And why the hell did she turn so angry at that ice cream cone?

"Hi Russ, Stephan Bondy, NY Daily News. Is it true you're going to work with Alan Houston on 3 point shooting?"
Russ: "Who the **** is Alan Houston? Next."
"Marc Berman, NY Post. Tom Thibadeau is a defensive minded coach. How is that going to work with your game?"
Russ: "The best defense is a great offense. Fuck Thibs. Next."

I can do this all day, Nalod.

jrodmc wrote:Is this a click-bait thread? Westbrook with the NYC media? That would be hilarious.

And why the hell did she turn so angry at that ice cream cone?

"Hi Russ, Stephan Bondy, NY Daily News. Is it true you're going to work with Alan Houston on 3 point shooting?"
Russ: "Who the **** is Alan Houston? Next."
"Marc Berman, NY Post. Tom Thibadeau is a defensive minded coach. How is that going to work with your game?"
Russ: "The best defense is a great offense. Fuck Thibs. Next."

Now that you put it that way, I change my mind. Leon must do everything in his power to make this trade happen! The Daniel House/ Westbrook off the court roadhouse show has the potential to be epic! Martin, watch your girl Rebecca when Danny is in the 🏠.

TripleThreat wrote:

jrodmc wrote:Is this a click-bait thread?

Actually, no it's not.

If it was up to me, I'd do it. RWB has his limitations, none of them are a big secret. His max deal will scale to any drop in the cap. The Knicks would lose draft position as a first round playoff exit/treadmill team, but I see that as OK too. He's still a future HOFer and an All Star.

He always plays hard. If anyone tries to dog it for effort, he'll get in their face. He's a low BBIQ player but has a killer instinct. His jump shot might be toast forever at this point. He's a stat padder and he'll hurt you on defense. He's got a bulldog mentality with the press, but so what. The NY press goes hard on players, they can handle him going hard back at them.

The Knicks can still try to build much like the Heat did with Bam and Herro (middle round picks). A big cap hit with one player opens up roster spots to try flier type prospects. Also it negates the need to sign the Gibson/Portis players of the world to hit the cap floor. Having a lead player established would also allow the rest of the roster to fill out into specific roles.

This is still a very good player. He is on the decline and some recency bias will work against him, but MRob and a late first plus a Frank N dump isn't that horrible a price to pay for an All Star. Houston would almost certainly throw in House and he could be as effective as anyone the Knicks took in the late first round this year.

Westbrook/Randle/RJ Barrett, barring injuries, I can see that getting that last playoff slot in the East.

I think part of the problem is the idea that you should never trade young players on rookie deals and draft picks. Which is true 90 percent of the time. But like anything, it depends on the context of your situation. Billy Beane covered this heavily when he traded for Johnny Damon and then later for Jon Lester - Assets exist to be used given opportunity.

Given the relative options with the open cap space and looking at the market conditions with the pandemic, I think this is the best market based move given the time and place.

Why don't we go after Harden.

Randle, RJ, Knox, and the Maverick's picks for Harden.

TripleThreat wrote:

jrodmc wrote:Is this a click-bait thread?

Actually, no it's not.

If it was up to me, I'd do it. RWB has his limitations, none of them are a big secret. His max deal will scale to any drop in the cap. The Knicks would lose draft position as a first round playoff exit/treadmill team, but I see that as OK too. He's still a future HOFer and an All Star.

He always plays hard. If anyone tries to dog it for effort, he'll get in their face. He's a low BBIQ player but has a killer instinct. His jump shot might be toast forever at this point. He's a stat padder and he'll hurt you on defense.

Expound on "playing hard" and "hurting you on defense" and "getting in their face for dogging it". The mofo wouldn't even bother to do simple screen and rolls in OKC.
I get it, he's an offensive machine with only one setting, attack mode. Entertaining to watch, not so entertaining to listen to. Apparently even less fun to coach. You ready to say goodbye to Thibs because you want the 8th seed?

He also comes off as a legit form of locker room cancer.

I don't get your logic at times. You'll piss all over DWade cause the a-hole never learned to take a three pointer, but you want to trade for an end-of-life head case who apparently can't BB think his way out of a wet paper bag.

jrodmc wrote:

Nalod wrote:

jrodmc wrote:Yeah, especially after dragging the franchise to the playoffs for a few years... with misfit toys and folks 5 minutes from retirement.

I can do this all day, Nalod.

What’s are you talking about? Its at least 3 years and running!!!!
I didn’t even spell his name and you pop out like “Beetlejuice”!

A thread about a trade for no-D empty stat filler and you still come toddling in with your "rainman-lite" Moobie reference. Classic.
Wapner's on!

Wait, a no-D empty stat filler player with a max contract? I’m confused. Who are we talking about?

jrodmc wrote:

Nalod wrote:

jrodmc wrote:

Nalod wrote:

jrodmc wrote:Yeah, especially after dragging the franchise to the playoffs for a few years... with misfit toys and folks 5 minutes from retirement.

I can do this all day, Nalod.

What’s are you talking about? Its at least 3 years and running!!!!
I didn’t even spell his name and you pop out like “Beetlejuice”!

A thread about a trade for no-D empty stat filler and you still come toddling in with your "rainman-lite" Moobie reference. Classic.
Wapner's on!

Wait, a no-D empty stat filler player with a max contract? I’m confused. Who are we talking about?

Wake up, whoever you are talking about is only making 2 mil a year! And I think you're thinking about the guy who dove into folding chairs.

TripleThreat wrote:

franco12 wrote:This is a definitional starphuch move - over estimating our talent, believing a trade will make a huge impact and turn us into something we're not.

It's fair point. And for 28 other teams, Westbrook would be a horrible fit.

But this would be a move understanding he's not going to lead you to a championship. He has flaws and he clearly wasn't a fit for Houston ( even Morey didn't really want the guy) but on a team where he's the sole focal point with no real pressure to drag his team deep in the playoffs, he can produce.

If Thibs can manage early Derrick Rose (one player carrying the offense), then he can manage Westbrook.

If we feel that all that is needed is a next level PG, would it not be a better idea to go with an option that costs much less and does not sacrifice draft assets?

1. Van Vleet.
2. Conley (PO)(Good and adds culture mentoring)
3. Goran Dragic (No. 3 scoring PG in the playoffs. Ahead of Russ)

Westbrook in OKC with Adams and George barely did what you think he can come here and do. Make the playoffs only to lose in 1st round. And that was a couple of years and better knees ago. Maybe the plan should be to invest in younger assets that can be combined, in time, with a positive draft mix? However, do agree that it all depends on the direction the new FO takes. Fear that with Thibs and Rose hired, Knicks may go the starphuck rout.

If the knicks do this trade it should be at a reasonable price. You give up everything for a player that makes you a contender. You give up something to make your team more pleasing to the eyes. It seems like in trades its all about the talent, i hope the contract of the player should have a ton of weight as well. Not only does houston get younger players and a draft pick, taking off westbrook's monster contract should have alot of value in itself. This will give houston financial flexibility. If it will cost us peanuts, sure lets get westbrook otherwise i would rather stick to the slow rebuild.