Knixkik wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

GustavBahler wrote: Also guessing that Knox has put in the work in the offseason. Dont know if he'll be consistent enough to start for a season. But I do believe he has the talent to win the starting job.

Where? in China? If the goal is to have terrible defense and shoot sub 40 from the floor than yeah he can start

I see both side of it. I think Knox would obviously have to show major improvements but I wouldn’t rule it out.

We've seen Knox play lights out over the span of a month. We've also seen Knox play solid D at times. Make some big time stops on good players. Its about consistency. As well as better footwork.

Playing well enough to earn the starting job is one thing, keeping it is another.

Julius was shooting .462% in March in the last six games. The team started to get it.

Add FVV & Thibs & I think you have a competitive group that can in theory & healthy, aim for the last spot in the play offs. Bench obviously is a giant question mark. I'd love to keep Portis (I was maybe the only fan) and Mo Harkless, but not at their money. Frank & DSjr can compete for back up PG minutes. They're both of an age where they have to put up or head to China.

knicks1248 wrote:

franco12 wrote:Robinson
Randle
RJ
Best SG pick at 8
FVV

Julius was shooting .462% in March in the last six games. The team started to get it.

Add FVV & Thibs & I think you have a competitive group that can in theory & healthy, aim for the last spot in the play offs. Bench obviously is a giant question mark. I'd love to keep Portis (I was maybe the only fan) and Mo Harkless, but not at their money. Frank & DSjr can compete for back up PG minutes. They're both of an age where they have to put up or head to China.

DSJ/Frank have been fighting for minutes their entire knick career, and it hasn't made them better or more competitive, one of them as to go.

I don't see mitch as a starter unless you have multiple reliable 3 point shooters, and most teams are playing small ball. Mitch and Randle wont work, that has been confirmed

They've been fighting through injuries more than each other for PT. This is likely the healthiest both have been since being drafted. Looking forward to seeing what they've been working on.

Knixkik wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

franco12 wrote:Robinson
Randle
RJ
Best SG pick at 8
FVV

Julius was shooting .462% in March in the last six games. The team started to get it.

Add FVV & Thibs & I think you have a competitive group that can in theory & healthy, aim for the last spot in the play offs. Bench obviously is a giant question mark. I'd love to keep Portis (I was maybe the only fan) and Mo Harkless, but not at their money. Frank & DSjr can compete for back up PG minutes. They're both of an age where they have to put up or head to China.

DSJ/Frank have been fighting for minutes their entire knick career, and it hasn't made them better or more competitive, one of them as to go.

I don't see mitch as a starter unless you have multiple reliable 3 point shooters, and most teams are playing small ball. Mitch and Randle wont work, that has been confirmed

Mitch should be the starter (especially for Thibs) and Randle should be 6th man or traded. It's a very simple concept really, like Miami and Boston, you have a pure defensive center (Mitch), a PG who can shoot (Paul or FVV) and 3 other wings. One of the wings is RJ who can provide playmaking and rebounding. We need 2 other wings in the starting line-up.

why is Mitch better Than randle? Is it because he can blocks shots and dunk, What else does he do well?

Can he draw double teams, can he pass, can he shoot from the perimeter, does he create space. If he can't do any of those things, then he's not making his teammates better.

GustavBahler wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

franco12 wrote:Robinson
Randle
RJ
Best SG pick at 8
FVV

Julius was shooting .462% in March in the last six games. The team started to get it.

Add FVV & Thibs & I think you have a competitive group that can in theory & healthy, aim for the last spot in the play offs. Bench obviously is a giant question mark. I'd love to keep Portis (I was maybe the only fan) and Mo Harkless, but not at their money. Frank & DSjr can compete for back up PG minutes. They're both of an age where they have to put up or head to China.

DSJ/Frank have been fighting for minutes their entire knick career, and it hasn't made them better or more competitive, one of them as to go.

I don't see mitch as a starter unless you have multiple reliable 3 point shooters, and most teams are playing small ball. Mitch and Randle wont work, that has been confirmed

They've been fighting through injuries more than each other for PT. This is likely the healthiest both have been since being drafted. Looking forward to seeing what they've been working on.

They both have had a stretches of good health, and still nothing, only to end up hurt again at some point.

They need define roles where they are not looking over at the bench waiting to get pulled after a few mistakes.

knicks1248 wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

franco12 wrote:Robinson
Randle
RJ
Best SG pick at 8
FVV

Julius was shooting .462% in March in the last six games. The team started to get it.

Add FVV & Thibs & I think you have a competitive group that can in theory & healthy, aim for the last spot in the play offs. Bench obviously is a giant question mark. I'd love to keep Portis (I was maybe the only fan) and Mo Harkless, but not at their money. Frank & DSjr can compete for back up PG minutes. They're both of an age where they have to put up or head to China.

DSJ/Frank have been fighting for minutes their entire knick career, and it hasn't made them better or more competitive, one of them as to go.

I don't see mitch as a starter unless you have multiple reliable 3 point shooters, and most teams are playing small ball. Mitch and Randle wont work, that has been confirmed

Mitch should be the starter (especially for Thibs) and Randle should be 6th man or traded. It's a very simple concept really, like Miami and Boston, you have a pure defensive center (Mitch), a PG who can shoot (Paul or FVV) and 3 other wings. One of the wings is RJ who can provide playmaking and rebounding. We need 2 other wings in the starting line-up.

why is Mitch better Than randle? Is it because he can blocks shots and dunk, What else does he do well?

Can he draw double teams, can he pass, can he shoot from the perimeter, does he create space. If he can't do any of those things, then he's not making his teammates better.

Mitch’s defense is the difference. He can both protect the rim and is also fast enough to defend the perimeter. His alley oop ability is also a weapon

I’m not a Randle hater but he should be coming off the bench

knicks1248 wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

franco12 wrote:Robinson
Randle
RJ
Best SG pick at 8
FVV

Julius was shooting .462% in March in the last six games. The team started to get it.

Add FVV & Thibs & I think you have a competitive group that can in theory & healthy, aim for the last spot in the play offs. Bench obviously is a giant question mark. I'd love to keep Portis (I was maybe the only fan) and Mo Harkless, but not at their money. Frank & DSjr can compete for back up PG minutes. They're both of an age where they have to put up or head to China.

DSJ/Frank have been fighting for minutes their entire knick career, and it hasn't made them better or more competitive, one of them as to go.

I don't see mitch as a starter unless you have multiple reliable 3 point shooters, and most teams are playing small ball. Mitch and Randle wont work, that has been confirmed

Mitch should be the starter (especially for Thibs) and Randle should be 6th man or traded. It's a very simple concept really, like Miami and Boston, you have a pure defensive center (Mitch), a PG who can shoot (Paul or FVV) and 3 other wings. One of the wings is RJ who can provide playmaking and rebounding. We need 2 other wings in the starting line-up.

why is Mitch better Than randle? Is it because he can blocks shots and dunk, What else does he do well?

Can he draw double teams, can he pass, can he shoot from the perimeter, does he create space. If he can't do any of those things, then he's not making his teammates better.

He is a defensive anchor (Thibs wants a Noah-type) and has switchability on defense. He can impact winning without the ball in his hands and without scoring.

Knixkik wrote:

martin wrote:

Philc1 wrote:PG: Paul
SG: Vassell
SF: Barrett
PF: Carmelo
C: Robinson

I am about 70% there that this line up will actually happen.

PG: Paul
SG: Barrett
SF: Vassell/Okoro
PF: Carmelo
C: Robinson

Yup makes perfect sense. My biggest question mark is really at the PF position.

Same

Thibs going with the yoots. I see Randle being moved. Thibs going with the strength of the players and becoming a defensive team.

Hoping Sadiq Bey lasts to 27. Then I want the best tall shooter for 38.

knicks1248 wrote:

GustavBahler wrote:

knicks1248 wrote:

franco12 wrote:Robinson
Randle
RJ
Best SG pick at 8
FVV

Julius was shooting .462% in March in the last six games. The team started to get it.

Add FVV & Thibs & I think you have a competitive group that can in theory & healthy, aim for the last spot in the play offs. Bench obviously is a giant question mark. I'd love to keep Portis (I was maybe the only fan) and Mo Harkless, but not at their money. Frank & DSjr can compete for back up PG minutes. They're both of an age where they have to put up or head to China.

DSJ/Frank have been fighting for minutes their entire knick career, and it hasn't made them better or more competitive, one of them as to go.

I don't see mitch as a starter unless you have multiple reliable 3 point shooters, and most teams are playing small ball. Mitch and Randle wont work, that has been confirmed

They've been fighting through injuries more than each other for PT. This is likely the healthiest both have been since being drafted. Looking forward to seeing what they've been working on.

They both have had a stretches of good health, and still nothing, only to end up hurt again at some point.

They need define roles where they are not looking over at the bench waiting to get pulled after a few mistakes.

Frank hasnt been able to handle more than 20 mpg since being drafted. Recurring groin issues since before his first NBA game. Smith jr, injuries since Dallas. A few weeks here and there, a few minutes here and there isnt enough.

Its been either conditioning issues with them, or injuries. Dont believe they will ever have this much time off to get right..again. Im guessing they're both in the best condition of their respective careers.

No guarantee that this will result in both players turning the corner. The conditions though have never been better. Wrong time to give up on them. Unless some team blows the FO away with an offer.

GustavBahler wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

Jmpasq wrote:

GustavBahler wrote: Also guessing that Knox has put in the work in the offseason. Dont know if he'll be consistent enough to start for a season. But I do believe he has the talent to win the starting job.

Where? in China? If the goal is to have terrible defense and shoot sub 40 from the floor than yeah he can start

I see both side of it. I think Knox would obviously have to show major improvements but I wouldn’t rule it out.

We've seen Knox play lights out over the span of a month. We've also seen Knox play solid D at times. Make some big time stops on good players. Its about consistency. As well as better footwork.

Playing well enough to earn the starting job is one thing, keeping it is another.

Knox is too slow on D. He can’t shoot. He’s a good slasher and finisher and that’s about it