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BigDaddyG
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11/13/2020  12:16 PM
Philc1 wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
Philc1 wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
Philc1 wrote:Stay at 8 and 27. It’s a fairly deep draft. No superstars but a lot of players who can be effective and help you win games

Who do you think can do that at the 8? As mentioned, like to stick if we can get Toppin or Okongwu.

I like Vassell or Cole Anthony at 8

Liked Vassell early on. But after watching his work outs I think he will have an issue with his shooting. Think other NBA teams will come to the same conclusion and he will drop to mid teens.
No reason to get Anthony at 8. He will probably be ther at 27. Also, keep going ba k to Joe as another sleeper.

What’s your issue with Vassell’s shooting? He shot 41% from 3 in college


I also love Vassell’s long wingspan. Him, Frank and Mitch playing together will cause problems for teams trying to pass the ball


Vassell said he was just goofing around in that clip. That doesn't worry me. His inability to consistently create has me worried and that's why I have him a little lower, but I wouldn't freak out if they drafted him. He's safe. BUT I'd be happier if we nabbed Woodard at 27 than I would be if we drafted Vassell at #8. The one thing this draft does have is potential 3&D guys. Okoro and Vassell are the highest rated ones, but there will be options later in.
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Chandler
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11/13/2020  12:18 PM
HofstraBBall wrote:
Chandler wrote:in theory i get the appeal of trading back

in reality i wouldn't do it. if we were some drafting mavens i might feel otherwise, but we're not. At out slot we should be able to add a quality contributor. And while the teens have definitely results in lots of great players, the odds are different

TT should focus on a a player who will help establish an identity with the team. Hoping we don't get too cute

plus there's the near universal law: if you make draft day trades with the Celtics you lose

Might as well find out how good the new scouting system is. Also, although I agree that teen picks are hard to gauge, it is the reason I feel multiple picks are the best way to mitigate our return. Especially in a year where the draft is more uncertain than ever,

Really do think that the guys I mentuoned have a better chance of being closer to the pleasant surprise of MR than the somewhat dissapointing one of Frank and Knox. They have the same athletic quality I think may be something to focus on.

wasnt perry responsible for bagley, giles, and justin jackson-- much higher picks and stunk up the joint??

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Philc1
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11/13/2020  12:20 PM
BigDaddyG wrote:
Philc1 wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
Philc1 wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
Philc1 wrote:Stay at 8 and 27. It’s a fairly deep draft. No superstars but a lot of players who can be effective and help you win games

Who do you think can do that at the 8? As mentioned, like to stick if we can get Toppin or Okongwu.

I like Vassell or Cole Anthony at 8

Liked Vassell early on. But after watching his work outs I think he will have an issue with his shooting. Think other NBA teams will come to the same conclusion and he will drop to mid teens.
No reason to get Anthony at 8. He will probably be ther at 27. Also, keep going ba k to Joe as another sleeper.

What’s your issue with Vassell’s shooting? He shot 41% from 3 in college


I also love Vassell’s long wingspan. Him, Frank and Mitch playing together will cause problems for teams trying to pass the ball


Vassell said he was just goofing around in that clip. That doesn't worry me. His inability to consistently create has me worried and that's why I have him a little lower, but I wouldn't freak out if they drafted him. He's safe. BUT I'd be happier if we nabbed Woodard at 27 than I would be if we drafted Vassell at #8. The one thing this draft does have is potential 3&D guys. Okoro and Vassell are the highest rated ones, but there will be options later in.

I think Vassell has a higher ceiling. He’s a 6’7 SG who can shoot

HofstraBBall
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11/13/2020  12:56 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/14/2020  9:01 AM
Chandler wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
Chandler wrote:in theory i get the appeal of trading back

in reality i wouldn't do it. if we were some drafting mavens i might feel otherwise, but we're not. At out slot we should be able to add a quality contributor. And while the teens have definitely results in lots of great players, the odds are different

TT should focus on a a player who will help establish an identity with the team. Hoping we don't get too cute

plus there's the near universal law: if you make draft day trades with the Celtics you lose

Might as well find out how good the new scouting system is. Also, although I agree that teen picks are hard to gauge, it is the reason I feel multiple picks are the best way to mitigate our return. Especially in a year where the draft is more uncertain than ever,

Really do think that the guys I mentuoned have a better chance of being closer to the pleasant surprise of MR than the somewhat dissapointing one of Frank and Knox. They have the same athletic quality I think may be something to focus on.

wasnt perry responsible for bagley, giles, and justin jackson-- much higher picks and stunk up the joint??

This a different team. Ie. set of scouts, Rose. Do you really think Perry is the only one making decisions? But like I said, no better time to find out the capabilities of our NEW regime. Especially in what I feel is a draft where many will prove to "stink up the joint".

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Nalod
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11/13/2020  5:44 PM
Chandler wrote:
HofstraBBall wrote:
Chandler wrote:in theory i get the appeal of trading back

in reality i wouldn't do it. if we were some drafting mavens i might feel otherwise, but we're not. At out slot we should be able to add a quality contributor. And while the teens have definitely results in lots of great players, the odds are different

TT should focus on a a player who will help establish an identity with the team. Hoping we don't get too cute

plus there's the near universal law: if you make draft day trades with the Celtics you lose

Might as well find out how good the new scouting system is. Also, although I agree that teen picks are hard to gauge, it is the reason I feel multiple picks are the best way to mitigate our return. Especially in a year where the draft is more uncertain than ever,

Really do think that the guys I mentuoned have a better chance of being closer to the pleasant surprise of MR than the somewhat dissapointing one of Frank and Knox. They have the same athletic quality I think may be something to focus on.

wasnt perry responsible for bagley, giles, and justin jackson-- much higher picks and stunk up the joint??

No. He was assistant for like 3 months in SAC. Owner and Vlade Divac makes those calls.

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