Jmpasq wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Thought he was a top 3 player with different compliments for Mitch Robinson. A guy who could handle the rock shoot it from deep etc. I like Toppin but not with Robinson— I like Toppin in an open style as a 5 man. We’re not going to do that—- and unless we move Robinson( which I would not) Ithink we took the wrong guy

There were at least 4 guys I would of rather had than Toppin

Toppin was the best college player on the best college team with an above the rim NBA game to match his elite athleticism... but yeah, I am sure we are gonna miss passing on the Euro guy with his 9ppg in Europe.

I would really love to know which 4 guys you take before Obi. Get this guy a tissue

fishmike wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Thought he was a top 3 player with different compliments for Mitch Robinson. A guy who could handle the rock shoot it from deep etc. I like Toppin but not with Robinson— I like Toppin in an open style as a 5 man. We’re not going to do that—- and unless we move Robinson( which I would not) Ithink we took the wrong guy

There were at least 4 guys I would of rather had than Toppin

who? name em... this will be fun for down the road.

I suspect: Wiseman, Nesmith, Wiseman and Nesmith

Chandler wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Thought he was a top 3 player with different compliments for Mitch Robinson. A guy who could handle the rock shoot it from deep etc. I like Toppin but not with Robinson— I like Toppin in an open style as a 5 man. We’re not going to do that—- and unless we move Robinson( which I would not) Ithink we took the wrong guy

There were at least 4 guys I would of rather had than Toppin

who? name em... this will be fun for down the road.

I suspect: Wiseman, Nesmith, Wiseman and Nesmith

that was pretty funny! but i assume you're referring to Briggs

Can i remind everyone that Obi is ambidextrous going to the hoop.

we're talking Amar'e 2.0 vs. Hezonja 2.0. C'mon people there's plenty of room still on the Obi bandwagon

I mean all i can think of is Both Amare and Blake Griff, with all the super athleticism, suffer major knee issues.

You don't want to put that kind of pressure on him (minutes wise) to be the man every night like we did with KP and Amare (with a run your player to the ground coach in thibs) see D rose

Advija's game doesn't need him to jump out of the building to have an impact, and his IQ seems a bit higher than Obi

knicks1248 wrote:

Chandler wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Thought he was a top 3 player with different compliments for Mitch Robinson. A guy who could handle the rock shoot it from deep etc. I like Toppin but not with Robinson— I like Toppin in an open style as a 5 man. We’re not going to do that—- and unless we move Robinson( which I would not) Ithink we took the wrong guy

There were at least 4 guys I would of rather had than Toppin

who? name em... this will be fun for down the road.

I suspect: Wiseman, Nesmith, Wiseman and Nesmith

that was pretty funny! but i assume you're referring to Briggs

Can i remind everyone that Obi is ambidextrous going to the hoop.

we're talking Amar'e 2.0 vs. Hezonja 2.0. C'mon people there's plenty of room still on the Obi bandwagon

I mean all i can think of is Both Amare and Blake Griff, with all the super athleticism, suffer major knee issues.

You don't want to put that kind of pressure on him (minutes wise) to be the man every night like we did with KP and Amare (with a run your player to the ground coach in thibs) see D rose

Advija's game doesn't need him to jump out of the building to have an impact, and his IQ seems a bit higher than Obi

Both Stat & Griffen did not diversify their games solely relying on athleticism...they both could not shoot....with Stat only later in his career...both could not put it on the floor..Obi can....Deni is the type of pick that you make when you already have a stud player....because if you miss..particularly on an international player...ur done....folks looking at Luka and looking for 75% of him a heady player that can shoot...but Luka had been doing that since 15-16....on the world stage....Deni is playing in a league that is 50% of the ACB league that Luka and KP played...

Somestimes drafting is not over thinking it...particularly with this draft...take the best player .....not the best upside....

BigDaddyG wrote:

ekstarks94 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Chandler wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Thought he was a top 3 player with different compliments for Mitch Robinson. A guy who could handle the rock shoot it from deep etc. I like Toppin but not with Robinson— I like Toppin in an open style as a 5 man. We’re not going to do that—- and unless we move Robinson( which I would not) Ithink we took the wrong guy

There were at least 4 guys I would of rather had than Toppin

who? name em... this will be fun for down the road.

I suspect: Wiseman, Nesmith, Wiseman and Nesmith

that was pretty funny! but i assume you're referring to Briggs

Can i remind everyone that Obi is ambidextrous going to the hoop.

we're talking Amar'e 2.0 vs. Hezonja 2.0. C'mon people there's plenty of room still on the Obi bandwagon

I mean all i can think of is Both Amare and Blake Griff, with all the super athleticism, suffer major knee issues.

You don't want to put that kind of pressure on him (minutes wise) to be the man every night like we did with KP and Amare (with a run your player to the ground coach in thibs) see D rose

Advija's game doesn't need him to jump out of the building to have an impact, and his IQ seems a bit higher than Obi

Both Stat & Griffen did not diversify their games solely relying on athleticism...they both could not shoot....with Stat only later in his career...both could not put it on the floor..Obi can....Deni is the type of pick that you make when you already have a stud player....because if you miss..particularly on an international player...ur done....folks looking at Luka and looking for 75% of him a heady player that can shoot...but Luka had been doing that since 15-16....on the world stage....Deni is playing in a league that is 50% of the ACB league that Luka and KP played...

Somestimes drafting is not over thinking it...particularly with this draft...take the best player .....not the best upside....

Gotta disagree with you on one thing. Outside of the range on their J's, Blake was more skilled than Obi in every way. Blake would've been the de factor #1 pick in this last draft if he came out. People focused on the dunks, but Blake was also a good playmaker.

Thanks for this...this must have been earlier in his career because I completely forgot about him doing this...the last memory I have was KP torching him before KPs ACL....if OBI can mirror this..watch out..

ekstarks94 wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

ekstarks94 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Chandler wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Thought he was a top 3 player with different compliments for Mitch Robinson. A guy who could handle the rock shoot it from deep etc. I like Toppin but not with Robinson— I like Toppin in an open style as a 5 man. We’re not going to do that—- and unless we move Robinson( which I would not) Ithink we took the wrong guy

There were at least 4 guys I would of rather had than Toppin

who? name em... this will be fun for down the road.

I suspect: Wiseman, Nesmith, Wiseman and Nesmith

that was pretty funny! but i assume you're referring to Briggs

Can i remind everyone that Obi is ambidextrous going to the hoop.

we're talking Amar'e 2.0 vs. Hezonja 2.0. C'mon people there's plenty of room still on the Obi bandwagon

I mean all i can think of is Both Amare and Blake Griff, with all the super athleticism, suffer major knee issues.

You don't want to put that kind of pressure on him (minutes wise) to be the man every night like we did with KP and Amare (with a run your player to the ground coach in thibs) see D rose

Advija's game doesn't need him to jump out of the building to have an impact, and his IQ seems a bit higher than Obi

Both Stat & Griffen did not diversify their games solely relying on athleticism...they both could not shoot....with Stat only later in his career...both could not put it on the floor..Obi can....Deni is the type of pick that you make when you already have a stud player....because if you miss..particularly on an international player...ur done....folks looking at Luka and looking for 75% of him a heady player that can shoot...but Luka had been doing that since 15-16....on the world stage....Deni is playing in a league that is 50% of the ACB league that Luka and KP played...

Somestimes drafting is not over thinking it...particularly with this draft...take the best player .....not the best upside....

Gotta disagree with you on one thing. Outside of the range on their J's, Blake was more skilled than Obi in every way. Blake would've been the de factor #1 pick in this last draft if he came out. People focused on the dunks, but Blake was also a good playmaker.

Thanks for this...this must have been earlier in his career because I completely forgot about him doing this...the last memory I have was KP torching him before KPs ACL....if OBI can mirror this..watch out..

Toppin is a bit of a plug and play kind of guy - he hits shots from outside, makes quick decisions, he has a knack for getting himself open dunking opportunities. He's the sort of player that could take the world by storm and by surprise. A bit like how Blake Griffin just surprised and overwhelmed opponents with his fresh legs and motor.

So about age, he's really quite a late bloomer - imagine this guy. 6'2" as a junior in high school. 6'6" as an 18/19 year old "super senior" at Mt. Zion. And continuing to grow late to 6'9". Wow. It's a bit like the story of Scottie Pippen, who started college at 6'1" and grew to 6'8". It's like these guys were the gift of an NBA JAM power up.

BigDaddyG wrote:

ekstarks94 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Chandler wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Thought he was a top 3 player with different compliments for Mitch Robinson. A guy who could handle the rock shoot it from deep etc. I like Toppin but not with Robinson— I like Toppin in an open style as a 5 man. We’re not going to do that—- and unless we move Robinson( which I would not) Ithink we took the wrong guy

There were at least 4 guys I would of rather had than Toppin

who? name em... this will be fun for down the road.

I suspect: Wiseman, Nesmith, Wiseman and Nesmith

that was pretty funny! but i assume you're referring to Briggs

Can i remind everyone that Obi is ambidextrous going to the hoop.

we're talking Amar'e 2.0 vs. Hezonja 2.0. C'mon people there's plenty of room still on the Obi bandwagon

I mean all i can think of is Both Amare and Blake Griff, with all the super athleticism, suffer major knee issues.

You don't want to put that kind of pressure on him (minutes wise) to be the man every night like we did with KP and Amare (with a run your player to the ground coach in thibs) see D rose

Advija's game doesn't need him to jump out of the building to have an impact, and his IQ seems a bit higher than Obi

Both Stat & Griffen did not diversify their games solely relying on athleticism...they both could not shoot....with Stat only later in his career...both could not put it on the floor..Obi can....Deni is the type of pick that you make when you already have a stud player....because if you miss..particularly on an international player...ur done....folks looking at Luka and looking for 75% of him a heady player that can shoot...but Luka had been doing that since 15-16....on the world stage....Deni is playing in a league that is 50% of the ACB league that Luka and KP played...

Somestimes drafting is not over thinking it...particularly with this draft...take the best player .....not the best upside....

Gotta disagree with you on one thing. Outside of the range on their J's, Blake was more skilled than Obi in every way. Blake would've been the de factor #1 pick in this last draft if he came out. People focused on the dunks, but Blake was also a good playmaker.

Blake shot 10 total 3 threes in college(Obi shot 103) and didn't shoot up to 1 a game until he was 27 in the NBA. Not arguing that Obi is the better prospect. But shooting wise Obi displayed more at the same stage in games. In college Blake shot 59% from ft to Toppins 70%.

newyorknewyork wrote:

BigDaddyG wrote:

ekstarks94 wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

Chandler wrote:

smackeddog wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:Thought he was a top 3 player with different compliments for Mitch Robinson. A guy who could handle the rock shoot it from deep etc. I like Toppin but not with Robinson— I like Toppin in an open style as a 5 man. We’re not going to do that—- and unless we move Robinson( which I would not) Ithink we took the wrong guy

There were at least 4 guys I would of rather had than Toppin

who? name em... this will be fun for down the road.

I suspect: Wiseman, Nesmith, Wiseman and Nesmith

that was pretty funny! but i assume you're referring to Briggs

Can i remind everyone that Obi is ambidextrous going to the hoop.

we're talking Amar'e 2.0 vs. Hezonja 2.0. C'mon people there's plenty of room still on the Obi bandwagon

I mean all i can think of is Both Amare and Blake Griff, with all the super athleticism, suffer major knee issues.

You don't want to put that kind of pressure on him (minutes wise) to be the man every night like we did with KP and Amare (with a run your player to the ground coach in thibs) see D rose

Advija's game doesn't need him to jump out of the building to have an impact, and his IQ seems a bit higher than Obi

Both Stat & Griffen did not diversify their games solely relying on athleticism...they both could not shoot....with Stat only later in his career...both could not put it on the floor..Obi can....Deni is the type of pick that you make when you already have a stud player....because if you miss..particularly on an international player...ur done....folks looking at Luka and looking for 75% of him a heady player that can shoot...but Luka had been doing that since 15-16....on the world stage....Deni is playing in a league that is 50% of the ACB league that Luka and KP played...

Somestimes drafting is not over thinking it...particularly with this draft...take the best player .....not the best upside....

Gotta disagree with you on one thing. Outside of the range on their J's, Blake was more skilled than Obi in every way. Blake would've been the de factor #1 pick in this last draft if he came out. People focused on the dunks, but Blake was also a good playmaker.

Blake shot 10 total 3 threes in college(Obi shot 103) and didn't shoot up to 1 a game until he was 27 in the NBA. Not arguing that Obi is the better prospect. But shooting wise Obi displayed more at the same stage in games. In college Blake shot 59% from ft to Toppins 70%.