but what do you get in return? I know last year people were suggesting trading him for a #2 or even cutting him (no sense of course) but are you getting a player in his age range (approaching prime) and salary (excellent value actually). Which leaves the prospect of draft picks but unless it's a probable lottery pick why do it? And teams heading for the lottery aren't trading for Randle.

BTW, I put this on another thread but would you put Randle in a trade for KP today?

Yes, yes, yes. I don’t care how jerk-ass his brother is. I would make that trade every day. The Mavs would laugh about it before slamming the phone, obviously but the Knicks would be silly for turning that down.

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1/20/2021  11:10 AM
If I'm Rose, I go after Vucevic. Not sure if Orlando will move him, but they are over the cap and near the apron and he is on the books @ $22M for 2 more years after this season. Stretch 5 who would create space. Might have to move Mitch, Expiring (Bullock & Frank) and a Dallas #1 to get him.
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1/20/2021  11:29 AM
The only player I am willing to trade for would be Bradley Beal. I don't know what it would cost but my limit would be 1 1st round pick plus players. I would have Quickley, RJ, Mitch and Obi as untouchables. If they want Randle then it has to be straight up. No picks.
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1/20/2021  11:44 AM
NYKBocker wrote:The only player I am willing to trade for would be Bradley Beal. I don't know what it would cost but my limit would be 1 1st round pick plus players. I would have Quickley, RJ, Mitch and Obi as untouchables. If they want Randle then it has to be straight up. No picks.

If you're trading for Beal than you have to keep Randle. For me it would be Toppin and picks for Beal, or i'll pass.

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1/20/2021  11:58 AM
Allanfan20 wrote:
KnickDanger wrote:Yeah, there is the temptation to sell high on Randle but what do you get in return? I know last year people were suggesting trading him for a #2 or even cutting him (no sense of course) but are you getting a player in his age range (approaching prime) and salary (excellent value actually). Which leaves the prospect of draft picks but unless it's a probable lottery pick why do it? And teams heading for the lottery aren't trading for Randle.

BTW, I put this on another thread but would you put Randle in a trade for KP today?

Yes, yes, yes. I don’t care how jerk-ass his brother is. I would make that trade every day. The Mavs would laugh about it before slamming the phone, obviously but the Knicks would be silly for turning that down.

Man, I really miss the drama. The tweets, the snide comments. Sometimes I wonder how is it that we are able to function as a team without Porzingises broken ass on that bench. I understand that Randle's triple doubles are not attractive to you and watching our center average 7 rebounds while playing but mostly just sitting on the bench healing from yet another injury is much better.

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1/20/2021  12:09 PM
I'd consider Hield at a low cost if Bullock and/or Burks is not able to return and provide some consistent outside shooting

I like the idea of Ball as he could probably be obtained at a reasonable cost. We certainly need help at PG and one thing he would uniquely bring is he plays fast and that is another issue we struggle with against upper echelon teams (eg Denver game).

I've already posted that I'd sell high on Randle and go for Zach Lavine (or Booker if he became available) - adding reasonable amount of pick(s) if needed. Truly believe it will come to this at some point so would rather be proactive than wait for mediocrity just because we're so desperate to be anything but awful.

So overall - maybe we should really consider trying to add Ball to start and see how that impacts things.

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1/20/2021  7:09 PM
The Lonzo Ball trade rumors are starting. I do hope the FO can swing a trade deal for him. The only knack on ball is the drama that comes with his father but with Lamelo in the league it might not be that bad. Oh, his shooting is another one but he has shown improvement, he only needs consistency.

I also want to get Oladipo or maybe a safer less costly option is Heild. Assembling a young starting 5 of Mitch, Randle, RJ, Oladipo/Heild and Lonzo will get the knicks closer to the final product of the rebuild. The next 3 drafts should be used to solidify the bench and find the successors of the current starting 5. For now the knicks have Obi, knox and Quickly. If the knicks can manage to find a good back up center and a dynamic SG with the knicks 1st round and the dallas pick, the knicks can potentially have a strong team for years to come, a 10-man team deep squad.

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1/20/2021  7:14 PM
Jimbo5 wrote:The Lonzo Ball trade rumors are starting. I do hope the FO can swing a trade deal for him. The only knack on ball is the drama that comes with his father but with Lamelo in the league it might not be that bad. Oh, his shooting is another one but he has shown improvement, he only needs consistency.

I also want to get Oladipo or maybe a safer less costly option is Heild. Assembling a young starting 5 of Mitch, Randle, RJ, Oladipo/Heild and Lonzo will get the knicks closer to the final product of the rebuild. The next 3 drafts should be used to solidify the bench and find the successors of the current starting 5. For now the knicks have Obi, knox and Quickly. If the knicks can manage to find a good back up center and a dynamic SG with the knicks 1st round and the dallas pick, the knicks can potentially have a strong team for years to come, a 10-man team deep squad.

He's doodoo this year man. I was interested in him too, but I'd wait for him to find his form again before pulling the trigger.

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1/20/2021  7:29 PM
TPercy wrote:
Jimbo5 wrote:The Lonzo Ball trade rumors are starting. I do hope the FO can swing a trade deal for him. The only knack on ball is the drama that comes with his father but with Lamelo in the league it might not be that bad. Oh, his shooting is another one but he has shown improvement, he only needs consistency.

I also want to get Oladipo or maybe a safer less costly option is Heild. Assembling a young starting 5 of Mitch, Randle, RJ, Oladipo/Heild and Lonzo will get the knicks closer to the final product of the rebuild. The next 3 drafts should be used to solidify the bench and find the successors of the current starting 5. For now the knicks have Obi, knox and Quickly. If the knicks can manage to find a good back up center and a dynamic SG with the knicks 1st round and the dallas pick, the knicks can potentially have a strong team for years to come, a 10-man team deep squad.

He's doodoo this year man. I was interested in him too, but I'd wait for him to find his form again before pulling the trigger.

I think he just needs a fresh start. Maybe he thought he was next in line but the pelicans replaced Holiday with Bledsoe then they drafted Lewis Jr. it might have gotten to his head. It's interesting to see what Kenny Payne and Johnny Bryant can bring out of him.

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1/20/2021  7:53 PM
ramtour420 wrote:
Allanfan20 wrote:
KnickDanger wrote:Yeah, there is the temptation to sell high on Randle but what do you get in return? I know last year people were suggesting trading him for a #2 or even cutting him (no sense of course) but are you getting a player in his age range (approaching prime) and salary (excellent value actually). Which leaves the prospect of draft picks but unless it's a probable lottery pick why do it? And teams heading for the lottery aren't trading for Randle.

BTW, I put this on another thread but would you put Randle in a trade for KP today?

Yes, yes, yes. I don’t care how jerk-ass his brother is. I would make that trade every day. The Mavs would laugh about it before slamming the phone, obviously but the Knicks would be silly for turning that down.

Man, I really miss the drama. The tweets, the snide comments. Sometimes I wonder how is it that we are able to function as a team without Porzingises broken ass on that bench. I understand that Randle's triple doubles are not attractive to you and watching our center average 7 rebounds while playing but mostly just sitting on the bench healing from yet another injury is much better.

Heh heh.

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1/20/2021  8:25 PM
I feel like you two trades is all you can get done at the actual deadline... so a second round pick in 2678 for Frank and one in 3198 for DSJ
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1/21/2021  3:53 AM
PG spot worries me- barring a miracle and us landing Cade Cunningham in the draft (next to impossible), how exactly are we upgrading the PG spot (outside of IQ's development)? Don't see many options via FA, or via trade. I can't take another season with a non-shooting PG!

Only target PG so far rumored is Ball, who doesn't make sense shooting wise (but does passing wise). Anyone got any ideas?

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1/21/2021  4:18 AM
Currently, 15 NBA teams are either out multiple first round picks, prohibited from trading more, or have their picks "encumbered", which means they can't trade them for multiple years.

In the fall of 2017, there was an item on the league's preseason board of governors meeting agenda that called for a vote on a rule that would ban trading pick swaps to teams that already owed future first-round picks to other teams. A vote was eventually taken off the agenda for the rule.

In subsequent years, we have witnessed a surge of superstar trades including multiple first round picks and pick swaps.

Seven teams are totally locked out of the draft-pick market this season at the trade deadline with the Washington Wizards effectively making a provisional eighth.

Because so many teams have a limited ability to trade picks, it could inhibit the market for the next star who wants out.

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/261255/Surge-Of-Traded-Picks-Pick-Swaps-Could-Inhibit-Market-For-Next-Superstar-Trade

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1/21/2021  5:13 AM
smackeddog wrote:PG spot worries me- barring a miracle and us landing Cade Cunningham in the draft (next to impossible), how exactly are we upgrading the PG spot (outside of IQ's development)? Don't see many options via FA, or via trade. I can't take another season with a non-shooting PG!

Only target PG so far rumored is Ball, who doesn't make sense shooting wise (but does passing wise). Anyone got any ideas?

George Hill looks like a good stop gap option. Could be a worthwhile trade to make if Lowry/Conley dosent fall through..

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1/21/2021  7:22 AM
Please let’s refrain from even thinking of older declining players like G.Hill. If we were thinking of a half year rental I would feel differently but we shouldn’t be. We should be very focused on building
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1/21/2021  9:34 AM
Chandler wrote:Please let’s refrain from even thinking of older declining players like G.Hill. If we were thinking of a half year rental I would feel differently but we shouldn’t be. We should be very focused on building

We need to be prepared for a situation where we don’t get a good PG in the draft. The Knicks top priority must be getting a PG that can shoot. Hill is an expiring deal after this year on a friendly contract so what’s issue? I’ll never understand why we shy away from older players just because they are old, irrespective of the fact that they can still contribute.

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